Maybe the 75 is way too generous then?  Hmm...

On 2/14/10, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote:
> And you would be one of those customers I'd accommodate.  Your needs are way
> above average.  I do have some techies on my network and I work with them.
> Most of them are happy if their Xboxes work well.
>
> I am of the opinion the entire human gene pool needs a little chlorine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>
> Surprised that 20 connections works for you.  I hit 75 with just my laptop
> open - just simply SSH, Winbox, bg services like Dropbox and Whatpulse then
> my browsing habits which include many many tabs in 2-3 browsers.
>
> I typically see 5-15 when a user requests a webpage.
>
> If it works it works, if your customers are happy that's well above what
> anyone can ask for.  90% is outstanding.  Try pleasing 90% of your family
> for dinner plans, where to meet for Christmas, etc.  These people are in a
> similar gene pool, too!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
> that counts."
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, yeah, 20 connections.  If they were shorter duration, I'd allow
> more.
>> Most software is polite enough to recognize the limitations and adapt.
>>
>> I've never set mine higher than 20 globally, and adjust by peer if they
> ask
>> me.
>>
>> What is the maximum thread count you've ever seen on a web page opening?
>>  If
>> I can make web pages load real fast, and let grandma upload her pictures
> to
>> the grandkids and get her email, I've made 90% of my customers extremely
>> happy.  The other 10% will have to adapt or live with it.  I guess by
>> nature
>> of being rural broadband and wireless, I've engineered for the bursty
>> activity to rule.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:30 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>>
>> Only 20 connections?  I've found 75 to be a good number (Butch put that in
>> place ages ago and I've been the only person in 3 years to get up to
> that).
>>
>> I'm looking at an SM now from a customer that called in this
>> morning...they're using 43 connections.  It's one (wireless) laptop on a
>> Linksys into the SM.  Each connection is port 80 or 443 except one - 4500
>> (Cisco VP?)
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
>> that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote:
>>
>> > They can do what they want, with the following caveats:
>> >
>> > They don't open more than 20 connections.
>> >
>> > The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if
>> > the
>> > thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed.
>> >
>> > I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the
>> pipe
>> > at the peril of others.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> > Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Cc: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
>> >
>> > I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough*
>> >
>> > But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting
>> > other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads
>> > so they don't piss off thier neighbors.
>> >
>> > My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting
>> > so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house...
>> > Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading
>> > movies etc.
>> >
>> > He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the
>> > group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group!  (whoops! We sure
>> > felt bad)
>> >
>> > ryan
>> >
>> > On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer
>> > > demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I
>> > > being over
>> > > zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them?
>> > > -RickG
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