Have you run through the numbers to see if the $15.00 is a sustainable model? It seems like that is below cost or their break-even is years out. If that is the case, they will run out of cash at some point or customers will get terrible service when problems come up because the DSL company can't afford to hire anyone. It will hurt you for now but if you look at the numbers and see it isn't sustainable, I wouldn't worry too much.
Right now though, I would buckle down and run a campaign with all employees and any marketing mean you have to take care of customers! If you take care of your customers, it will be very tough for the competition to pick them up for a cheaper price. Or, it will at least delay the process long enough for the DSL provider to realize they can't sustain those prices... If you find out it is sustainable, then look at possibly upgrading your network or doing other revenue generating ideas that the DSL provider isn't. Upgrading the network is a long process and very costly though. I would make VERY sure that the DSL provider can keep that $15.00 forever before doing anything with infrastructure. -Jeff "There is a difference" -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL And, interestingly enough, the digital cable boxes that they have been deploying lately have an integrated Docsis 3 modem......... Inactive of course. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL Time Warner is a nightmare for a number of reasons... They are still running docsis 2 for goodness sake. While Docsis 2 was a great step forward over 1 - running @ 6.4MHz - allowing for some pretty interesting speeds... Docsis 3 is a huge step forward however - and would be a great deal for Time Warner to put into place... In short - Docsis 2 only allows support for 1 channel - thus a throughput of 30.72Mbit/s - where as Docsis 3 allows for multiple channels - and thus allows for each channel to push roughly 38mbps - so - # of channels x 30Mbit/s is absolutely awesome Not sure why they are not pushing this - ... In short - with 4 downstream and 4 upstream channels - Docsis 3 gives 122.88 Mbit/s with 8 channels down and 4 upstream - Docsis 3 gives 343Mbit/s down and 122.88 up Now if Comcast can do it - why cant Time Warner? On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Interesting that Time Warner bursts the residential accounts, their > Turbo > service started out pretty consistent about 6 months ago with always > being > 20+mbps. Now its "flakey" at best. One minute you run a speed test > and its > 22mbps, next test its 7mbps, all over the board now. > > Kurt Fankhauser > WAVELINC > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > 419-562-6405 > www.wavelinc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL > > They must. Not just wireless either. My Time Warner Tech says they > burst all residential accounts. > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > <k...@wavelinc.com> wrote: >> I think most of the WISPS that offer 6+ mbps services are >> "bursting" for >> like the first 30 seconds, then they fall back to something like >> 1.5mbps. >> >> I asked myself the same question until I started to think about it, >> they > are >> bursting, I'm sure of it... >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of MDK >> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:31 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >> >> Yes, they can, but only a few clients per access point. You >> cannot do it >> with 30 clients on an 11A ap. You can if only 2-4 clients are ever >> busy > at >> the same time. But I'm seeing sustained 2mbit transfers for HOURS >> to >> around 20% of my clients. >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:39 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >> >>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>> >>>> If so, with what equipment? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>> Are you delivering that wireless? >>>>> >>>>> mc >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> That's what we did. $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/ >>>>>> mo gets >>>>>> you >>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps. >>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed. A lot of >>>>>> people >>>>>> really >>>>>> like that too. >>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really >>>>>>> do > have >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars. 35 >>>>>>> Bux for > a >>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer >>>>>>> a 300K >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but >>>>>>> you can't >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> way >>>>>>> outside of normal pricing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering >>>>>>> something > like >>>>>>> a 7 >>>>>>> meg service. Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. >>>>>>> Not the >>>>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 >>>>>>> meg be > in >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> area? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM >>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage >>>>>>>> area and >>>>>>>> mailed >>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it >>>>>>>> being a >>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it >>>>>>>> they will >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways >>>>>>>> we are >>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k wireless >>>>>>>> service >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to retain > these >>>>>>>> customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer >>>>>>>> them a >>>>>>>> lower >>>>>>>> price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been >>>>>>>> using it >>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>> month before they cancel ours. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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