Negotiate directly with your doctor or the hospital. I've been cash pay for
years. About a year and a half ago, my then 2 year old got outside
un-noticed and fell into our pool. He was at the bottom when we found him
and my wife, being a trained lifegaurd, was able to perform cpr and get his
pulse and breath back. That combined with the cold temperature of the water
(early december), and the grace of God left him with no brain damage or
permanent problems. Our trip to the ermergency room plus overnight stay in
the hospital was more than $12,000. I negotiated with the hospital, the
doctors, and the ambulance company (all different bills) to get my bill down
to less than $5000. It took about 1 hour of my time. Had I had insurance, I
would have had to pay the full $5000 or $10000 deductable. So in this case
it worked out for me. My family is extrememly healthy. Our kids go to the
doctor maybe once a year and I can't remember the last time I saw a doctor.
My wife just had arthoscopic surgurery on knee in the spring and agian,
paying cash, I walked away with about a 50% dicount. As we get older, I'll
probably consider getting insurance as age typically means more trips to the
doc. and on average it will become cheaper to pay the insurance bills than
to fund it in cash. I don't know what age that will be, but I'll keep you
guys posted...

Cameron

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:02 AM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How do you negotiate that? I've tried and they same we pay their
> standard rate. After moving back to health insurance, we always see a
> discount, especially on "in network" doctors.
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Blake Bowers <bbow...@mozarks.com>
> wrote:
> > We are cash pay.   Regular DR visits are half of what the
> > quoted rate is.
> >
> > Hospital is pretty much the same way.
> >
> >
> > Don't take your organs to heaven,
> > heaven knows we need them down here!
> > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappydsl.net>
> > To: <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Health Insurance
> >
> >
> >> That is very interesting... it is the first time I am hearing as such...
> >> Our experience has been on the contrary... Without the insurance
> >> company's pre-netogitated discounts, it is impossible to get a
> >> reasonable bill..
> >> more like.. They stick to you as a cash paying customer..
> >>
> >> Faisal Imtiaz
> >> Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/30/2010 9:20 PM, Roger Howard wrote:
> >>> I had a friend who had a triple heart bypass. They gave him the bill
> >>> for loadsa money, assuming he would pay it over a long period of time.
> >>> When he said he was paying cash outright, it cost a tiny fraction of
> >>> the amount the bill was for.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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