What frequency were you using?  Was it a keyboard mode that started
calling on top of you, or a "modem" mode?  Hard to believe someone
with a keyboard mode and a waterfall display would start over top of
you, although there are jerks everywhere.

Jim
WA0LYK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> For me, the proven offenders can be ATTENDED stations.
> 
> The past week I was linked to a Winlink station on 40 meters when 
> somebody started calling on top of us.
>  
> I turned on  my linear, and he kept on calling. Three options to be 
> heard: my correspondent,
> me, and me and my half gallon linear. And he / she kept on calling  on 
> top...I could not see who was,
> I could not monitor the failed attempts while linked.
> 
> I did not lose my link even when an ALE 141A station started calling 
> also on top of the ongoing QSO.
> 
> Something that has been spoken about very little...QRM from other
clients.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jose, CO2JA
> 
> Roger J. Buffington escribió:
> 
> >  Dave AA6YQ wrote:
> > > No one is beating on Pactor. The objects of mass disgust are
> > > unattended stations that transmit without listening, thereby QRMing
> > >  other stations. Many of these happen to use Pactor III, but that's
> > > no fault of Pactor III. As I've said here before, we don't ban cars
> > >  because some people drive drunk; neither should we ban Pactor
> > > because some arrogant and inconsiderate hams operate and use
> > > unattended Pactor stations without busy frequency detectors.
> > >
> > > John, do you really characterize the innovation that's been driving
> > >  the development of new digital modes as "madness"? Do you really
> > > think that the explosion of soundcard digital mode users is "the
> > > problem". You seem to be saying "turn the clock back 10 or 15 years
> > >  and keep it there".
> >
> >  I find John's position to be incomprehensible, but that's OK I guess.
> >  And you are right.  No one has an objection to Pactor so long as it
> >  is Pactor operated in a courteous fashion.  There is an interesting
> >  question about Pactor 2 and 3, which is--are these open-documented
> >  modes such that identification in these modes is legal?  SCS claims
> >  that these are proprietary modes to which they hold copyrights.  I
> >  don't know the answer to the foregoing question; I'm just asking.
> >  Put simply, if it takes ownership of a special modem (SCS modem) to
> >  decode the ID, is the ID legal?
> >
> >  Pactor is dead as an ordinary QSO mode, at least here in North
> >  America. I have received emails from Europe which indicate that it is
> >  as dead as Julius Caesar as a QSO mode in Europe as well.  When you
> >  visit the SCS website, it is apparent that Pactor is primarily aimed
> >  at non-ham-operators including boaters and RVers, and commercial
> >  users. As far as amateur radio goes, it is Finis Pactor.
> >
> >  Thank goodness for Peter Martinez and other ham radio Greats who have
> >  made the soundcard modes what they are today--powerful digital modes
> >  within the reach of most ham operators worldwide.
> >
> >  de Roger W6VZV
> >
> 
> 
> 
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