Pronounced “eks table” I presume, and not “cross table” or “times table”? The 
Java package prefix would be org.apache.xtable, not x_table.

(It’s good to check. I’m still traumatized whenever I have to say “PostgreSQL” 
out loud.)

Julian

> On Dec 13, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jesus
> 
> Yes, we first have to trigger the vote to accept XTable into the
> incubator. As soon as the vote pass (hopefully), we have to trigger
> the name search.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:06 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
>> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks JB. Based on the guidelines described here [1], I was going to run
>> the name search process for XTable after the project is accepted for
>> incubation, but before we start to request resources.
>> 
>> -Jesús
>> 
>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#startsearch
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 2:02 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Jesus
>>> 
>>> XTable sounds good but we need a name search anyway to be sure it's
>>> suitable.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
>>> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've updated the proposal with the new name: XTable. You can review it
>>>> here:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/XTable+Proposal
>>>> (please also see _Project Name_ subsection)
>>>> 
>>>> We hope this change addresses the concern that was raised during this
>>>> discussion, helping to convey a message of neutrality to anyone
>>> interested
>>>> in contributing to the project.
>>>> 
>>>> We look forward to hearing from you soon. If there are no further
>>> concerns,
>>>> we would love to move forward with the VOTE as soon as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> -Jesús
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:09 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <
>>>> jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Julian. I was mainly considering the code, but, as you
>>> mentioned,
>>>>> it's probably not the primary concern. The current proposal aligns with
>>>>> your feedback: The project will go through the vote (and hopefully be
>>>>> accepted into the incubator) using the new name, so all the infra and
>>>>> project setup can be done (hopefully) only once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jesús
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:29 PM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Much easier to change the name before incubation. It’s not so much
>>> code
>>>>>> as all the infrastructure (mailing lists, git repos, web servers, svn
>>>>>> files, …) that goes along with a podling. It’s a lot of work for
>>> INFRA and
>>>>>> for the PPMC/champion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, branding. Calcite entered incubation as ‘Optiq’ and then
>>> renamed,
>>>>>> but not before it had appeared in a few conference talks; people are
>>> still
>>>>>> asking me ‘What happened to Optiq?'
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <
>>>>>> jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who expressed support and offered help. It's
>>> great to
>>>>>>> see that the project's mission resonates with so many different
>>> people.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jacques, we acknowledge your concern about the project name. We are
>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> on selecting a new name for ASF incubation that avoids confusion
>>> with
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> specific corporation or product in the space. Currently we are doing
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> due diligence to minimize the risk of having to change it again
>>> during
>>>>>>> incubation; we'll update the proposal with the new name soon and
>>> share
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> in this thread.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regarding the name-changing process and your concerns about it,
>>> we're
>>>>>>> looking for advice based on past experiences. Specifically, we're
>>>>>>> considering whether it's better to change the project's name before
>>>>>> pushing
>>>>>>> the code to the ASF, or if it's more practical to push the code to
>>> the
>>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>> repository first and then proceed with the name change. Any
>>> insights or
>>>>>>> guidance on whether one option is better than the other based on
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>> instances would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jesús
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:43 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course, it's a big +1 one for me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The purpose is interesting, creating "connection" with other Apache
>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>> Happy to be a mentor on this proposal and contribute to the
>>> project :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:23 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
>>>>>>>> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator -
>>> OneTable.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> OneTable[1] is an omni-directional converter for table formats
>>> that
>>>>>>>> facilitates interoperability across data processing systems and
>>> query
>>>>>>>> engines. Currently, OneTable supports widely adopted open-source
>>> table
>>>>>>>> formats such as Apache Hudi, Apache Iceberg, and Delta Lake.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here is the proposal -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OneTable+Proposal
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the
>>>>>>>> project through the incubator with Hitesh Shah [hit...@apache.org
>>> ],
>>>>>>>> Stamatis Zampetakis [zabe...@apache.org], and Jean-Baptiste
>>> Onofré [
>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We are looking forward to your feedback!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Jesús
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/onetable-io/onetable
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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