I appreciate the name update. That addresses my concern there. Thanks for the quick update!
If only all namings I've been involved in were that quick :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 11:49 AM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > The package would be xtable. > As for the pronunciation, I was pronouncing it as "eks table"... But it's > not something that has been discussed, I assume we are leaving it to the > interpretation of the reader for the time being :) > > -Jesús > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:54 AM Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Pronounced “eks table” I presume, and not “cross table” or “times table”? > > The Java package prefix would be org.apache.xtable, not x_table. > > > > (It’s good to check. I’m still traumatized whenever I have to say > > “PostgreSQL” out loud.) > > > > Julian > > > > > On Dec 13, 2023, at 7:13 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Jesus > > > > > > Yes, we first have to trigger the vote to accept XTable into the > > > incubator. As soon as the vote pass (hopefully), we have to trigger > > > the name search. > > > > > > Regards > > > JB > > > > > >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:06 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez > > >> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> Thanks JB. Based on the guidelines described here [1], I was going to > > run > > >> the name search process for XTable after the project is accepted for > > >> incubation, but before we start to request resources. > > >> > > >> -Jesús > > >> > > >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#startsearch > > >> > > >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 2:02 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thanks Jesus > > >>> > > >>> XTable sounds good but we need a name search anyway to be sure it's > > >>> suitable. > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> JB > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez > > >>> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I've updated the proposal with the new name: XTable. You can review > it > > >>>> here: > > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/XTable+Proposal > > >>>> (please also see _Project Name_ subsection) > > >>>> > > >>>> We hope this change addresses the concern that was raised during > this > > >>>> discussion, helping to convey a message of neutrality to anyone > > >>> interested > > >>>> in contributing to the project. > > >>>> > > >>>> We look forward to hearing from you soon. If there are no further > > >>> concerns, > > >>>> we would love to move forward with the VOTE as soon as possible. > > >>>> > > >>>> -Jesús > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:09 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez < > > >>>> jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thanks Julian. I was mainly considering the code, but, as you > > >>> mentioned, > > >>>>> it's probably not the primary concern. The current proposal aligns > > with > > >>>>> your feedback: The project will go through the vote (and hopefully > be > > >>>>> accepted into the incubator) using the new name, so all the infra > and > > >>>>> project setup can be done (hopefully) only once. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -Jesús > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:29 PM Julian Hyde < > jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Much easier to change the name before incubation. It’s not so much > > >>> code > > >>>>>> as all the infrastructure (mailing lists, git repos, web servers, > > svn > > >>>>>> files, …) that goes along with a podling. It’s a lot of work for > > >>> INFRA and > > >>>>>> for the PPMC/champion. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Also, branding. Calcite entered incubation as ‘Optiq’ and then > > >>> renamed, > > >>>>>> but not before it had appeared in a few conference talks; people > are > > >>> still > > >>>>>> asking me ‘What happened to Optiq?' > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Julian > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Jesus Camacho Rodriguez < > > >>>>>> jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who expressed support and offered help. It's > > >>> great to > > >>>>>>> see that the project's mission resonates with so many different > > >>> people. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Jacques, we acknowledge your concern about the project name. We > are > > >>>>>> working > > >>>>>>> on selecting a new name for ASF incubation that avoids confusion > > >>> with > > >>>>>> any > > >>>>>>> specific corporation or product in the space. Currently we are > > doing > > >>>>>> some > > >>>>>>> due diligence to minimize the risk of having to change it again > > >>> during > > >>>>>>> incubation; we'll update the proposal with the new name soon and > > >>> share > > >>>>>> it > > >>>>>>> in this thread. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Regarding the name-changing process and your concerns about it, > > >>> we're > > >>>>>>> looking for advice based on past experiences. Specifically, we're > > >>>>>>> considering whether it's better to change the project's name > before > > >>>>>> pushing > > >>>>>>> the code to the ASF, or if it's more practical to push the code > to > > >>> the > > >>>>>> ASF > > >>>>>>> repository first and then proceed with the name change. Any > > >>> insights or > > >>>>>>> guidance on whether one option is better than the other based on > > >>>>>> previous > > >>>>>>> instances would be appreciated. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>> Jesús > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:43 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > > >>>>>> jbono...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Of course, it's a big +1 one for me. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> The purpose is interesting, creating "connection" with other > > Apache > > >>>>>>>> projects. > > >>>>>>>> Happy to be a mentor on this proposal and contribute to the > > >>> project :) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks ! > > >>>>>>>> Regards > > >>>>>>>> JB > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:23 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez > > >>>>>>>> <jcama...@apache.org> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi All, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - > > >>> OneTable. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> OneTable[1] is an omni-directional converter for table formats > > >>> that > > >>>>>>>> facilitates interoperability across data processing systems and > > >>> query > > >>>>>>>> engines. Currently, OneTable supports widely adopted open-source > > >>> table > > >>>>>>>> formats such as Apache Hudi, Apache Iceberg, and Delta Lake. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Here is the proposal - > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/OneTable+Proposal > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help > > the > > >>>>>>>> project through the incubator with Hitesh Shah [ > hit...@apache.org > > >>> ], > > >>>>>>>> Stamatis Zampetakis [zabe...@apache.org], and Jean-Baptiste > > >>> Onofré [ > > >>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org]. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> We are looking forward to your feedback! > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>>> Jesús > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/onetable-io/onetable > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
