On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:45:44 -0800, Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[many reasonable comments deleted]
I was just commenting
on the Guardians stance and that he disbanded the community rather than obey
the dictates of a government that fit his criteria as legitimate if heinous.
Maybe
Dear Gilberto,
You wrote: If the Nazis asked him where the German Bahais
were, he could have just said
no, I'll never turn them over. and that would have been
disobedience. But if he disbanded the Bahais that means he
could honestly say that the community didn't officially
exist.
The Nazis
Hi David from Down Under!
Here are a few quotes that may be relevant to your question on
personal viewing censorship:
Thine eye is My trust, suffer not the dust of vain desires to
becloud its luster. Thine ear is a sign of My bounty, let not
the tumult of unseemly motives turn it away from My
Iskandar wrote:
Also, I'd think, it's worthwhile for us Baha'is to ponder, reflect, and
think deeply about the various possible implications of paragraph 88 of
Baha'u'llah's Most Holy Book Kitab-i-Aqdas.
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KA/ka-6.html
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I thoroughly agree! As for the
In a message dated 2/10/2005 10:21:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not know howeverwhere the fine line is. We sometimes forget how powerful spiritual virtues canbe, how much influence they have on the hearts andsoul of human beings. And that the Bahai faith
Hitler
was never elected Chancellor; in Germanys
last truly democratic election, he pulled 37% of the vote, which means
that 63%
of voters opted for various other parties.
A
government can be legally constituted with 37% or 44% of the vote if
that's a
majority. Look at us
Gilberto,
Sorry this is late. Yesterday was the 1st of Muharram. Happy New Year!
Rich
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Dear Rich,
1st and 2nd of Muharram are very important for Baha'is too. Birthday of the
Bab is on 1st of Muharram and the Birthday of Baha'u'llah on 2nd of Muharram
based on lunar calendar. Baha'is in whole Middle East celebrate these 2 days
which are accounted as one in the sight of God. Happy
In a message dated 2/11/2005 9:46:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A government can be legally constituted with 37% or 44% of the vote if that's a majority. Look at us south of your border.
Wrong terms! A majority is more than 50%. A PLURALITY is the most votes received
In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:54:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe I misunderstood the example from earlier. I thought the Guardianhad disbanded the community so that he wouldn't be disobeying. If theNazis asked him where the German Bahais were, he could have just
I've often wondered what might be considered okay and not okay to watch as a
Baha'i as far as TV and movies go. There is a lot of sex and violence in TV
and movies. I have two parents with quite opposing views of what is okay
and what isn't. One is very conservative and doesn't like me going
At 23:26 -0500 2/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/11/2005 9:46:34 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A government can be legally constituted with 37% or 44% of the vote
if that's a majority. Look at us south of your border.
Wrong terms! A majority is more
David,
At 10:32 PM 2/11/2005, you wrote:
I've often wondered what might be considered okay and not okay to watch as a
Baha'i as far as TV and movies go. There is a lot of sex and violence in TV
and movies. I have two parents with quite opposing views of what is okay and
what isn't.
I think
David Friedman wrote:
I've often wondered what might be considered okay and not okay to watch as a
Baha'i as far as TV and movies go...
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This is an intriguing question. Personally, I very rarely watch TV. Just
lately I've spent a few evenings watching network programs, and I must say
that
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:30:04 -0900, Sandra Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Gilberto,
You wrote: If the Nazis asked him where the German Bahais
were, he could have just said
no, I'll never turn them over. and that would have been
disobedience. But if he disbanded the Bahais that
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:51:04 -0800, Richard H. Gravelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone give an explanation as to why Yusuf Ali has translated whatever
Arabic words Sale and Rodwell translated as unjust violence as trespasses
against truth and reason.
I'm not sure. I guess I would chalk
My apologies for having misspelled your name Gilberto. I do have one
specific concern about Yusuf Ali's translation. It appears that he uses
reason as a standard. How does a Muslim understand reason?
Richard.
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Thank you for the notice. I was not previously aware.
Neither Sale nor Rodwell were Baha'is. I was not seeking to make a
comparison between Baha'i and Muslim perspectives.
Richard.
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Perhaps it was not Freudian. It was, nevertheless, a telling slip.
Richard.
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Subject: Re: Sura VII Al Araf v. 33
Oops! Hopefully not a Freudian
Hi, Richard,
At 12:43 PM 2/12/2005, you wrote:
Neither Sale nor Rodwell were Baha'is. I was not seeking to make a
comparison between Baha'i and Muslim perspectives.
Yes. I was just reminding all the list members about the decision.
With regards, Mark A. Foster http://markfoster.net
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:31:02 -0800, Richard H. Gravelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies for having misspelled your name Gilberto. I do have one
specific concern about Yusuf Ali's translation. It appears that he uses
reason as a standard. How does a Muslim understand reason?
I don't
Thank you. I do appreciate the warning.
Richard.
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Sura VII Al Araf v. 33
Hi, Richard,
At 12:43 PM 2/12/2005, you wrote:
Neither
Dear Rich,
I, too, remember our meeting fondly and
likewise hope that this finds you and your family well.
Let me add as a prefatory note that Im
sure some people are wondering about why we are discussing this in such detail
on Bahai Studies. However, I think it is important to get
Today is the 3rd of Muharram 1426 of the Islam calendar. In seven days, or the 10th of Muharram, the anniversary of the martyrdom of the Imam Husayn will be observed. As you all know, Bahá'u'lláhrevealed a Tablet of Visitation in honor ofthe Imam Husayn. In memory of the Imam Husaynand his
In a message dated 2/12/2005 4:04:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Id be curious to know how many of the men went into the German Wehrmacht, which was the one place a person could be beyond the reach of the Gestapo, the SA or the SS.
Well, it was not entirely a safe
Dear Scott,
Reichsmordwoche (!!!)
Wow I havent heard that term for years i.e. since the
death of my father who lived in Berlin
at the time as a lawyer. You realise, of course, that it was a sarcastic term
and implied criticism of the Fuehrer and the SS and using it in the wrong
I'm not objecting to the direction the conversation is taking but I'm
curious what the limits are in terms of this new (temporary?) guidline
restricting the subject matter?
Peace
Gilberto
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pharaoh is just a leaf on a burning bush
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Hi,
Just to clarify, I am not engaging in, or attempting to engage in, a Muslim-Baha'i dialogue. Baha'u'llah wrote a Tablet of Visitation for Imam Husayn, to be read on the commemoration of his martyrdom. This Tablet is part of the Baha'i Holy Text.
With regards.
Gilberto Simpson [EMAIL
Gilberto,
At 08:33 PM 2/12/2005, you wrote:
I'm not objecting to the direction the conversation is taking but I'm curious
what the limits are in terms of this new (temporary?) guidline restricting
the subject matter?
A lot of people complained to Susan and I over the lengthy and often
Dear FriendsAny thoughts on the following two quotations would be much
appreciated.
regards, Firouz
"In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a
knowledge which, when applied, will largely, though not wholly, eliminate
fear. This knowledge, however, should be taught
In a message dated 2/12/2005 6:47:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To be clear: the SA (Sturmabteiling) per se did not end in the Night of the Long Knives. Lutze was its next leader. What ended was the SA as the Nazis left, i.e. truly socialist wing, those, who like Roehm
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:37:59 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto,
At 08:33 PM 2/12/2005, you wrote:
I'm not objecting to the direction the conversation is taking but I'm
curious what the limits are in terms of this new (temporary?) guidline
restricting the subject
What new (temporary?) guideline?
Gilberto Simpson wrote:
I'm not objecting to the direction the conversation is taking but I'm
curious what the limits are in terms of this new (temporary?) guidline
restricting the subject matter?
Peace
Gilberto
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