[Cooker] Problem copying folders with Konqueror
Hi, I don't know if this is a Mandrake problem or a KDE problem, but if you try to drag a directory from one directory to another, it thinks they're the same and refuses, saying you're copying it onto itself. Example, if I were to try to drag the directory /home/meyerv/.kde2/share/apps/kmail to /home/meyerv/.kde/share/apps (notice .kde2 is NOT .kde) it complains the source and destination are the same. Has anybody else noticed this? V.
[Cooker] wireless device drivers
Is anybody playing with any of the device drivers for wireless cards that are not currently in cooker? ie madwifi? I have THREE 802.11b/g cards with three different chips, none of which are suppored currently, but all of them have after-market project open source drivers. Which ones work? which ones are not ready for prime time yet? I'm still on a laptop that doesn't have enough disk space left to load all the kernel sources and stuff necessary to build a driver, but if anyone has built and tested these, would it make sense to package them in a separate packege for testing? Thanks, V.
[Cooker] menus in kde
Hi I lost most of my menus in kde after upgrading to cooker some weeks ago. Is there a way I can reinstall default menus? Which program would it be? best regards keld
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 04:56:07AM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6 initrds. could you add cramfs support ?-) yes, no problem Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? please, if you change initrd could you start with my codebase http://www.comedia.it/~bluca/cooker/lvm2 main versions of these programs should be updated to mine. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] juk contrib rpm
Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 00:30:20 Uhr MET, schrieb illogic-al: i know the 3.2 version is there but this is for 3.1. it could always be made to conflict w/ the beta version and removed at install. but i was thinking to make it available for people not on cooker but in contrib sources That's not a good idea, as the contribs are always synched to the current cooker. The Mandrake club repository is the right place for your package. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 07:12, Alberto Ridolfi wrote: Finally, can you go back to the old x-windows signon window. With the new one, you can only login for users that are on the list. The old one also allowed you to enter the user's name. Translation: I prefer real KDM to MdkKDM. I agree with him. MdkKDM looks like a false trail. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Sony Clié, Palm, Handspri
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:24 +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: I have a Sony PEG-N760C (asian version of the N770C): ID 054c:0066 Sony Corp. Clie PEG-N7x0C PalmOS PDA Serial You forgot to tell whether it requires ttyUSB0 or 1 :) But it is not a problem, since I got more infos for pilot-link hacker. Guys, if you own a PalmOS device, go to Pilot-Link Wiki and add missing infos there directly : http://wiki.pilot-link.org/index.php/DeviceMatrix Thanks. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Problem with Gnome keyboard shortcuts.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:40:30 -0500, Tom and Esther Ward wrote: Hello, list. I am running Mandrake 9.2 with gnome 2.4.0, and I have discovered most of the Gnome built in keyboard shortcuts do not work. I think your keyboard is misconfigured and don't send Alt when pressing Alt key. Try running xev (from X11R6-contrib package) and press alt key to see what keycode it returns. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] menus in kde
Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : Hi I lost most of my menus in kde after upgrading to cooker some weeks ago. Is there a way I can reinstall default menus? Which program would it be? best regards keld Have you made an update of the kde menu ? I know that it solved the loss of my default menu on 9.2.
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:22:48 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: /usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess ! Indeed, at the same time you have : - kde icons themes - gnome icons themes - XFree cursors In case you didn't knew, GNOME and KDE are now starting to use a common specification to share icons (http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/icon-theme-spec). But since everything is not done yet, there are problems. And doing symlinks will not help the situation. I think you should read the spec and fill bugs on bugs.kde.org and bugzilla.gnome.org where you find problems for both environments. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin: Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit : Hello, It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using the wrong version of perl. Editing it to the current version allows this to run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be repackaged? Works for me too, ah :-) Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent perl in #!) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] kde 3.2 beta ||||| kgamma e i18n -it (italian)
On Monday 17 November 2003 03:40, francesco.melo wrote: where are they? kgamma is into kdegraphics. kde-ii18n-it for the moment I didn't success to compile it. Regards. thanks Francesco
Re: [Cooker] [KDE-xinerama] New window doesn't open in cursor screen
On Sunday 16 November 2003 20:02, Fred Marmond wrote: [...] Is the KDE Cooker version compiled with xinerama? Maybe this is the problem. Yes, I think, others functionnalities are working fine (place task-bars in right screen, for exemple) Please created a bug report on bugs.kde.org. New KDE 3.2 use new kwin, I think that it's a bug with new kwin. Thanks Regards.
[Cooker] mailinglists at gmane.org
Hello, is there a reason why only the following lists are available at news.gmane.org? gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.amd64 gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.cvs gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.internationalization gmane.linux.mandrake.expert gmane.linux.mandrake.expert.french gmane.linux.mandrake.newbie gmane.linux.mandrake.newbie.french gmane.linux.mandrake.plf.announce gmane.linux.mandrake.plf.general gmane.linux.mandrake.qmail gmane.linux.mandrake.security.announce gmane.linux.mandrake.security.exploits gmane.linux.mandrake.security.firewall gmane.linux.mandrake.security.general How about subscribing the other mailinglists (http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/) too? Regards, Helge
Re: [Cooker] kde 3.2 beta ||||| kgamma e i18n -it (italian)
On Monday 17 November 2003 10.33, Laurent Montel wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 03:40, francesco.melo wrote: where are they? kgamma is into kdegraphics. kde-ii18n-it for the moment I didn't success to compile it. Regards. Is it the same situation for other non-included languages, e.g. swedish.
[Cooker] Ooo and bold fonts
Hello, I have some problems with OpenOffice.org freezing when I use bold fonts with Times, for example. Anyone else having the same problem ? -- Pascal Cavy __ Running 15 days, 17:42, 1 user, load average: 0.60, 0.56, 0.68 (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-2mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.22-18mdk-i686-up-4GB
Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?
måndagen den 17 november 2003 10.20 skrev Frederic Crozat: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin: Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit : Hello, It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using the wrong version of perl. Editing it to the current version allows this to run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be repackaged? Works for me too, ah :-) Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent perl in #!) Ahh, smart. This is quite common, maybe this should be done on a larger scale?
Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:42:32 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 10.20 skrev Frederic Crozat: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin: Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit : Hello, It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using the wrong version of perl. Editing it to the current version allows this to run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be repackaged? Works for me too, ah :-) Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent perl in #!) Ahh, smart. This is quite common, maybe this should be done on a larger scale? Probably.. Pixel told me it was ugly to use version for perl call so I follow Perl guru advice :) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] Pb with Websphere 5.1 WSAD
Hello, I've installed WSAD (Websphere Studio Application Deceloper) on Linux Mandrake 9.2 and I have the following error message when I launch the embedded server : stackpointer=0xbfff7a88 JVMXM004: JVM is performing abort shutdown sequence JVMDG217: Dump Handler is Processing a Signal - Please Wait. JVMDG221: Dump Handler Caught Internal Exception 2 Processing JAVADUMP for Signal 11. JVMDG215: Dump Handler has Processed Exception Signal 11. Anyone have experienced the same error ? Thanks _ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr
Re: [Cooker] Ooo and bold fonts
Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 11:43:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Cavy: I have some problems with OpenOffice.org freezing when I use bold fonts with Times, for example. Anyone else having the same problem ? No problems here. But I have to use OOo on a remote X display that doesn't support the X extensions for render. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] Missing kdenetwork - wifi?
Hello, In the KDE 3.2 beta 1 CVS I see there is the kdenetwork/wifi program but i can't find it in Cooker Package? (urpmf don't find in any package! ) Where is the kwireless panel applet and other wifi utils? Also http://kwifimanager.sourceforge.net/ reporta that now kwifimanager is in KDE CVS for 3.2! Any Idea? Lucio
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
Olivier Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ? because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :( Well, the packager (Chmouel) is gone, he doesn't work at MandrakeSoft anymore. The real maintener is now Andrey, but I guess he hasn't rights to upload in main. Who can volunteer ? just updated
Re: [Cooker] Sony Clié, Palm, Handspri
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:12:28 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:37:24 +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: I have a Sony PEG-N760C (asian version of the N770C): ID 054c:0066 Sony Corp. Clie PEG-N7x0C PalmOS PDA Serial You forgot to tell whether it requires ttyUSB0 or 1 :) But it is not a problem, since I got more infos for pilot-link hacker. Hmm, those infos are still incomplete.. Stefan, I still need to know : -which version of PalmOS is it running ? -which USB tty are you using to sync it ? Thanks.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: by the way, why aren't new module-init-tools updated in main ? because the maintainer is hiding somewhere :( Well, the packager (Chmouel) is gone, he doesn't work at MandrakeSoft anymore. module-init-tools have been maintained by thierry. I do not know about hotplug. i've uploaded your work. hotplug is maintained by fredl. btw your changes result in quite some changes (are you sure we haven't lost any features ?) : --- hotplug--files.old 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 +++ hotplug--files.new 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 @@ -1,37 +1,27 @@ /etc/hotplug -/etc/hotplug.d -/etc/hotplug.d/default -/etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug /etc/hotplug/blacklist -/etc/hotplug/dasd.agent -/etc/hotplug/firmware.agent /etc/hotplug/hotplug.functions /etc/hotplug/ieee1394 /etc/hotplug/ieee1394.agent /etc/hotplug/ieee1394/sbp2 -/etc/hotplug/input.agent -/etc/hotplug/input.rc /etc/hotplug/net.agent /etc/hotplug/pci /etc/hotplug/pci.agent /etc/hotplug/pci.rc /etc/hotplug/scsi.agent -/etc/hotplug/tape.agent /etc/hotplug/usb /etc/hotplug/usb.agent /etc/hotplug/usb.distmap /etc/hotplug/usb.handmap /etc/hotplug/usb.rc /etc/hotplug/usb/usb-storage -/etc/init.d/hotplug -/etc/sysconfig/hotplug /sbin/hotplug /usr/lib/hotplug /usr/sbin/hotplugctl /usr/sbin/update-usb.usermap -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05 -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/ChangeLog -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/README +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01 +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/ChangeLog +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/README /usr/share/man/man8/hotplug.8.bz2 /usr/share/man/man8/update-usb.usermap.8.bz2 /var/run/usb compare package requires * --- hotplug--requires.old 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 +++ hotplug--requires.new 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 @@ -1,5 +1,4 @@ /bin/sh -bash chkconfig ifplugd libc.so.6 I'll submit a (very small) patch for mkinitrd to add splash in 2.6 initrds. could you add cramfs support ?-) yes, no problem Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output
[Cooker] ReKall is going to be GPL
The Kompany has decided to distribute ReKall, a frontend to xBase, MySQL, and PostgreSQL, under the GPL (actually dual licensing GPL/Proprietary). That would be a nice addition to the distribution, considering there are few database GUI frontends. See there : http://www.rekallrevealed.org/ Eric
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 09:18, Frederic Crozat a écrit : On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:22:48 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: /usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess ! Indeed, at the same time you have : - kde icons themes - gnome icons themes - XFree cursors In case you didn't knew, GNOME and KDE are now starting to use a common specification to share icons (http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/icon-theme-spec). But since everything is not done yet, there are problems. And doing symlinks will not help the situation. I think you should read the spec and fill bugs on bugs.kde.org and bugzilla.gnome.org where you find problems for both environments. !!! I'm sure that there are at least 20 icons in one size with the wrong name. Ok i will do it, but for a folder/directory, what's the right name ? folder.png ( KDE ) ? directory.png ? gnome-fs-directory.png ( Gnome ) ? I read the spec, they talk about the index.theme ( ok, it's present ), but they don't give a list of standard icons name ( name for folder, home directory, nfs/smb directory, floppy device, HD device, DVD device, ... ) at least for filesystem and devices. We should have standard names and freedesktop.org should give the list of theses standard names : so a theme could be use without modification between both desktop and supplementary icons ( desktop specific ) could be safely ignored by a DE. So If I don't know the right name that an icon should have, how can i konw that this is kde or gnome bug ? and how icon designer could know wich name to give to their icons ?
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
Le dim 16/11/2003 à 23:11, Larry Nguyen a écrit : On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:03 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: As a user that help newbies on forum and as i'm facing always the same problem ( where are my windows drives ? can i access my windows drives under linux ? ), I think that diskdrake when having detect a windows partitions should put a link/icon on the desktop in order to give the ability for the users to directly see that they can have access to theses drives. I really like to see all mounted partitions should be under one directory and then create that direcotry/link on the desktop instead of each mounted partition with the hard drive icon on the desktop. This could be very un-organized desktop and looks very ugly if one has more than 1 hard drive, which is not so un-common nowadays. For example, create a link with description such as Access other partitions, then when users click on it, it will launch either nautilus or kfm or whatever_your_favorite_file_manager_here . 1°/ mdk used to do this for removable devices ( CDROM, floppy ) but it ends up it was very ugly and unuserfriendly 2°/ You know I used to see windows desktop with more than 15 icons. That's ugly, but people need to see directly some things or else ... 3°/ Here is the problem - launching the right filemanager. But in fact we should use the supermount stuff and extend it. Under KDE you can select the device icons you want to show ( see Lookfeel - Comportment - device icons ). At this time we show CDROm/NFS/SMB/Floppy/Zip icons. We should add FAT32/NTFS drives. This way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy ) On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of course ) by normal users ( so umask=0 should be set by default for security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=0 for windows FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=0. I would like to see this one also. But, will there be any risk, such as, users could accidently delete stuff from their winbloze partition? So ? under windows they can do it too. On top of that now most of the time under kde/gnome when you delete a file, by default the file is put in the trash, unless you specify directly delete and you have a confirmation box. So the risk is minimal. --- Se puede morir por nada, pero ne se puede morir por nadie. MR
Re: [Cooker] Ooo and bold fonts
Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 11:43:23 Uhr MET, schrieb Pascal Cavy: I have some problems with OpenOffice.org freezing when I use bold fonts with Times, for example. Anyone else having the same problem ? No problems here. But I have to use OOo on a remote X display that doesn't support the X extensions for render. For me works with any Times: - Times New Roman (monotype), True Type from MS TT core fonts - Times New Roman (Adobe), Type 1 - Times (Adobe), Type 1 - Times from X11 server (bitmapped) Bye. Giuseppe.
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
On Monday 17 November 2003 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you have mdkkdm. Use Mandrake Control Center-Hardware-Login Manager (or similar) to change this. (This is a change from 9.0-9.1) Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; what to speak about us mortals... For some unknown reason the way how to do this is Mandrake Control Center - System - Choose the Display Manager. Why this Login Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. I for sure wouldn't find it myself in a lifetime but somebody told me on some list (don't remember, maybe even here on Cooker). This is _so_ confusing, specially because everything other related to this login window is specified on KDE Control Center - System - Login Manager. The Mighty Ones at Mandrake could IMHO at least put the same name in MCC, to make it a bit more understandable: Mandrake Control Center - System - Choose Login Manager. Certainly putting some more understandable icon for it could help as well, instead of quite cryptic traffic lights (!) like now. I can't make out what the user is doing here. kcontrol-Administration-Login Mangager? I am sure this works. Changing type of kdm now in 9.2 leads to following actions: if user confirms he allows to re-start kdm, current KDE session is abruptly terminated (without any warning to save your job etc.), X are terminated as well and user finds himself in black textmode fullscreen with login prompt. Certainly many of new users do not even know they can start graphic GUI again with startx, and are scared up to point of re-installing or something. Yeah, maybe somebody should at least make red light glowing brightly on traffic light icon leading to change of kdm... :-) It seems the user has some X configuration issue. Nope. This seems to me being principal issue of how new things are introduced in MDK nowadays: somebody likes new thing better and wishfully thinks that everybody will. It gets never (or too less) tested how the user might get back the _old_ feature, and the procedure itself is often cryptic or even non-existant (like you can not avoid installing of bootsplash anymore). Nevertheless most people are quite conservative and for some reason want back things like they are used to. I for example wanted back correct hostname displayed on Login Screen, _and_ the clock ticking there ;-) Harry
Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding the tooltip? Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget. Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB stuff, I guess. A. I spent around 10 minutes fixing a simple web page that shows this in action, a picture says more than a thousand words. Please check here: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/xmms-1_2_7-26mdk.html Download packages for MDK9.2 here: http://www.deserve-it.com/9.2/ -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harijs Buss wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you have mdkkdm. Use Mandrake Control Center-Hardware-Login Manager (or similar) to change this. (This is a change from 9.0-9.1) Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; Actually I do, that is the way it is on 9.1 ;-). what to speak about us mortals... For some unknown reason the way how to do this is Mandrake Control Center - System - Choose the Display Manager. Why this Login Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. Technically, that is the correct term. KDE's terminology is wrong (and why do they call it kdm and not klm?). I for sure wouldn't find it myself in a lifetime but somebody told me on some list (don't remember, maybe even here on Cooker). This is _so_ confusing, specially because everything other related to this login window is specified on KDE Control Center - System - Login Manager. Well, you need to choose which display manager you use (in MCC), and after that you use the tools for the display manager to configure it. Just like you choose KDE/GNOME at login time, and use their tools to configure it. The Mighty Ones at Mandrake could IMHO at least put the same name in MCC, to make it a bit more understandable: Mandrake Control Center - System - Choose Login Manager. Certainly putting some more understandable icon for it could help as well, instead of quite cryptic traffic lights (!) like now. IMHO KDE is wrong, Mandrake is using the correct term. I can't make out what the user is doing here. kcontrol-Administration-Login Mangager? I am sure this works. Changing type of kdm now in 9.2 leads to following actions: if user confirms he allows to re-start kdm, current KDE session is abruptly terminated (without any warning to save your job etc.), X are terminated as well and user finds himself in black textmode fullscreen with login prompt. Certainly many of new users do not even know they can start graphic GUI again with startx, and are scared up to point of re-installing or something. Well, actually they should restart the dm service. Something broke in 9.2. Yeah, maybe somebody should at least make red light glowing brightly on traffic light icon leading to change of kdm... :-) ??? It seems the user has some X configuration issue. Nope. This seems to me being principal issue of how new things are introduced in MDK nowadays: somebody likes new thing better and wishfully thinks that everybody will. It gets never (or too less) tested how the user might get back the _old_ feature, and the procedure itself is often cryptic or even non-existant (like you can not avoid installing of bootsplash anymore). Nevertheless most people are quite conservative and for some reason want back things like they are used to. I for example wanted back correct hostname displayed on Login Screen, _and_ the clock ticking there ;-) Well, AFAIK, 9.2 defaults to kdm, not mdkkdm (which had some issues, but these were apparently corrected by updates). The initial change to mdkkdm was in 9.1, and it didn't have the problem with the dm not restarting properly. Since kdm is the default (at least on new installs, and AFAIK), you should by default be able to get your hostname and clock back. So, I think your analysis isn't totally correct. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uL1frJK6UGDSBKcRAizsAJ9swky63FyQXHbKoIquw4DPdTVU0QCeKsHq xUYxJigaXGyxPMbak5ZUnJ4= =gppG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
i've uploaded your work. hotplug is maintained by fredl. good he has been silent wrt initscirpts as well. I hope he's not following fpons ... btw your changes result in quite some changes (are you sure we haven't lost any features ?) : you never know till you test it. --- hotplug--files.old 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 +++ hotplug--files.new 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 @@ -1,37 +1,27 @@ /etc/hotplug -/etc/hotplug.d -/etc/hotplug.d/default -/etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug /etc/hotplug/blacklist -/etc/hotplug/dasd.agent -/etc/hotplug/firmware.agent looks like reverse diff to me. [...] -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05 -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/ChangeLog -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/README +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01 +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/ChangeLog +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/README mine is based on post-2003_08_05 CVS :) * --- hotplug--requires.old 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 +++ hotplug--requires.new 2003-11-17 12:06:28.0 +0100 @@ -1,5 +1,4 @@ /bin/sh -bash chkconfig ifplugd libc.so.6 I do not know actually; is it direct or reverse diff? Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output that is still just wild guess :(
[Cooker] Differences between OpenPBS and ScalablePBS.
In my opinion, this should be in the ScalabePBS package because in the current packages the description is exactly the same: The Scalable OpenPBS version incorporates scalability, fault tolerance, and feature extension patches provided by NCSA, OSC, Sandia, PNNL, U of Buffalo, and other leading edge HPC centers. This version is based upon OpenPBS version 2.3.12 and may be freely redistributed.
[Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
Hi,
I've made some tests this night to reduce the size of 2.6 kernel.
I've modularized almost all that can be (except IDE, mouse and
keyboard).
vmlinuz is now a bit less than 1.3 Megabytes.
Compiling ext2 as a module would save us about 70 more kilobytes.
ext2 module is 79k, cramfs takes 13k when builtin.
A cramfs initrd is slightly larger than a ext2 initrd (about 2k).
So I patched mkinitrd and make-initrd to allow to build cramfs initrd.
(patchs included in this mail).
For now, the kernel can't load directly cramfs initrd (because the code
doesn't recognize cramfs magic number), but it can load gzipped cramfs
initrd (because the code can recognize a gzip file).
Well, a patch has been made (by Debian ?) and is included in Debian
kernel, but we don't care much since we can (theorically) load gzip
cramfs.
(I've extracted the patch from Debian's messy patch, it is
included too in this mail).
and you dropped some cramfs changes:
--- cut here
---
--- kernel-source-2.6.0-test9-2.6.0-test9.orig/fs/cramfs/inode.c
+++ kernel-source-2.6.0-test9-2.6.0-test9/fs/cramfs/inode.c
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
static struct inode *get_cramfs_inode(struct super_block *sb, struct
cramfs_inode * cramfs_inode)
{
struct inode * inode = new_inode(sb);
- static struct timespec zerotime;
+ const struct timespec zerotime = { 0, 0 };
if (inode) {
inode-i_mode = cramfs_inode-mode;
-- cut here
--
But when I try to boot with a gzipped cramfs initrd, the kernel
can gunzip the initrd but fails to mount it as ramfs,
sys_mount(/dev/root.old,/root,cramfs, ...) exits with EINVAL code.
have you tried adding --nocompress
cramfs is already compressed and adding --nocompress increases the size with
~2k
i've tried your initrd changes and all seemd fine until it actually tried to
mount it
:-) i've forgotten to compile in cramfs :-)
so let see what happens when the recompile is ready
Strangly enough, I can mount the initrd correctly once the kernel is
booted up (in this case, I use a ext2 initrd, ext2 and cramfs are
builtin).
Should I ask about it on lkml ?
PS
the old modular ide is broken even if everything is compiled in
( see buffer layer errot. on lkml )
fix new patch uploaded, but i still get a oopses at cdrom initialization
kobject_register returned -17
Call Trace: [c01a0fcc] [c01e9200] [c01e9580] [c0215559]
[c01ca008] [c0221493] [c033e67d] [c01050b4] [c0105082] [c01091ed]
Warning (Oops_read): Code line not seen, dumping what data is available
Trace; c01a0fcc kobject_register+37/43
Trace; c01e9200 bus_add_driver+37/80
Trace; c01e9580 driver_register+2f/31
Trace; c0215559 ide_register_driver+fc/104
Trace; c01ca008 pnp_register_driver+2a/5a
Trace; c0221493 pnpide_init_module+a/e
Trace; c033e67d do_initcalls+35/87
Trace; c01050b4 init+32/10e
Trace; c0105082 init+0/10e
Trace; c01091ed kernel_thread_helper+5/b
---
that is with built in ide
so i droped it for later investigation
svetljo
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[Cooker] passwordless login doesn't work in kdm anymore
Hi, I use passwordless login in kdm for a couple accounts on my system. This used to work great in KDE 3.1.4 but it has stopped working in KDE 3.2 beta. Getting a fresh config file and making my customizations over that didn't cure it. I'm not sure if this is a packaging issue, something that should be filed upstream, or a screwup peculiar to my system. Is anyone else seeing it?
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
On Monday 17 November 2003 14:21, Buchan Milne wrote: Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; Actually I do, that is the way it is on 9.1 ;-). Even more confusing, isn't it? :) Control Center - System - Choose the Display Manager. Why this Login Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. Technically, that is the correct term. KDE's terminology is wrong (and why do they call it kdm and not klm?). One more principal thing is that distribution ought to be made for users, not to fight terminology or other semi-religious disputes. Who cares what is right theoretically or by historic reasons? User needs something understandable. This small window asking for username and password is named Login Window in almost every kind of system (and earlier on the text screen it used to be Login Screen). That's what it does: allows (or not) to Login. (Or Logon, depending on religion again ;-) What's wrong with calling window by it's functionality? Call simple things in simple way. KISS, it's old good working principle. on KDE Control Center - System - Login Manager. Well, you need to choose which display manager you use (in MCC), and after that you use the tools for the display manager to configure it. I understand this, but have you noticed that one and the same thing is named differently in both these places? IMHO KDE is wrong, Mandrake is using the correct term. MDK should care more to put _understandable_ term. Well, actually they should restart the dm service. Something broke in 9.2. Please register this at Anthill. I wouldn't be able to describe it in correct terms:) maybe somebody should at least make red light glowing brightly on traffic light icon leading to change of kdm... :-) ??? In MCC - System, the icon near Choose the display manager is traffic light device with red, yellow and green lights all off. What have traffic lights in common with choosing type of login window, is again beyond my understanding, but if red light would be shining bright _on_ it could make somebody feel there is danger to go further ;-) Much better would be, of course, to draw small login box there so to give some notion what it is really all about. Since kdm is the default (at least on new installs, and AFAIK), you should by default be able to get your hostname and clock back. Well... I am able now. I am learning somehow. Just the way as it happens sometimes is IMHO way too cruel for normal user coming from Windows world. Personally I will survive (I survived even JCL on IBM/360 and binary coding without any assembler when I was young :) So, I think your analysis isn't totally correct. I don't even pretend it is. Just personal impressions. Thanks for reading them :-) I have all the time this strange feeling that Mandrake could do even much better with such a minimum of CRM efforts... Hope it will happen soon ;-) Harry
[Cooker] ALSA driver dose not work in 9.2 final
Hi all, I have an intel chipset based sound card that use to work with ALSA driver (snd-intel8x0) in mandrake 9.0 and the 9.1 release. I installed the final release of 9.2 and it dose not load. The OSS (i810_audio) works okay, but I need to use the ALSA because it has the full duplex capability My soundcard chip is detected correctly as 82801 AC97 as u might figured that out from the above mentioned drivers. I hope some one can help to resolve this. Thanks ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6371] [drakconf] New: Please add option to change GTK+ 2 skin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [seguso.forever] wrote: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6371 Summary: Please add option to change GTK+ 2 skin Product: drakconf Version: 9.3-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: drakconf AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use KDE as the primary desktop. Sadly there is no option to change the looks of gnome apps. (both theme and font). Too bad, because many users would be attracted to Mandrake by goodlooking apps: imagine being able to set Nuvola, Smokey-blue or Grand-canyon! Currently, I edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 by hand, but this cannot be asked to the ordinary user. The other options are not feasible either: 1. calling the gnome-control-center by command line does not work (why?) and the ordinary user cannot be asked to use the command line anyway. Works for me, as does gnome-theme-manager. 2. you could add switch2 to the distro, but beware that it currently does not work (because it creates a bad .gtkrc-2.0). 3) Add menu for gnome-control-center to Configuration menu (I have suggested this before), in which case it's a GNOME packaging bug (control center should have needs=x11, not needs=gnome). Of course, considering that default GTK font size is too small (IMHO) and drakxtools etc use GTK, KDE users have too-small fonts in drakfw, mandrakegalaxy, drakxtools etc, and have no easy way to change it. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uMw1rJK6UGDSBKcRAk6rAJwIS48x/ZqjlD9mz+6xy+nRzrSY8gCfY+bd Na8Yh6ozr/48ZTsTxpUL4gY= =jWxm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i've uploaded your work. hotplug is maintained by fredl. good he has been silent wrt initscirpts as well. I hope he's not following fpons ... he won't but he's busy with managment stuff (he's head of developers) looks like reverse diff to me. [...] -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05 -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/ChangeLog -/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2003_08_05/README +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01 +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/ChangeLog +/usr/share/doc/hotplug-2002_04_01/README mine is based on post-2003_08_05 CVS :) upload script got broken somewhere :-( Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output that is still just wild guess :( but it'll work... grep /proc/filesystems else
[Cooker] clock applet crashes (Sig 11) KDE panel
With the mose recent update to QT and KDELibs (3.1.93-17mdk) - every time I start KDE I immediately get an error for the clock applet on the kicker panel - and then a SIG 11. Thx, R.Fox -- Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Consulting Services
Re: [Cooker] perl-Magick relocation error
Ainsi parlait Gary Walsh : Thierry Vignaud wrote: Gary Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to run the BINS web photo album program and I get the following perl error: /usr/bin/perl: relocation error: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Image/Magick/ Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick Are you sure you're using the mdk build of perl-Magick, and not the plf build ? I've seen similar problems already. What is a relocation error? the linker cannot relocate symbol = the package needs to be rebuild and relinked with current version of imagemagick libraries I have the latest rpm from cooker. There doesn't seem to be an SRPM on the cooker mirrors, so I can't rebuild it myself. It is part of the ImageMagick package. -- Any line, wire, or cloth cut to length will be too short -- Dimensions General Shefields Corollaries n°1
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le dim 16/11/2003 à 23:11, Larry Nguyen a écrit : On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:03 am, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: As a user that help newbies on forum and as i'm facing always the same problem ( where are my windows drives ? can i access my windows drives under linux ? ), I think that diskdrake when having detect a windows partitions should put a link/icon on the desktop in order to give the ability for the users to directly see that they can have access to theses drives. I really like to see all mounted partitions should be under one directory and then create that direcotry/link on the desktop instead of each mounted partition with the hard drive icon on the desktop. This could be very un-organized desktop and looks very ugly if one has more than 1 hard drive, which is not so un-common nowadays. For example, create a link with description such as Access other partitions, then when users click on it, it will launch either nautilus or kfm or whatever_your_favorite_file_manager_here . You mean, under KDE, a shortcut to devices:/ ? (or use the services sidebar in KDE and click Devices. 1°/ mdk used to do this for removable devices ( CDROM, floppy ) but it ends up it was very ugly and unuserfriendly 2°/ You know I used to see windows desktop with more than 15 icons. That's ugly, but people need to see directly some things or else ... One of my friends had his whole desktop covered in icons! 3°/ Here is the problem - launching the right filemanager. ??? But in fact we should use the supermount stuff and extend it. No, supermount is only necessary for removable media (USB devices are a grey area ...). Under KDE you can select the device icons you want to show ( see Lookfeel - Comportment - device icons ). At this time we show CDROm/NFS/SMB/Floppy/Zip icons. We should add FAT32/NTFS drives. What is special about FAT32/NTFS? What if I want to see other filesystems (where is my Redhat drive? Where is my SuSE drive etc etc???). That is what Hard Disk is for. This way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy ) On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of course ) by normal users ( so umask=0 should be set by default for security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=0 for windows FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=0. This is already the case AFAIK (last time I looked at the code). What security level did you install with? I would like to see this one also. But, will there be any risk, such as, users could accidently delete stuff from their winbloze partition? So ? under windows they can do it too. On top of that now most of the time under kde/gnome when you delete a file, by default the file is put in the trash, unless you specify directly delete and you have a confirmation box. So the risk is minimal. But, OS's that default to fat32 are usually not multi-user, so it does increase the risk IMHO. Anyway, I don't think this problem should be solved in diskdrake or anything else. The problem is (IMHO) due to shortcomings of the KDE navigation tree (and the fact that GNOME doesn't really have one at all yet). I have posted on this before. IMHO, the different buttons on the splitter bar in Konqueror are the problem, they should be removed, all entries reorganized and merged into one tree view. Why do I access NFS/Fish/smb files in Services-LAN Browser, but http in Network, and FTP in both? Why do I access the CD-ROM in Services-Audio CD Browser and in Root Directory and Services-Devices? Home This Computer - -Entire filesystem (/) - -Media (devices:/ + audiocd:/ + supermount'ed devices) Network - -SMB/Windows (smb:/) - -Unix (fish/nfs hosts from lisa or similar) - -Web (ftp/http hosts from lisa or similar?) - -Directory (ldap:/ ;-)) And we still need to find place for bookmars, history and printers. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uNKkrJK6UGDSBKcRAmIEAKCy2Otddc84jjxQTRqzsefcEOj3KgCeOKfJ LR427kDBu3oLT5hjGLg1ARQ= =copb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:52:41 +0100 (MET)
Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and you dropped some cramfs changes:
--- cut here
---
--- kernel-source-2.6.0-test9-2.6.0-test9.orig/fs/cramfs/inode.c
+++ kernel-source-2.6.0-test9-2.6.0-test9/fs/cramfs/inode.c
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@
static struct inode *get_cramfs_inode(struct super_block *sb, struct
cramfs_inode * cramfs_inode)
{
struct inode * inode = new_inode(sb);
- static struct timespec zerotime;
+ const struct timespec zerotime = { 0, 0 };
if (inode) {
inode-i_mode = cramfs_inode-mode;
-- cut here
--
sorry, I didn't included it in my previous mail :/
But I used it for my tests.
have you tried adding --nocompress
cramfs is already compressed and adding --nocompress increases the
size with~2k
Yes, I tried, with --compress, the initrd is really a cramfs one (not a
gzipped cramfs), so it needs the cramfs initrd patch.
Same results, the cramfs image is recognized, but cannot be mounted.
It won't make any difference to compress or not the cramfs initrd if the
cramfs initrd patch is applied.
I repeat one more time: it is only needed for non-compressed cramfs
initrd :-)
i've tried your initrd changes and all seemd fine until it actually
tried to mount it
:-) i've forgotten to compile in cramfs :-)
so let see what happens when the recompile is ready
Good luck :)
Strangly enough, I can mount the initrd correctly once the kernel is
booted up (in this case, I use a ext2 initrd, ext2 and cramfs are
builtin).
Should I ask about it on lkml ?
PS
the old modular ide is broken even if everything is compiled in
( see buffer layer errot. on lkml )
fix new patch uploaded, but i still get a oopses at cdrom
initialization kobject_register returned -17
I'll have a look later.
Cheers.
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Re: [Cooker] perl-Magick relocation error
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Gary Walsh : Thierry Vignaud wrote: Gary Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to run the BINS web photo album program and I get the following perl error: /usr/bin/perl: relocation error: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Image/Magick/ Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick Are you sure you're using the mdk build of perl-Magick, and not the plf build ? I've seen similar problems already. Yes, I am using the latest build from cooker. What is a relocation error? the linker cannot relocate symbol = the package needs to be rebuild and relinked with current version of imagemagick libraries I have the latest rpm from cooker. There doesn't seem to be an SRPM on the cooker mirrors, so I can't rebuild it myself. It is part of the ImageMagick package. I finally figured that out, but a recompile on my system didn't change anything. -- Gary Walsh Kitchener, Ontario, Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oeone.net/gwalsh
Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
måndagen den 17 november 2003 13.11 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding the tooltip? Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget. Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB stuff, I guess. I tried to explain that this is simply not the case, did you check the link below? A. I spent around 10 minutes fixing a simple web page that shows this in action, a picture says more than a thousand words. Please check here: http://www.deserve-it.com/Cooker/xmms-1_2_7-26mdk.html Download packages for MDK9.2 here: http://www.deserve-it.com/9.2/
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
have you tried adding --nocompress cramfs is already compressed and adding --nocompress increases the size with~2k Yes, I tried, with --compress, the initrd is really a cramfs one (not a gzipped cramfs), so it needs the cramfs initrd patch. Same results, the cramfs image is recognized, but cannot be mounted. It won't make any difference to compress or not the cramfs initrd if the cramfs initrd patch is applied. I repeat one more time: it is only needed for non-compressed cramfs initrd :-) i've tried your initrd changes and all seemd fine until it actually tried to mount it :-) i've forgotten to compile in cramfs :-) so let see what happens when the recompile is ready Good luck :) only luck wont help :( it didn't worked, but it works with the debian's mkinitrd have you missed that cramfs is readonly ? we actually are missing /dev/root as mkrootdev /dev/root fails -- read only fs but it probably needs quite deeper changes svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] jamin?
On 11/16/2003 11:42:34 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote: Something for Austin: http://jamin.sourceforge.net/ I've been working on it for a while. Thanks, Austin
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
... cramfs Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output that is still just wild guess :( but it'll work... grep /proc/filesystems else not working. you can build initrd for 2.6 under 2.4 or other way round. or even out of miniroot. I'd wish to use initramfs if I knew how to free space taken by it :(
[Cooker] irssi-gc obsoletes irssi
Hi, All is in the subject, my irssi got replaced by urpmi --auto-select... Btw, is there a way to share the src.rpm between both ?
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:24, François Pons wrote: -=-=-=- Name: perl-URPMRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.94 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 8mdk Build Date: Sat Nov 15 21:07:47 2003 With urpmi.update I get the following error: # sudo urpmi.update Cooker reading rpm files from [/data/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/RPMS] /var/cache/urpmi/headers/kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-13mdk.noarch /var/cache/urpmi/headers/perl-XML-Twig-3.10-2mdk.noarch /var/cache/urpmi/headers/mkcd-3.6.3-2mdk.noarch . . . writing list file for medium Cooker performing second pass to compute dependencies reading headers from medium Cooker building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Cooker.cz] Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 348. -- Oliver Programmer: A device that converts coffein into software.
Re: [Cooker] ALSA driver dose not work in 9.2 final
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an intel chipset based sound card that use to work with ALSA driver (snd-intel8x0) in mandrake 9.0 and the 9.1 release. I installed the final release of 9.2 and it dose not load. The OSS (i810_audio) works okay, but I need to use the ALSA because it has the full duplex capability My soundcard chip is detected correctly as 82801 AC97 as u might figured that out from the above mentioned drivers. I hope some one can help to resolve this. please follow the instructions listed in thoubleshooting window of draksound and at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardwareHowTo#Sound_Cards classic bug sound tester: lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO will tell you which driver your card use by default (and if your card is detected) grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf will tell you what driver it currently uses /sbin/lsmod will enable you to check if its module (driver) is loaded or not /sbin/chkconfig --list sound and /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa will tell you if sound and alsa services're configured to be run on initlevel 3 aumix -q will tell you if the sound volume is muted or not /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp will tell which program uses the sound card.
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 13:52, Buchan Milne a écrit : FACORAT Fabrice wrote: But in fact we should use the supermount stuff and extend it. No, supermount is only necessary for removable media (USB devices are a grey area ...). bad english from me, i was talking about the ability to display icons for CDROM/HD/zip/... Under KDE you can select the device icons you want to show ( see Lookfeel - Comportment - device icons ). At this time we show CDROm/NFS/SMB/Floppy/Zip icons. We should add FAT32/NTFS drives. What is special about FAT32/NTFS? What if I want to see other filesystems (where is my Redhat drive? Where is my SuSE drive etc etc???). That is what Hard Disk is for. Seeing others linux partitions is what i can call : advanced stuff - so this should not be enable by default ( and hard disk will show them ). A normal user ( desktop environment ) should not see others linux partitions except his home directory. So see / and /home on his desktop is useless for him. Most of the times this kind of users put files in their home directory and open/save some files in their windows partitions in order to share them with windows. So they need to know directly and easily where is their home directory ( the home icon ), and where is/are their windows partition(s). Showing FAT32/NTFS drives is what I called basic stuff for newbies. For example, the user need to install the firmware for his modem to make the connection work under linux, so he dl the firmware under windows and then his first question is : Can i have an access to my windows drives ? If yes, where can i access them ? At least 5 times a week on a forum where you have many newbies we have this kind of question. Mandrake control center ? they don't know or don't know where to go ( MountPoint is chinese for them ) This way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy ) On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of course ) by normal users ( so umask=0 should be set by default for security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=0 for windows FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=0. This is already the case AFAIK (last time I looked at the code). What security level did you install with? since which version ? I don't know for me as I don't install 9.2 on HD where there was some FAT32 partitions, but on forum I have many times users saying that they can't write on their windows partitions ( 9.1, maybe 9.2 but will have to check ) at least if they was able to find where was their windows partitions. I would like to see this one also. But, will there be any risk, such as, users could accidently delete stuff from their winbloze partition? So ? under windows they can do it too. On top of that now most of the time under kde/gnome when you delete a file, by default the file is put in the trash, unless you specify directly delete and you have a confirmation box. So the risk is minimal. But, OS's that default to fat32 are usually not multi-user, so it does increase the risk IMHO. I'm talking for home/desktop usage. in multiuser/workstation usage, the sysadmin have the responsibility to enable/disable this feature. Now for desktop/home usage when several people have access to the computer the problem is Linux/unix rights limitations ( need ACL and easy way to managed ACL ) or need away to specify that this group and only this group of users can access theses drives. Anyway, I don't think this problem should be solved in diskdrake or anything else. The problem is (IMHO) due to shortcomings of the KDE navigation tree (and the fact that GNOME doesn't really have one at all yet). I have posted on this before. IMHO, the different buttons on the splitter bar in Konqueror are the problem, they should be removed, all entries reorganized and merged into one tree view. Why do I access NFS/Fish/smb files in Services-LAN Browser, but http in Network, and FTP in both? Why do I access the CD-ROM in Services-Audio CD Browser and in Root Directory and Services-Devices? Home Media (devices:/ + audiocd:/ + supermount'ed devices) This Computer - -Entire filesystem (/) - -Windows Drives ( FAT32/NTFS drives ) - -printers Network - -SMB/Windows (smb:/) - -Unix (fish/nfs hosts from lisa or similar) - -Web (ftp/http hosts from lisa or similar?) - -Directory (ldap:/ ;-)) - -Bookmarks - -History ( Web history, for local history use panel recent documents entry ) I'd rather add under Windows drives ( on MAC it could be mac filesystem ). I would have moved Media directly under Home. This way the user have a distinction : - what i access the most and can go whenever I want - Home and Media - stuff i rarely need to access directly, should be avoid ( / ) or use with care ( FAT32, printers ). - network stuffs -- Il est absurde de
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
... cramfs Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output that is still just wild guess :( but it'll work... grep /proc/filesystems else not working. you can build initrd for 2.6 under 2.4 or other way round. or even out of miniroot. what about grep cramfs /boot/System.map-[KVER] ? I'd wish to use initramfs if I knew how to free space taken by it :( svetljo PS. have you got my last mails with the modified mkbuild.pl co ? have you tried them ? -- GMX Weihnachts-Special: Seychellen-Traumreise zu gewinnen! Rentier entlaufen. Finden Sie Rudolph! Als Belohnung winken tolle Preise. http://www.gmx.net/de/cgi/special/ +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:38:13 +0100 Oliver Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 348. I got the same. It does not, though, appear to affect the performance/operation of urpmi as it still works. Charles -- We are Microsoft. Unix is irrelevant. Openness is futile. Prepare to be assimilated. - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] Update Mirrors still not updated
Will somebody please fix this stuff? The mirrors are still not updated since the last security update. Why are advisories posted when the packages are not on the mirrors or mirrors are not updated? http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1370 -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6374] [Installation] New: 9.2 for AMD64, RC1 installation failure
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, [aseatanner] wrote: unable to handle Kernel paging request1 at 8010dbec RIP: [8010dbec] PML4 1f5e0067 PGD 0 oops: 0010 CPU 0 Pid: 0, comm: swapper not tainted RIP: 0010[8010dbec] RSP Try to boot with idle=poll I am using an AMD64 3200+ CPU, a Gigabyte GA-K8VNXP motherboard, and two sticks of Kingston KHX3200/512 memory. Note this is NOT the 3200A memory. We have demoed the distribution on a similar card at processor launch. Do you have latest BIOS installed?
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Show windows drives on desktop
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
Le lun 17/11/2003 à 13:52, Buchan Milne a écrit :
FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
Under KDE you can select the device icons you want to show ( see
Lookfeel - Comportment - device icons ). At this time we show
CDROm/NFS/SMB/Floppy/Zip icons. We should add FAT32/NTFS drives.
What is special about FAT32/NTFS? What if I want to see other
filesystems (where is my Redhat drive? Where is my SuSE drive etc etc???).
That is what Hard Disk is for.
Seeing others linux partitions is what i can call : advanced stuff - so
this should not be enable by default ( and hard disk will show them ).
So, we should make it easier to use Windows, and less easy to use Linux?
A normal user ( desktop environment ) should not see others linux
partitions except his home directory.
So, if they have a backup partition or something (easy enough to do with
diskdrake), they shouldn't be able to access it as easily as a Windows
partition?
So see / and /home on his desktop
is useless for him. Most of the times this kind of users put files in
their home directory and open/save some files in their windows
partitions in order to share them with windows. So they need to know
directly and easily where is their home directory ( the home icon ), and
where is/are their windows partition(s).
Showing FAT32/NTFS drives is what I called basic stuff for newbies. For
example, the user need to install the firmware for his modem to make the
connection work under linux, so he dl the firmware under windows and
then his first question is : Can i have an access to my windows drives ?
If yes, where can i access them ?
At least 5 times a week on a forum where you have many newbies we have
this kind of question. Mandrake control center ? they don't know or
don't know where to go ( MountPoint is chinese for them )
But they shouldn't need to even see diskdrake now (I assume that's what
you mean), they can either look in /mnt/windows, or /mnt/win_{c,d} etc,
or browse in devices (but it would be better if you didn't have to know
all 6 buttons in Konqueror to be able to browse devices).
This
way you can easily disable the icons. Gnome have this feature but only
for removable devices ( CDROM/Floppy )
On top of that windows partitions should be writable ( FAT32 only of
course ) by normal users ( so umask=0 should be set by default for
security level high ). So by default diskdrake set umask=0 for
windows
FAT32 partitions during install and when the user select a security
level higher than standard, then msec remove umask=0.
This is already the case AFAIK (last time I looked at the code). What
security level did you install with?
since which version ? I don't know for me as I don't install 9.2 on HD
where there was some FAT32 partitions, but on forum I have many times
users saying that they can't write on their windows partitions ( 9.1,
maybe 9.2 but will have to check ) at least if they was able to find
where was their windows partitions.
Look in CVS, file libDrakX/fs.pm (line 468 in cooker)
if (isFat($part) || member('vfat', split(':', $part-{type})) ||
isThisFs('auto', $part)) {
put_in_hash($options, {
user = 1, noexec = 0,
}) if $opts{is_removable};
put_in_hash($options, {
'umask=0' = $opts{security} 3,
'iocharset=' = $opts{iocharset}, 'codepage=' = $opts{codepage},
});
}
So, users who want this by default should install in the less secure
option. Of course, a better description should be given for umask=0 in
the diskdrake options.
I would like to see this one also. But, will there be any risk, such
as, users
could accidently delete stuff from their winbloze partition?
So ? under windows they can do it too. On top of that now most of the
time under kde/gnome when you delete a file, by default the file is put
in the trash, unless you specify directly delete and you have a
confirmation box. So the risk is minimal.
But, OS's that default to fat32 are usually not multi-user, so it does
increase the risk IMHO.
I'm talking for home/desktop usage. in multiuser/workstation usage, the
sysadmin have the responsibility to enable/disable this feature. Now for
desktop/home usage when several people have access to the computer the
problem is Linux/unix rights limitations ( need ACL and easy way to
managed ACL ) or need away to specify that this group and only this
group of users can access theses drives.
The problem is that as soon as the user has a daemon running (ftp,
apache), they *are* multi-user. Whether it is real users or not is
irrelevant.
Anyway, I don't think this problem should be solved in diskdrake or
anything else. The problem is (IMHO) due to shortcomings of the KDE
navigation tree (and the fact that GNOME doesn't really have one at all
yet). I have posted on this before. IMHO, the different
[Cooker] [Bug 6266] [bootsplash] rewritejpeg can't rewrite grayscale jpeg pictures
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6266 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-17 11:09 --- Included in CVS -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: When jpegtopnm converts a grayscale jpeg picture, this output is a PGM file while the script need a PPM file. I've made a patch that detects the type of this output and use pgmtoppm if needed to have a TrueColor picture. Grayscale jpeg pictures can be obtained with convert when the original picture has only gray pixels. In this case, the real fix is to use convert -type TrueColor But it's nice to support this in rewritejpeg too.
Re: [Cooker] juk contrib rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 November 2003 03:43 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. November 2003, 00:30:20 Uhr MET, schrieb illogic-al: i know the 3.2 version is there but this is for 3.1. it could always be made to conflict w/ the beta version and removed at install. but i was thinking to make it available for people not on cooker but in contrib sources That's not a good idea, as the contribs are always synched to the current cooker. The Mandrake club repository is the right place for your package. now the question is, just how would i do that? - -- for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uPkhtKCOnVHrR7QRAvQXAJ9y4ZkvnNWDkLAonj/HGQrJ+CZo6wCgnwg5 FOb8dEZnXHG4q1Y6Ff6S4pY= =7VZo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 November 2003 06:16 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:38:13 +0100 Oliver Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 348. I got the same. It does not, though, appear to affect the performance/operation of urpmi as it still works. Charles urpmi no longer likes my jpackage and ignores it. Was working fine until upgrade of perl-URPMI. - -- Registered Linux user 193414 http://counter.li.org Trying? My contribution was much closer to a feeble wave in the general direction of something that might lead you one step closer to a solution if you squint really hard and do all of the work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uPu0ZkF4+BJ00wcRAhXyAKCOcnPOCh1dT0QsL7vrFn9vkRhk1QCgsdU6 d+MLTrRJnLkdZnhmEkhl1Mg= =mEK0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Re: kronolith or php-pear RPM in 9.2 Contribs missing php-pear Date module
This is better to discuss here... Ainsi parlait Colin Guthrie : Guillaume Rousse wrote: So it seems to be a packaging problem with the pear package, right ? I just had a look at the package, but i'm not php fluent enough to fix it, so i prefer to let its maintainer fix it. I guess it looks that way! There may have been a decision to stop including the Date code, perhaps PHP's own built in functions superceeded them at somepoint. I'll do a little digging and see if I can find out, otherwise, I'll talk to the maintainer and see what I can work out. Perhaps I'll redo the package myself and pass it on to him. However I was quite surprised to see this package doesn't carry its sources, but fetch them at buildtime. This break general packaging practice, and prevent offline building, so i don't see the point. Yeah, this does seem a little odd. I agree that it should not download them at build time (admitidly it's not technically building anything, seeing as this is PHP!!) for offline building. That said, with PHP, you're generally doing web stuff and are usually online, but this is still breaking the good practice rules! BTW, the url should also be changed to http://pear.php.net Cool. I'll have a fiddle myself and see what I can do. All the best. Col. -- ++ | Colin Guthrie | ++ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://colin.guthr.ie/ | ++ If at first you don't succeed, try management. -- All vacations and holidays create problems, except for one's own -- Murphy's Laws on Work n°34
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 November 2003 07:21 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Harijs Buss wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you have mdkkdm. Use Mandrake Control Center-Hardware-Login Manager (or similar) to change this. (This is a change from 9.0-9.1) Nope. Look, Buchan, even you didn't remember it right; Actually I do, that is the way it is on 9.1 ;-). what to speak about us mortals... For some unknown reason the way how to do this is Mandrake Control Center - System - Choose the Display Manager. Why this Login Window is called Display Manager there, is beyond my understanding. Technically, that is the correct term. KDE's terminology is wrong (and why do they call it kdm and not klm?). But the user doesn't care about technicalities, they care about things working how they expect. They would expect it to be named the same in both places. - -- for a good time see www.I-Kubed.Org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uPtFtKCOnVHrR7QRAlJ7AJ0YSkqrVAJ3OYjOhiiJfPtwQKYSnwCgiHZy 6FSQjO9HG03Q7vQ71ZpConc= =I/7T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] ATI Radeon Serious bug present in 9.2 final - updated
i tryed reconfiguring x using xf86configthe result: i still have the 1400x1050 resolution but my desktop veiwale area came done to 1024x768its as if i am zoming down but with larger desktop... below is xrande output. can some on help?? == xrandr SZ:Pixels Physical Refresh *0 1400 x 1050 ( 474mm x 356mm ) *60 Current rotation - normal Current reflection - none Rotations possible - normal Reflections possible - non === Hi all, I have the ATI Radeon Mobility 7500, when I start mandrake the first time in display with the resolution of 1152x864 I think because the screen appears vary large and every thing such as icons and font is vary small Even if I change the resolution to 1024x768 using the xfdrack using the mandracke control center, the resolution never changes. I tried all Radeon drivers that come with the downloadable version of mandrake 9.2, named Radeon, Radeon fbdev and the Radeon fglrx, with no avail. I even tried the mandrake-enhanced kernel for ATI with the mandrake ATI drivers the commercial rpms, with no hope. I also tried the ATI drivers even though they are for the 8000 series and that did not work to. Note that it was working in previous versions of mandrake and I encountered the same bug in the candidate release and I did report it at that time. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] bookcase-0.7-1mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles A Edwards wrote: [Contrib-RPM] -=-=-=- Name: bookcase Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.7 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Mon Nov 17 17:07:24 2003 Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group : OfficeSource RPM: (none) Size: 784140 License: GPL Signature : (none) Packager: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.periapsis.org/bookcase/ Summary : A book collection manager Description : -=-=-=- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.7-1mdk - 0.7 - add marco iconname - use /bin/true - add BuildRequire ImageMagick and use for icons - add feature list - use make marco - no need to mkdir /pics it's auto done - use kdedesktop2mdkmenu for menu - rm man listing as it does not exist - use %doc %dir for HTML listing Weird, I updated this about two weeks ago, I guess the upload didn't make it. BTW, 0.7.0 has some bug (encoding issues), the author suggests 0.7.1 (which I haven't managed to get to yet, todo list is too long ...). http://www.periapsis.org/bookcase/download/bookcase-0.7.1.tar.gz Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uP1zrJK6UGDSBKcRAsi7AKCxNr34V061z7RM7XDMwadnE3JI8gCdFVbg jT0ozgp0jxiChdwV1bUDw6M= =PAeX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] jamin?
måndagen den 17 november 2003 15.48 skrev Austin: On 11/16/2003 11:42:34 AM, Oden Eriksson wrote: Something for Austin: http://jamin.sourceforge.net/ I've been working on it for a while. Thanks, Austin Cool!. Looking forward to try it out (from your possible future cooker package).
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:16, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:38:13 +0100 Oliver Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.2/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 348. I got the same. It does not, though, appear to affect the performance/operation of urpmi as it still works. It does. After running urpmi.update I end up with NO hdlist in /var/lib/urpmi. -- Oliver Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on FTP and let the rest of the world mirror it. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [Cooker] juk contrib rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 illogic-al wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 03:43 am, Götz Waschk wrote: That's not a good idea, as the contribs are always synched to the current cooker. The Mandrake club repository is the right place for your package. now the question is, just how would i do that? Answered on a more appropriate list. - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uQSZrJK6UGDSBKcRAtDPAJ4ueeAUscVHeARqljTdsMfB04nNBgCfbjoL b6REbQ1Z58hTv8aORy02bbg= =RKss -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] clean /usr/share/icons
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:27, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le lun 17/11/2003 à 09:18, Frederic Crozat a écrit : On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:22:48 +, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: /usr/share/icons at this time is a total mess ! Indeed, at the same time you have : - kde icons themes - gnome icons themes - XFree cursors In case you didn't knew, GNOME and KDE are now starting to use a common specification to share icons (http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/icon-theme-spec). But since everything is not done yet, there are problems. And doing symlinks will not help the situation. I think you should read the spec and fill bugs on bugs.kde.org and bugzilla.gnome.org where you find problems for both environments. !!! I'm sure that there are at least 20 icons in one size with the wrong name. Ok i will do it, but for a folder/directory, what's the right name ? folder.png ( KDE ) ? directory.png ? gnome-fs-directory.png ( Gnome ) ? I read the spec, they talk about the index.theme ( ok, it's present ), but they don't give a list of standard icons name ( name for folder, home directory, nfs/smb directory, floppy device, HD device, DVD device, ... ) at least for filesystem and devices. We should have standard names and freedesktop.org should give the list of theses standard names : so a theme could be use without modification between both desktop and supplementary icons ( desktop specific ) could be safely ignored by a DE. So If I don't know the right name that an icon should have, how can i konw that this is kde or gnome bug ? and how icon designer could know wich name to give to their icons ? I tried to come up with a standard for at least some common icon names when making the standard. Unfortunately I failed (a lot of people didn't seem to understand the need for such a thing), so now everything is fucked up. I don't expect fixing this will be easy by now, since these names are used in stable releases of both kde and gnome. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander LarssonRed Hat, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] He's a suicidal devious werewolf on the wrong side of the law. She's a cynical junkie archaeologist on her way to prison for a murder she didn't commit. They fight crime!
Re: [Cooker] Re: kronolith or php-pear RPM in 9.2 Contribs missing php-pear Date module
måndagen den 17 november 2003 17.47 skrev Guillaume Rousse: This is better to discuss here... Ainsi parlait Colin Guthrie : Guillaume Rousse wrote: So it seems to be a packaging problem with the pear package, right ? I just had a look at the package, but i'm not php fluent enough to fix it, so i prefer to let its maintainer fix it. I guess it looks that way! There may have been a decision to stop including the Date code, perhaps PHP's own built in functions superceeded them at somepoint. I'll do a little digging and see if I can find out, otherwise, I'll talk to the maintainer and see what I can work out. Perhaps I'll redo the package myself and pass it on to him. I admit I know nothing about pear. I have checked how PLD is doing it, and their list is about 180 php-pear-* packages. Is this the way to do it? I know this is not the answer to your question, but I have to ask this question anyhow. I personally don't know how to fix the problems reported with the php-pear package. Maybe J-M Dault knows? Or some other PHP guru? I'm just a silly packager anyhow...
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:58:17 +0100 (MET) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it didn't worked, but it works with the debian's mkinitrd I'll have a look, thanks :) LFS's mkinitrd is a good reference too. have you missed that cramfs is readonly ? we actually are missing /dev/root as mkrootdev /dev/root fails -- read only fs but it probably needs quite deeper changes Yes, I missed that, sorry about that :-/ It was a bit tired, I haven't even slept an hour last night ... -- Olivier Blin
[Cooker] Re: Update Mirrors still not updated
On Nov 17, 2003, at 08:18, Greg Meyer wrote:
Will somebody please fix this stuff? The mirrors are still not
updated since
the last security update. Why are advisories posted when the packages
are
not on the mirrors or mirrors are not updated?
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1370
After getting someone to check, the updates are on the primary master
that the mirrors sync from, so this could be a side-effect of the 9.2
ISOs being released.
Everything is ok on our end, so there isn't a lot we can do if the
mirrors are passing around the ISOs and that's preventing the updates
from coming down the pipe as quickly as usual.
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Re: [Cooker] spamassassin broken - an easy fix?
måndagen den 17 november 2003 11.50 skrev Frederic Crozat: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:42:32 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 10.20 skrev Frederic Crozat: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 02:22:06 +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote: måndagen den 17 november 2003 00.44 skrev Gilles Mocellin: Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 20:37, Vincent Meyer, MD a écrit : Hello, It appears that the first line of the spamassassin script is using the wrong version of perl. Editing it to the current version allows this to run fine. Did I miss an update? or does this need to be repackaged? Works for me too, ah :-) Fixed with spamassassin-2.60-4mdk Thanks but I'll fix it properly in -5mdk (by not using version-dependent perl in #!) Ahh, smart. This is quite common, maybe this should be done on a larger scale? Probably.. Pixel told me it was ugly to use version for perl call so I follow Perl guru advice :) So..., who will have to carry the cross of rebuilding the needed packages? I will not do it. The one that do it (a mandrakee), but only for main _has_ to share the auto-magic to a person willing to do it for contribs. Chears.
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
On Monday 17 November 2003 18:59, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: ... cramfs Should I make it an option in mkinitrd ? I guess yes. But this is compatibility problem. It is not supported on vanilla kernel so you have to detect patched kernel somehow. And how are you going to do it? You will get a flood of bug reports from users who compiled their own kernels (vanilla ones or whatever) and cannot load initrd. just check for /mdk/ and ! /custom/ in uname -r output that is still just wild guess :( but it'll work... grep /proc/filesystems else not working. you can build initrd for 2.6 under 2.4 or other way round. or even out of miniroot. what about grep cramfs /boot/System.map-[KVER] ? at least make it depend on CONFIG_CRAMFS_INITRD. it is not that crmafs is available but that it is used for initrd. but if it is really read-only, our initrd needs some tweaking indeed have you got my last mails with the modified mkbuild.pl co ? yes have you tried them ? no :)
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6374] [Installation] 9.2 for AMD64, RC1 installation failure
Hi, (beginning of error messages) error in exec of Stage 2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume the following fatal error occurred FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: I/O error I can't recover from this. you may reboot your system. ---(end of error messages)- Do you have more information on the 3rd or so console (Alt-F3)? Is this specific to Mandrake Linux in both 32-bit 64-bit versions?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:17:36 +0100 Oliver Lemke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does. After running urpmi.update I end up with NO hdlist in /var/lib/urpmi. I can not use the alias which I normally do because of the perl error but the plf.hdlist and synthesis.hdlist I use for main and contrib are still updates and I can install using --auto-select. I mean the error needs to be addressed and corrected but it is possible that there are additional causes for the behaviour on your system. I have updated perl-URPM on 3 systems and on all urpmi still performs as noted. Charles -- Think big. Pollute the Mississippi. - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon Kernel-2.4.22-21.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: måndagen den 17 november 2003 13.11 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding the tooltip? Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget. Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB stuff, I guess. I tried to explain that this is simply not the case, did you check the link There is no tooltip, yes, and I suggest to add one :). below? Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is about. I'm of course talking for users. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] unable to use bewan drivers with 2.4.22-10mdk
Ainsi parlait Guillaume Rousse : Using latest bewan drivers release (7.4), the modules build correctly, but fails to install as depmod reports unresolved symbols. It works OK with 2.4.21-0.13mdk however. New problem today: the set of unresolved symbols changed. The only change was to remove the PCI card, as i need to keep it on the old gateway until i succeed building the drivers on the new one. Now it looks for unversioned symbols, whereas the default mdk kernel uses versioned ones... depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/atm/unicorn_pci_atm.o depmod: pci_write_config_byte depmod: send_sig depmod: flush_signals depmod: schedule_timeout depmod: __wake_up depmod: __kfree_skb depmod: alloc_skb depmod: __generic_copy_from_user depmod: vsprintf depmod: kmalloc depmod: pci_free_consistent depmod: pci_enable_device depmod: pci_disable_device depmod: boot_cpu_data depmod: cpu_raise_softirq depmod: pcibios_present depmod: pidhash depmod: free_irq depmod: __out_of_line_bug depmod: get_random_bytes depmod: iounmap depmod: pci_alloc_consistent depmod: interruptible_sleep_on_timeout depmod: __ioremap depmod: del_timer depmod: atm_charge depmod: mod_timer depmod: pci_release_regions depmod: kfree depmod: ___pskb_trim depmod: request_irq depmod: __verify_write depmod: exit_files depmod: skb_over_panic depmod: pci_set_master depmod: xtime depmod: pci_find_device depmod: sprintf depmod: daemonize depmod: jiffies depmod: softnet_data depmod: printk depmod: atm_dev_register depmod: add_timer depmod: complete_and_exit depmod: irq_stat depmod: shutdown_atm_dev depmod: kernel_thread depmod: __const_udelay depmod: __generic_copy_to_user depmod: pci_request_regions depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/atm/unicorn_usb_atm.o depmod: send_sig depmod: flush_signals depmod: schedule_timeout depmod: usb_ifnum_to_if depmod: __wake_up depmod: __kfree_skb depmod: alloc_skb depmod: __generic_copy_from_user depmod: vsprintf depmod: kmalloc depmod: usb_deregister depmod: boot_cpu_data depmod: cpu_raise_softirq depmod: pidhash depmod: usb_free_urb depmod: __out_of_line_bug depmod: get_random_bytes depmod: interruptible_sleep_on_timeout depmod: usb_alloc_urb depmod: usb_register depmod: del_timer depmod: atm_charge depmod: usb_set_configuration depmod: mod_timer depmod: kfree depmod: ___pskb_trim depmod: usb_string depmod: __verify_write depmod: exit_files depmod: skb_over_panic depmod: xtime depmod: usb_submit_urb depmod: usb_control_msg depmod: sprintf depmod: usb_get_current_frame_number depmod: daemonize depmod: jiffies depmod: timer_int_counter depmod: softnet_data depmod: printk depmod: atm_dev_register depmod: add_timer depmod: complete_and_exit depmod: irq_stat depmod: shutdown_atm_dev depmod: kernel_thread depmod: __const_udelay depmod: usb_set_interface depmod: __generic_copy_to_user depmod: usb_unlink_urb depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/net/unicorn_pci_eth.o depmod: pci_write_config_byte depmod: send_sig depmod: flush_signals depmod: eth_type_trans depmod: schedule_timeout depmod: __wake_up depmod: __kfree_skb depmod: alloc_skb depmod: __generic_copy_from_user depmod: pskb_expand_head depmod: vsprintf depmod: skb_under_panic depmod: kmalloc depmod: pci_free_consistent depmod: pci_enable_device depmod: create_proc_entry depmod: alloc_etherdev depmod: pci_disable_device depmod: cpu_raise_softirq depmod: pcibios_present depmod: pidhash depmod: free_irq depmod: unregister_netdev depmod: __out_of_line_bug depmod: get_random_bytes depmod: iounmap depmod: pci_alloc_consistent depmod: interruptible_sleep_on_timeout depmod: __ioremap depmod: proc_mkdir depmod: del_timer depmod: register_netdev depmod: mod_timer depmod: pci_release_regions depmod: kfree depmod: ___pskb_trim depmod: remove_proc_entry depmod: request_irq
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6374] [Installation] 9.2 for AMD64, RC1 installation failure
Gwenole Beauchesne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, (beginning of error messages) error in exec of Stage 2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume the following fatal error occurred FATAL ERROR IN STAGE1: I/O error I can't recover from this. you may reboot your system. ---(end of error messages)- Do you have more information on the 3rd or so console (Alt-F3)? Is this specific to Mandrake Linux in both 32-bit 64-bit versions? And on console 4 (Alt-F4), kernel messages might explain the origin of the IO error, might have problems with CDROM reading. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:22:10 +0300 Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at least make it depend on CONFIG_CRAMFS_INITRD. it is not that crmafs is available but that it is used for initrd. but if it is really read-only, our initrd needs some tweaking indeed What's this CONFIG_CRAMFS_INITRD option ? I can't find it. To build a cramfs initrd, you may have a look at Debian's mkinitrd and linuxrc, there's available here : http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/initrd-tools/initrd-tools_0.1.55.tar.gz I'm working on our linuxrc to be able to use cramfs. I've already made a patch to support cramfs in our mkinitrd, it should be a matter of hours now. Regards -- Olivier Blin
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:01:01PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:58:17 +0100 (MET) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it didn't worked, but it works with the debian's mkinitrd I'll have a look, thanks :) LFS's mkinitrd is a good reference too. have you missed that cramfs is readonly ? we actually are missing /dev/root as mkrootdev /dev/root fails -- read only fs but it probably needs quite deeper changes Yes, I missed that, sorry about that :-/ It was a bit tired, I haven't even slept an hour last night ... will someone hear me please. i posted about the same issue last time we spoke about replacing initrd fs. you need a writable dev! for devfs this is easy without devfs it is not! if you use 2.4 with LVM1 you also need a writable /etc (this requrement can be lifted with LVM2, i believe) I am trying to find a way around it, probably my mkinitrd which already creates device nodes on the fly has only to be slightly tuned: mount a tmpfs on /dev and create the nodes i forgot about. I will try to add cramfs/tmpfs support if someone kindly notices the fact i am doing it, if this stuff is not scheduled to be merged sometimes then i will not bother. L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:59:24PM +0200, Harijs Buss wrote: I have all the time this strange feeling that Mandrake could do even much better with such a minimum of CRM efforts... Hope it will happen soon ;-) CRM == Customer Relationship Management??? I don't know if that is such an important matter, compared to some other problems Mandrake has (not talking about the financial matters, even) I think your analysis about the confusion in terminology and functionality in Mandrake is quite accurate (unfortunately). It is such a shame that MDK doesn't have the financial resources yet (I assume) to hire some experienced software quality management people to guide the well meant efforts of the internal and external developers to be more efficient in reaching a well oiled distribution making team. (I'm not implying that I know better, I just know enough to notice the lack of oil and lack of clear priorities.) For me I'd say these were the priorities I'd like to see: - work on almost any hardware or say it won't work during install. (I'm not talking about LG's faults) - Consistent configuration and hardware management tools - have one well tested desktop management system (KDE) that doesn't show any obvious flaws noticable by average users - make sure basic applications are thoroughly tested for quality, stability and performance - security updates and installation sources are stable Everything else is of course very important too, but when the basics are more stable, the whole system is more tolerant for whatever else gets installed. [/rant] ;-) Simon
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:29, Charles A Edwards wrote: I can not use the alias which I normally do because of the perl error but the plf.hdlist and synthesis.hdlist I use for main and contrib are still updates and I can install using --auto-select. I mean the error needs to be addressed and corrected but it is possible that there are additional causes for the behaviour on your system. I have updated perl-URPM on 3 systems and on all urpmi still performs as noted. Ok, right. I should mention that I'm not using the synthesis file from cooker/contrib tree. Before urpmi.addmedia I deleted the synthesis.hdlist coming from the mirror tree to force urpmi to build its own. This ensures that urpmi's hdlist always matches the packages I really have on my local mirror. Otherwise, it often happens that the synthesis file is not in sync with the packages because of mirror problems. This ends up in complains from urpmi --auto-select about not available rpms. Another advantages is a working urpmf as it requires a 'real' hdlist (not synthesis). -- Oliver
Re: [Cooker] Re: kronolith or php-pear RPM in 9.2 Contribs missing php-pear Date module
Oden Eriksson wrote: I admit I know nothing about pear. I have checked how PLD is doing it, and their list is about 180 php-pear-* packages. Is this the way to do it? I started a php script some time ago (last chrismas ?)to build a mandrake rpm from a pear package name (quite simple as a package is well described, with dependencies, test files, ...). That would generate a lot of packages so they couldn't be tested manually, so the script would have to automaticallay run the test programs. This could be done quite easily as pear has a command run-tests to run the regression tests. I didn't finish because not many people looked interested. The point is to decide if this is usefull as pear already has commands to install/update packages.
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:01:01PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:58:17 +0100 (MET) Svetoslav Slavtchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it didn't worked, but it works with the debian's mkinitrd I'll have a look, thanks :) LFS's mkinitrd is a good reference too. have you missed that cramfs is readonly ? we actually are missing /dev/root as mkrootdev /dev/root fails -- read only fs but it probably needs quite deeper changes Yes, I missed that, sorry about that :-/ It was a bit tired, I haven't even slept an hour last night ... will someone hear me please. i posted about the same issue last time we spoke about replacing initrd fs. you need a writable dev! for devfs this is easy without devfs it is not! if you use 2.4 with LVM1 you also need a writable /etc (this requrement can be lifted with LVM2, i believe) I am trying to find a way around it, probably my mkinitrd which already creates device nodes on the fly has only to be slightly tuned: mount a tmpfs on /dev and create the nodes i forgot about. I will try to add cramfs/tmpfs support if someone kindly notices the fact i am doing it, if this stuff is not scheduled to be merged sometimes then i will not bother. i'll be happy to test, but sadly i can not help to get it merged :( we'll probably have to keep support for lvm1, couldn't we mount tmpfs on /etc in the initrd svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
[Cooker] E17 seems to be broken ?
Hello, I've just discovered that e17 is available on cooker. I tried it and it segfaults because of libevas1. Am i alone in this case ? Thanks. Pierre -- Pierre BETOUIN http://securitech.homeunix.org http://www.challenge-securitech.com GnuPG key : lynx -dump securitech.homeunix.org/pbetouin.asc | gpg --import signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?=
Re: [Cooker] Re: kronolith or php-pear RPM in 9.2 Contribs missing php-pear Date module
Ainsi parlait Pascal Terjan : The point is to decide if this is usefull as pear already has commands to install/update packages. It is. We want a single packaging system, not one per language (perl, php, etc...). -- Guillaume Rousse You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard -- Murphy's Laws on Work n°4
Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
On 17 Nov 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: måndagen den 17 november 2003 13.11 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding the tooltip? Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget. Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB stuff, I guess. I tried to explain that this is simply not the case, did you check the link There is no tooltip, yes, and I suggest to add one :). below? Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is about. I'm of course talking for users. Gc, I am afraid people try to get you to understand that there is no button to press. So no place for a tooltip to appear. There is no mouse pointer above an action widget. You just press A with the keyboard and the status window of xmms displays A. It doesn't make much sense to add a tooltip if you would go and over above the A (I even think it very hard to do that at all since given the way the status window works) since it it not meant to be clicked on. d.
Re: [Cooker] Re: status of cramfs initrd in 2.6
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:29:45 +0100 Luca Berra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will someone hear me please. i posted about the same issue last time we spoke about replacing initrd fs. you need a writable dev! for devfs this is easy without devfs it is not! By the way, what should we do about devfs ? It is deprecated, but is there any working alternative yet ? udev needs userspace tools IIRC. if you use 2.4 with LVM1 you also need a writable /etc (this requrement can be lifted with LVM2, i believe) I am trying to find a way around it, probably my mkinitrd which already creates device nodes on the fly has only to be slightly tuned: mount a tmpfs on /dev and create the nodes i forgot about. I will try to add cramfs/tmpfs support if someone kindly notices the fact i am doing it, if this stuff is not scheduled to be merged sometimes then i will not bother. Okay, I let you do it :) It would be a good start to have a look at Debian's linuxrc and mkinitrd, since they use exactly what you want to do. http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/initrd-tools/initrd-tools_0.1.55.tar.gz It was about to patch our linuxrc, but if you wanna do it, you're welcome :) Can you have a look at the mkinitrd/make-initrd patches I've begun ? Thanks -- Olivier Blin
[Cooker] gwenview-1.0.0-0.pre4.1mdk
Hi, I uploaded on ftp://ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming/ gwenview-1.0.0-0.pre4.1mdk.src.rpm enjoy it Angelo __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: [Cooker] xmms-1.2.7-26mdk
måndagen den 17 november 2003 20.12 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: måndagen den 17 november 2003 13.11 skrev Guillaume Cottenceau: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, I think it should have a tooltip explaining what it is, as it's rather obscure to normal people. Would you consider adding the tooltip? Where should this tooltip be located? There is no visual stuff until you press Well, erhm, a tooltip is a widget that appears automatically when you don't move for 2 seconds on a (typically, action) widget. Thus it should appear when one leave mouse pointer on the AB stuff, I guess. I tried to explain that this is simply not the case, did you check the link There is no tooltip, yes, and I suggest to add one :). below? Yes but I don't need an explanation for me, I know what AB is about. I'm of course talking for users. So..., what do you propose? Either there is a tooltip, or you will not accept the patch? Come on man, give me a break... You can demand a pretty ab button for all skins, and all of the C/C++ code you may have, as much as you like, I won't give you one, sorry... PS. What about the zillions of undocumented Mandrake features? Who will make silly tooltips for those? Or better, try _DOCUMENT_ them? Chears.
Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test9 config
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i've uploaded your work. hotplug is maintained by fredl. good he has been silent wrt initscirpts as well. I hope he's not following fpons ... Heu ? I see everything (provided you are talking about me ;-)) Francois.
Re: [Cooker] E17 seems to be broken ?
I've just discovered that e17 is available on cooker. I tried it and it segfaults because of libevas1. Am i alone in this case ? Thanks. I tried a while ago on my old 9.1 and get it working, but with many errors, hangs and so on...it was unusable. But I don't know if it was just a problem of the e17 from cooker, because I'd played around with some version from different sources, with different libs etc...so it could also be just a problem of unclean installing on my system, on 9.2 I don't try yet, it's my working-system... bye Friedrich pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] kdevelop requires
Hi I don't know if you saw on the list but I asked if the kdevelop requires on gimp could be dropped as it is not actually needed by kdevelop, if its not there kdevelop still works it just tries to add kpaint to the tools list instead (and if thats not there then nothing), it also works just as well with gimp-1.3 as long as the /usr/bin/gimp exec is there. Cheers cris.
[Cooker] [Bug 2971] [speedtouch] error running script speedtouch.sh
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2971 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #966 is|0 |1 obsolete|| --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-17 12:17 --- Created an attachment (id=972) -- (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=972action=view) patch from attachment #966 maybe could you remove some uneeded echo ? you also lost a sleep which may be usefull. last but not least, you increased verbosity. is this needed ? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: /usr/share/speedtouch/speedtouch.sh stop returns this: Shutting down ADSL connection:usbcore: Device or resource busy [ECHEC ]
Re: [Cooker] User says MDK 9.2 is a backward step and requests features
Wow, nice to see somebody from Twente NL, from Debian stronghold ;-) On Monday 17 November 2003 21:31, Simon Oosthoek wrote: CRM == Customer Relationship Management??? Yes. I don't know if that is such an important matter, compared to some other problems Mandrake has (not talking about the financial matters, even) Part of CRM is to find out what drives customer loyalty and satisfaction and use the model to maintain and improve business. This what Deno did even not being CRM specialist, simply because he could intuitively deeply feel such things. Unfortunately Deno is back in Vienna and not anymore with Mandrake. (Big mistake in my opinion...) We all feel absence of Deno because there is no sufficient replacement in company (with all regards to people working there). For example, in Deno times it probably would not be possible to have _all_ mirror definitions for urpmi on club www pages *broken* for such a long time as it is now. For me I'd say these were the priorities I'd like to see: - work on almost any hardware or say it won't work during install. (I'm not talking about LG's faults) I cannot worry about that with Mandrake. I think that hardware recognition and use is one of strong aspects of Mandrake Linux. LG scandal is IMHO simply bad luck - shit happens as we all know. Nobody can test all combinations of hardware components. After all LG has agreed it's their fault, and these dead drives are quite easily repairable. (I have one too :) Otherwise I have sometimes wondered what strange hardware zoo combinations are nevertheless correctly recognized by Mandrake installation. Well, I normally use PowerPack which has more drivers than download edition. - Consistent configuration and hardware management tools These things get really better from version to version, except some quick decisions like with kdm... - have one well tested desktop management system (KDE) that doesn't show any obvious flaws noticable by average users Now this depends mostly from KDE people ;-) I do not know who is to blame about disappearing KDE 3.1.3 menus in MDK 9.2, but this is *major* source of disappointment and certainly very annoying behavior. At the moment my KDE has stopped to display active programs on tasklist, despite all checkmarks correct in KDE Control Center... sigh. - make sure basic applications are thoroughly tested for quality, stability and performance Agree. That would be Good Thing. However good QC is expensive. Total QC is unreachable even for very big companies because of almost unpredictable human side of interaction with these applications. (Somehow I often manage to get very strange crashes and errors on windows machines I sometimes have to use at work... ;-) However, basic level of QC should involve at least confidence that all apps can be launched and start to work. My 4-year old grandson discovered yesterday that TuxRacer doesn't work anymore (in 9.2 with all current updates) and was very, very sad about that. Thanks God that at least Frozen Bubble was still OK ;-) - security updates and installation sources are stable Agree. At least there _are_ security updates for Mandrake and they are mostly available. At least after some delay after e-mail announcing them... Everything else is of course very important too, but when the basics are more stable, the whole system is more tolerant for whatever else gets installed. Let it be, let it be... :-) Harijs
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] perl-URPM-0.94-8mdk
Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Found why:
@idlist = @{$options{idlist}} 0 ? @{$options{idlist}} : # Here the bad
line
($options{start} || 0 .. $options{end} || $#{$urpm-{depslist}});
@idlist or return;
I will try to fix this evening if fpons don't.
The problem is @{$options{idlist}} which is only valid if idlist is a reference
to list (even empty)...
It's my error, I should have seen this bad code ;-)
A new perl-URPM is uploaded.
Francois.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Problems booting with ext3 for root partition
Finally a kernel that boots with initrd and ext3 as a module: 2.4.22.25mdk. Thanks, no noinitrd kernel option needed anymore! On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:46, Stew Benedict wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Duncan wrote: Svante Signell posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:12:23 +0100: The long thread on 'kernel 23mdk panic' seems to be related to my problem. Has anyone made a summary of conclusions made so far? Which kernels are known to boot properly, with and without initrd? I compile my own kernel from kernel.org sources, so haven't been following this real closely, but AFAIK, any of the Mdk kernels work if ext3 support is compiled directly into the kernel, rather than as a module. I haven't been following it closely enough to know which kernels work with ext3 as a module. with or without user recompilation. That's not the whole story: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ /sbin/lsmod | tail -2 ext3 60048 2 jbd39296 2 [ext3] [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ uname -r 2.4.22-23mdk / is ext3, booting with an initrd single disk, / is hda5, no /boot partition, devfsd=nomount (for LSB) Works for some folks, not others.
Re: [Cooker] clock applet crashes (Sig 11) KDE panel
El lun, 17-11-2003 a las 13:35, Robert Fox escribi: With the mose recent update to QT and KDELibs (3.1.93-17mdk) - every time I start KDE I immediately get an error for the clock applet on the kicker panel - and then a SIG 11. Thx, R.Fox Same here. After crash, clock applet starts normally. -- M. Ignacio Monge Garca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] Gnome+metacity+msec problems?
Hopefully someone has answers to my questions: 1. How to disable metacity and start sawfish instead, I've seen something like: killall metacity; sleep 5; sawfish, but this does not work. Any hints? 2. Starting gnome+metacity takes forever and leaving gnome takes even longer time. Also all xterms and gnome-terminals pop up when started or from saved state but no prompt appear :( On the maximum I can get one xterm and sometimes one gnome-terminal to use on the whole desktop! I suppose the problem is the access setup to the applications and suspect msec. Currently my msec level is 3. Very annoying indeeed. 3. Disk access seems to be extremely slow on my Linux HDD (/dev/hdb). The first HDD (/dev/hda) has W98 installed and is slower than the second HDD. DMA is enabled and several hdparm settings have been tried, with limited success. I know the fastest HDD should be the boot disk, but this requires some changes of the disks and the boot configurations. How much is the performance hit for this configuration. The second disk is maybe 50-100% faster than the first. Anyway, for example when installing new software with urpmi and rpm, the access to other applications is _very_ sluggish, the system almost stops. Any ideas?
[Cooker] Re: unable to use bewan drivers with 2.4.22-10mdk
guillaume == Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: guillaume Ainsi parlait Guillaume Rousse : Using latest bewan drivers release (7.4), the modules build correctly, but fails to install as depmod reports unresolved symbols. It works OK with 2.4.21-0.13mdk however. guillaume New problem today: the set of unresolved symbols changed. The only change was guillaume to remove the PCI card, as i need to keep it on the old gateway until i guillaume succeed building the drivers on the new one. Now it looks for unversioned guillaume symbols, whereas the default mdk kernel uses versioned ones... -EENOUGHINFO. It appears that your are compiling your drivers agaist a wrong source for some reason. Can you give one address for the drivers, please? Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
