Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On 10/13/13 17:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Apparently that won't solve much. The primary issue now with watching flash movies is the drm - on linux it somehow uses hal and dbus, on windows it uses the registry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adoble Flash troubles on 9.2-RELEASE
On 10/12/13 20:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 11:52 +0200, David Demelier wrote: I don't like much chrome but I'll give a try to see. +1 It's not a browser I like. Since I'm using my computer for audio production my FreeBSD isn't maintained, I need to use Linux, so I don't know if Chrome is available for FreeBSD. When I google (resp. startpage.com search) for FreeBSD and Chrome, it seems to be that the hits aren't about Chrome, but Chromium instead. Chromium doesn't include Adobe Flash, https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome . Sorry for the noise. At least we could use Adobe Flash by Chrome with FreeBSD in a virtual machine running a Linux instead of a Windows guest. Or is Chrome available for FreeBSD too? Perhaps you should post the links that don't work with the latest Linux version of Adobe Flash, so others could test if the issue is really caused by Flash Player and not by something else. To add more confusion to this fray, although it may not help with gray screen issue, the only reason chromium works (yes, just install the nspluginwrapper as per the handbook) is that it is better suited to the new pepper style Adobe is going with now. FWIW, I did put in a port to fix drm issues on any site which was stopping videos playing (again, not your specific issue, but what appears to be in discussion here) and which allows flash to work using any browser - uses linux dbus libraries (weird). Not sure of the status though. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
maildrop port build/configure fail: failed for liblock
Quick question, one that hasn't come up since 2002 apparently; does anyone know what to do with this error when building maildrop? checking whether setpgrp takes no argument... no checking for fcntl... yes checking for flock... yes checking for lockf... yes checking for locking method... configure: error: must specify --with-locking-method option configure: error: ./configure failed for liblock === Script configure failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to madpi...@freebsd.org [maintainer] and attach the WRKDIRPREFIX/usr/ports/mail/maildrop/work/maildrop-2.6.0/config.log including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a /usr/sbin/pkg_info -Ea). Is there an easy fix for this that will sort it out immediately before I go and follow this method and wait a while for a solution? This is a new install of 9.1 with a ports tree updated from svn a few days ago, my ports tree is on a zfs file server over nfs with rpcbind, lockd, statd, etc, and the WRKDIRPREFIX is set to another directory on the file server. Mount in the fstab is just server:/mount share /mount point nfs rw 0 0. Any clues much appreciated. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Connecting EFTPOS terminals to FreeBSD
On 05/16/13 12:42, Shane Ambler wrote: On 15/05/2013 12:13, Da Rock wrote: If anyone has some dev material (or links to such) would be handy as well- I need to get a far better picture of all this. I don't have any experience to help but ledgersmb.org may be what you are looking for - they have free community support as well as commercial options. Thanks for the response, but I don't think they have eftpos support (unless I missed something in site search and google search). I'll continue my hunt... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: List Spam Filtering
On 05/12/13 22:04, Rich Kulawiec wrote: 1. Restricting mailing lists to subscribers only has been a best practice since the last century. It's a very good anti-spam tactic. 2. However, doing so -- for a list run via Mailman, like this one -- does not pose a significant impediment for non-subscribers. By default, Mailman will hold traffic from non-subscribers for list-owner approval. Provided the list-owners check that queue periodically and have reasonable spam-spotting abilities, this works beautifully. 3. Note that Mailman, as part of that same mechanism, allows list-owners to add non-subscribers to a list of those permitted to send traffic to the list without approval. This feature is probably more often used to allow traffic from alternative addresses for subscribers, e.g., someone is subscribed as f...@example.com but sends occasionally from f...@example.net. But it can just as easily be used for non-subscribers if the list-owners so choose. 4. List-owners may also find it useful to keep track of which spammers repeatedly attempt to abuse the list and block them at the MTA -- which has the desirable side effect of blocking them from ALL lists. I do this on a user/host/domain/network basis, and it's proven itself to be worth the effort. So: setting the subscribers-only flag on Mailman has major advantages, at the cost of additional work on the part of list-owners -- which can be mitigated in part across all lists by making changes to the MTA. I'm a big fan of _not_ having to subscribe to a list to get a quick hand with a one off problem (obviously not this one!)- otherwise too many lists get subscribed to, oodles of messages come in which you can't do anything about and so forth (so its not simply just a matter of subscribe, unsubscribe as noted). Unfortunately, many see it as a spam filter and thereby abuse it. How often do you need help with an issue with libreoffice, mozilla whatever, or other application? And yet subscription is compulsory and a ton of messages (devs convs mostly) come flooding in within minutes. Aside from all that, the last suggestion (4) should be possible using some simple filtering without the need to change the subscription parameters. It could be possible to even do it automatically saving further work on a list-owner. I admit the spam is getting worse, but there are still many more users sending who would like try before they buy - or subscribe. FreeBSD is an OS, yes, but it does give users options and freedom; and although many are willing to give up their freedom because it is *appears* safer, they tend to have serious regrets in the light of day. Better to find a way to maintain the freedom (and minimise the overheads required for oversight) through other measures. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Connecting EFTPOS terminals to FreeBSD
I have a client looking for a POS system and they need to be able to connect an EFTPOS terminal (credit/debit card terminal) to obtain data for transactions from. Has anyone here had any experience with this? I'm used to servers and such, but the goal here is to use a CRM (vTiger or such) with ERP/POS, and the server is in a room and the POS terminal in another (naturally). It currently works with a very basic accounts package running on Winblows, and the aim is to have a web based POS system (or similar) for online/instore transactions, with a secure EFTPOS terminal just at the front desk. Ideally we want to be able to use any web enabled system to be able to dropped in for quick deployment to use as a POS system and maintenance is kept to the server backend. My research so far has dragged up a lot of Winblows only solutions, and some IP based ones. I'm wondering how hard it is to get a serial connection working for linux/BSD to the EFT terminal? Or if that is even a consideration at all if it needs to communicate to a web based POS system- does that mean it has to IP based to communicate directly with the server itself? If anyone has some dev material (or links to such) would be handy as well- I need to get a far better picture of all this. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stop ifconfig high intensity message from master console
On 04/25/13 01:53, Joe wrote: When I do a ifconfig bridge create or ifconfig epair create commands I get some high intensity messages on the hosts F1 session master console. I would like to suppress these messages. Is there any way to do that? You'd have to adjust your syslog.conf I'd imagine- look for /dev/console. Read the man page for syslog to know what to adjust on the line which tells it what to send to the console. I believe there might even be a 'not' setting. Correct me if I'm wrong guys. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD-update?
On 04/25/13 06:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500 Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't changed. This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things stand the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if you recompile it after the update. It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in something like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of the OS as a Yes it would. sysctl kern.version ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD-update?
On 04/25/13 09:07, Mike Brown wrote: Da Rock wrote: sysctl kern.version For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. Try this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 That shows even less. But the point of the OP was having a file in etc with the info on version, which I fell could be redundant given the excessive detail available in sysctl which is what it is meant for. uname actually refers to the sysctl as a neat command for a shell user, doesn't it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD-update?
On 04/25/13 13:32, Mike. wrote: On 4/25/2013 at 4:47 AM Polytropon wrote: |On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:17 -0400, Mike. wrote: | If uname -r [-a] does not give the proper version of the OS, then it is | either a bug, or the documentation for uname should be changed. | Currently, the man page for uname gives the following option: | | -r Write the current release level of the operating system to | stan- |dard output. | |Also the manpage of uname(3) would require a change to make clear |that the version of the _kernel_ is provided, which _may_ stay the |same during patchlevels of a given version. From that point of |view, if we consider the patchlevel _not_ being part of the OS |_version_, the statement (as it currently reads) makes sense. |The understanding is: Version 9.1 is the OS version, and if |a patch has been added, it's still 9.1 (even though the more |precise information is 9.1-p5 for example). Similarly consider |followint -STABLE: in this case, 9-STABLE or 9.1-STABLE is being |reported, because no precise version numbers exist on that |branch (at least not in the terms of patchlevels, instead a |repository revision number or the date of the checkout could |be considered for precision). | |The uname program relies on the uname system call to get the |system identification, which queries the information stored in a |(struct utsname *) data structure: | | The uname() function stores NUL-terminated strings of information |identi- | fying the current system into the structure referenced by name. | | | The utsname structure is defined in the sys/utsname.h header file, |and | contains the following members: | | release Release level of the operating system. | | version Version level of the operating system. | |This part of documentation would, given the case, also require |adjustment, refering to the kernel instead of the OS. = On the other hand, maybe instead of changing the documentation of uname to accommodate a problem with freebsd update, maybe freebsd update should be changed to accommodate the historical and expected performance of uname. In other words, once I found out this problem with freebsd update (i.e., not properly refreshing the OS version), I stopped using it, as I was not able to ascertain the current state of my OS installation anymore. Interesting. My only observation was that sysctl is supposed to be the 'system' database where all queries relate to. It is supposed to display everything about the system; therefore any of these data bits should be fixed here first. Anything else would be a 'feature' :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Thunderbird MCD/Autoconfig - functions not working?
Quick question guys - anyone using the autoconfig feature of Thunderbird out there? I might have to either create something or add something to something else that will actually do the same job otherwise. I decided to give it a go and see if it might save some work on deployment, but the getent function simply doesn't work. I've submitted a bug report due to lack of support from mozilla themselves, but I thought I might check if anyone might be using it with the current Thunderbird. To get it running I: created an all.js with the general.config entries under the defaults/pref directory. created a thunderbird.cfg under thunderbird lib directory with a url redirect to a server using getent to obtain the username. It is set to refresh every hour (atm). What I get: Thunderbird starts and asks for account setup. (or an error message if I set it) with the NSPR_LOG variables set I can see it failed to retrieve the config with a http error. the server logs indicate Thunderbird attempted to retrieve the file but failed to offer a user so the filename requested is incomplete. Given the rather interesting background of this feature it might simply be a case of wysiwyg- and lucky for that; but I thought I'd query the vast resources here JIC. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SDXC compatibility
Not to bug people, but is there support for sdxc in any version of FBSD? (9.x would be nice :) ) I understand it is mostly in the fs (exfat), and as such there is a fuse module for it, but I'm concerned at a hardware/driver level- namely speeds. Any light on what happens when one uses a fs other than exfat would be helpful as well. I've had a look, but there is no clarity on the subject as far as this goes, and there is nothing on sdxc on the site. TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Questions about dump/restore to/from DVD media
On 11/05/12 11:18, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 16:56:58 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I would like to make a backup of one of my systems using dump(8) in order to be sure that I get everything, including all of the obscure file attribute bits. That eliminates at least some tools. I have been using a similar idea in the past to make a backup of a system using multiple CD-Rs and I think cpio or pax, but only for data files that do not come with the whole range of special attributes. Oh wait, it was afio, on FreeBSD 4... I would like to make this backup to a _minimal_ number of DVD+R disks. If you think you can add compression to your files (if it makes sense), it should be incorporated to the command. What's the proper procedure for this? In the dump(8) man page, I see the following example: /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -P 'growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=/dev/fd/0' /u There are several problems with this example, as far as I am concerned. First I have no particular interest in, or need for _either_ an ISO 9660 _or_ a UDF file system on my backup media. And in fact, that seems to me as if it is likely to be an utter waste of (precious) space on the backup media. Can't I just put the output of the dump command _directly_ onto the output DVD+R media? I think this command exactly does this. Your idea is correct: There is no need for ISO-9660 or UDF on backup media as it will not be mounted, but processed with the proper restore tool. The command growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=file will record the file like an image to the media. In most cases, that would be an ISO-9660 file system, like growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=stuff.iso (with a premastered file stuff.iso). In _this_ case, the input data is read directly from file descriptor 0, stdin. Whatever appears there, it will be written to the media. Here it is dump's output data stream. If so, how would I do this? Would a command such as the following work? /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -P 'dd of=/dev/acd0 bs=2048' /u If not, why not? As far as I know, direct device access for writing does not work here. There are some operating systems that support an approach like this (IRIX for example, if I remember correctly), but FreeBSD doesn't. Depending on your OS version, acd0 != cd0 might appear, being different in access method, i. e. ATAPI vs. ATAPICAM (SCSI over ATA). Actually, I just noticed in the dump manpage the -f option. So would this work in place of the above command line? /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -f /dev/acd0 /u And if THAT works, then can dump properly sense the actual end-of-media on /dev/acd0, so that the -B option can just be ommitted? I've never tried if /dev/acd0 (or /dev/cd0 for the reason mentioned above) would be able to start a writing session by receiving data in that kind of way. The -f option is typically used to send data to files, or to - to hand them to another program or pipeline. It seems that doing so for devices (and causing the _physical_ devices to do something with it) is not possible. Another issue is that I most definitely want to use an absolute minimum of DVD+Rs to store the dump. So I am wondering how I might be able to wedge gzip into this whole process. Could I do something like this? If not, why not? /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -P 'gzip | dd of=/dev/acd0 bs=2048' /u Taking the initial approach of /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -P 'growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=/dev/fd/0' /u it could be something like this: /sbin/dump -0u -L -C16 -B4589840 -P 'gzip | growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=-' /u Not tested, just an idea. Just check how -P interacts with /dev/fd/0 and - for stdin _within_ the pipe command. Lastly, I want to make a backup of one entire _system_... not just one of the several partitions that compose that system. How exactly can I do this? At least not with dump. The dump utility operates on file systems, this means it takes partitions as input. Whatever is _one_ partition can be processed per step. Maybe you could concatenate runs of dump of all the present partitions; however it will be a bit more complicated to restore them using the restore program, which reads file system dumps and outputs the data to initialized and mounted file systems. I mean sure, I can back up each partition separately, using dump, one at a time, but if I do that then the logical implication would seem to be that on the last DVD+R used to make a backup of each of the partitions, there could possibly be a lot of unused/wasted space which could have been used to store the first part of the dump for the next partition in turn. Yes, that is quite possible. In this case, using dd would maybe be better. You would use it to copy the whole disk containing all the partitions, add gzip, break it into multi-volume parts and then record it to DVD+R. Is there any way to effectively deal with _this_ issue? Not per se, but I
Re: Questions about dump/restore to/from DVD media
On 11/05/12 14:14, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:49:24 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message 20121105035233.e3c4ae8a.free...@edvax.de, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: But as I said (above) to make this really work right, dump restore really need to have -z options, and do the zipping/unzipping internally. Only if this were available could dump properly deal with end-of-media on any given output volume, I think. The problem is that delegating compression to a sub-task would imply that dump cannot precisely adjust its output to match the media size (as the limit is now defined by how good the compression works). Correct. We have both just said the exact same thing in different ways. In order to have _compression_ of the dump data _and_ still be able to divide the (post-compression) data into nice proper 2KB chunks (as required for DVD+/-R writing) the compression step itself would need to be integrated into the dump program itself (and then, for symmetry, if for no other reason, into restore as well). Chunk size _and_ media size matter (as dump would have to know when the media is expected to be nearly-full _with_ compression) because the operator will be required to deal with multi-volume media (next DVD). (I hate to say it, because in general I loath despise Windows, but even Windows has a built-in facility for making a single backup of an _entire_ system, and in a single step, *and*, I presume in a space-efficient manner.) That would be a task for dd. :-) Sorry? I am not following you. How could dd ever substitute for the intelligence of dump(8), and specifically how could it avoid copying of blocks that are ``in'' the filesystem but which are not currently _allocated_ by the filesystem? It cannot. :-) With dd, you could copy a disk including all aspects of the present slices and partitions (including file attributes and partitioning data, even boot elements), but it would maybe require a subsequent read and compare step to make sure that everything went well. (I am also not persuaded the dd could handle multiple partitions any better that dump(8) currently does... which is to say not at all, really.) It can - depending on what device you're reading from. Examples: dd if=/dev/ad0s1a - the root partition dd if=/dev/ad0s1- the 1st slice dd if=/dev/ad0 - the whole disk However, dd is very much bare metal and cannot handle multiple volumes and compression natively. It would be neccessary to have all those functionalities scripted additionally. For reference, if one did backup the whole slice/disk using dd and then compressed the data, would that effectively compress all those 'unallocated' nodes? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ATI HD 4850 driver
On 11/04/12 00:08, ds wrote: Hi, there's something wrong with the dri package list. The original pkg-list (look attachment) shows the reason why the r600 driver was not correctly installed: all drivers in the pkg-list have the same path: /lib/dri/rxx_dri.so except for the r600 driver which is preceded by these characters: %%MESALIB76%%lib/dri/r600_dri.so Is there a reason why the path from the r600_dri.so driver is preceded by the characters %%MESALIB76%% ? Try the ports list - this is a feature to make porting easier; as to why it is denying the install of that particular library I couldn't say right now as its late and I'm tired. If I get a chance I'll have a better look after. Good luck :) kind regards, Dirk On 11/02/12 22:21, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, ds wrote: I installed stellarium and the 3d acceleration of my ATI 4850 card didn't work in FreeBSD 9.0. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log showed that AIGLX could not load the r600_dri.so driver because it was missing in the /usr/local/lib/dri/ folder. So I recovered the r600_dri.so file from a PCBSD 9.0 installation and copied it to my FreeBSD 9.0 /usr/local/lib/dri/ folder and now my 3d acceleration works. Are there plans to resolve this bug in FreeBSD version 9.1 ? It's hard to say what happened on your system, but it works on others. The DRI libraries are installed by the graphics/dri port. Deinstalling, rebuilding, and reinstalling that port should create them. If it does not, something else is wrong on that system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I need a simple cli tool to rotate mp4 video.
On 10/31/12 19:22, Jakub Lach wrote: Strange thing is, -sameq should give same quality as original. Thanks for all help! Using mencoder with a mixture of -mc and -forceidx should help the sync issues. Then just use delay to either adjust the audio or video track. If you are using dvb ts streams though you may need something more specialised like projectx or tsmuxer to fix it. ffmpeg can be tricky for new users, but is basically the same thing if you can get the commands figured out. Mencoder will get you going quicker, though. Good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: gEDA, SPICE, electronic cad/simulation
On 10/16/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-10-14 14:26, Da Rock skrev: I'm struggling with this damn gEDA/SPICE thing - I think I have gEDA schem figured, but I can't be sure because I can't test it. For the life of me I can't seem to get my head around it, but then I might just be too tired. Can anyone point out what I'm missing? I open geda, create a sch file (circuit), and then run gnetlist -g spice-sdb sch-file. I then run ngspice (or gspiceui) but it comes up with errors over the 555 (U1) and diodes (d?) I'm running like this: You are using the spice models for those components? geda does not have spice models for diodes and 555 at least not mine. That may be it. Where are they supposed to be located on FreeBSD? And I suppose I would need to find where I can get them in the first place :) Thx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: gEDA, SPICE, electronic cad/simulation
I'm struggling with this damn gEDA/SPICE thing - I think I have gEDA schem figured, but I can't be sure because I can't test it. For the life of me I can't seem to get my head around it, but then I might just be too tired. Can anyone point out what I'm missing? I open geda, create a sch file (circuit), and then run gnetlist -g spice-sdb sch-file. I then run ngspice (or gspiceui) but it comes up with errors over the 555 (U1) and diodes (d?) I'm running like this: Error on line 9 : d1 2 0 unknown unable to find definition of model unknown - default assumed Error on line 13 : u1 0 4 3 +9v 1 4 5 +9v unknown unable to find definition of model +9v - default assumed unknown parameter (4) Doing analysis at TEMP = 27.00 and TNOM = 27.00 CPU time since last call: 0.040 seconds. Total CPU time: 0.040 seconds. Current dynamic memory usage = 0 bytes, Dynamic memory limit = 32742.316406 MB. Warning: can't parse '0': ignored Warning: can't parse '0': ignored Warning: can't parse '0': ignored Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Note: starting dynamic Gmin stepping Trying gmin = 1.E-03 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-04 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-05 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-06 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-07 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-08 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-09 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-10 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-11 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Warning: Dynamic Gmin stepping failed Note: starting source stepping Supplies reduced to 0.% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Trying gmin = 1.E-02 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-03 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-04 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-05 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-06 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-07 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-08 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-09 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-10 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-11 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Note: One successful source step Supplies reduced to 0.1000% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Supplies reduced to 0.% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes 1 and 1 Warning: source stepping failed doAnalyses: iteration limit reached run simulation(s) aborted Syntax error: expression not understood 'v(5)-v(+9v) v(3)-v(2) v(5)-v(4) v(+9v) v(1) v(2) v(3) v(4) v(5)'. There is nada on google about any of this - but I suspect it is missing model files or something, and before I go attaching to yet another mailing list, I thought I'd run it by here first as I'm sure there are some who use this and have experience with it on FreeBSD 9. TIA guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
.package files?
Just a quickie- has anyone been able to install a .package file on FBSD? File offered an interesting diagnosis: bash script 4 file. Opening in ee (gedit had kittens) displayed that it was indeed a bash script file with one massive difference: there is a line that says skipline=insert number here, and from that line number onward it is encoded. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
apache webdav svn locking issues
I've got a webdav setup on apache using svn, and all seems well until I use openoffice and it comes up with locking issues. I can mount the webdav drive and use locking to stop the io errors in openoffice, but it still tells me it is locked and can only be opened read only. I've checked thoroughly and there is no .~lock file, but in the apache logs it says it returned a 423 error when the file is queried. Apparently openoffice requests again, and finds no .~lock file (404). I'm assuming svn provides the locking data, correct? Anyone know the incantations to clear it? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with Xorg
On 04/12/12 02:28, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-04-10 16:50, Da Rock skrev: It gives a black screen. Vesa or not. Is that with the retro option? No it was not. Now I have fixed it, wife on my back so I had to fix it quickly. Pkg_delete \* cd x11-wm/xfce4 so now it starts up without errors. Thank you all for your input. Good to hear. Wives have a way of getting things done quickly, don't they? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to successfully enable HP LaserJet Professional m1212nf MFP,
On 04/12/12 11:14, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:17:01 -0500, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: hpcups 3.12.2, requires proprietary plugin that seems to not be available in the HP site. I have tried to get it using hplip-3.12.2 with no success. I have tried with both cups and hplip and can't get it going. Any suggestions appreciated. Maybe the official hplip-3.12.4 might work but hasn't been updated yet.I tried to compile it but wasn't able to adapt the patches. I have checked the printer's specification, but I can't find any mentioning about if it supports one of the standard languages PS or PCL (as one would assume for a product that HP markets as Pro(fessional)). However, the documentation states that it accepts PDF - so maybe you can try to feed a PDF file to the printer directly? You can use nc (netcat) to do this, I assume you already have the printer networked. I'd try PCL first; the pdf reference I saw was the for the fax function, which allows you to send and receive faxes using pdf over email. The odd man in this equation is an ability to email to print (pdf I'd assume), which is handy and may be how the hpcups thing works, however that means the pdf printing would only work via email and not just a netcat (security?). May still be worth trying, but try with PCL first as it is tried and true and has been a HP standard for god knows how long :) I'm not sure how the other functionality relates to the network connection (or maybe it is only availabe for the local USB connection?), check the documentation that came with the printer to find out more. For example, my Samsung color laser printer (MFC) has no networking functionality, but is represented by /dev/ugen0 for the scanner part and /dev/u(n)lpt0 for the printer part. Maybe something similar is possible with your printer? I'm using that kind of setup with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, a _real_ professional (office-class working horse) printer. It's accessed per its IP and fed PS, which is the default output format of any application that wants to print something. The printer spooler is inside the printer and can be queried via CUPS (and also by its command line tools). P.D. Is there a better way to use hp equipment than cups? Yes, base system's printer spooler (lpr) that simply hands the print jobs to the printer and manages them remotely. This assumes the printer has its internal print server (which should be normal for anything professional). CUPS can also deal with that if needed, as more and more applications rely on its presence. Finally I _assume_ the printer sadly is not that professional and doesn't support a lot of standards, depending on what I found on this page: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/18972-18972-3328064-12004-3328083-3965847.html?dnr=1 Good luck anyway! :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FTP oddness, over SSH session.
On 04/11/12 21:51, Dave B wrote: FreeBSD FBSD.67MK181QZ 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 14 22:55:09 BST 2010 root@FBSD.67MK181QZ:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PPSGENERIC i386 Hi. I have a small FreeBSD 8.0 system (above, yes I know, not current, but it works.) That is mainly used for timekeeping with an attached PPS equipped GPS. No problems with that. It also has a small web server (Hiawatha) FTP server and SSH portal, for my own use. The FTP server is the built-in OS based ftpd implementation, and works well for all that I need. Anyway... I found a while ago, that I can tunnel connections into my home LAN via a SSH session to my FreeBSD box, from outside the LAN using PuTTY (on Windows XP) from wherever I am. It's been a useful dodge for me to do that so as to VNC to other boxes that are there. The needed SSH working port, is not the usual suspect, it's way up high, well away from script kiddies etc. I just found however, that though I can reliably send a file to the FTP server and it get's saved just fine, that's not true when connecting this way using a SSH tunnel. Over the SSH session, (using Passive Mode, with all needed ports forwarded, plus the FTP daemon's data port usage restricted to the same range as those tunneled.) Though the FTP process appears to work OK, with no errors, the file sent to and deposited on the server ends up as name only, and zero bytes in length. Oddly, I can successfully create a new folder on the FTP server over the SSH session using the FTP client, and that works just fine. The FTP client I'm using, is the same FileZilla both times. (V3.1.0.1 I may go look for any updates, just in case.) Downloading works fine regardless of how I connect, it's just uploading that's screwey. I suspect (as usual) it's a rights issue, but even if I su - root after the initial SSH login, it changes nothing. I'd check the ports you are forwarding over ssh. Two ports are required for ftp and it sounds like one is blocking for some reason- the control channel seems to be working fine though :) The FTP user is a different name from who I'm logged in as by SSH, is that the issue?But what confuses me, is that it works from this same PC, if it's on the home LAN, using the same FTP user credentials. I'm obviously lacking in my understanding of something, but what? I may not get to see any replies for a day or three, as I've got to head off across country for work later, and it's not yet known if tonight's hotel even has WiFi, or if there is decent mobile coverage where I'm going. (Out in the Wiltshire sticks. UK, and I'm stuck with Orange.) Thanks in advance. Dave B -- Help for Hero's European Rally 2012 participant. Please help by visiting:- http://www.bmycharity.com/TeamSnowball For any/all donations, all 100% goes to H4H. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with Xorg
On 04/11/12 00:30, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-04-09 13:57, Da Rock skrev: On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-04-09 13:03, Da Rock skrev: On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) No. Not really. Never is, let me tell you. X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. (EE) Failed to load module fbdevhw (invalid module, 0) Setting master The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, butRALT has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master First some questions: 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? No It doesn't but no picture. 2. Do you know what video card you're using? Intel 845 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x25608086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'DRAM Controller / Host-Hub I/F Bridge (82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE)' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x25628086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c28086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *1' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c48086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *2' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cd8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x244e8086 rev=0x81 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x24c08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cb8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x00ad0e11 chip=0x24c58086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Realtek AC97 Audio (82801DBM SoundMAXController (ICH4-M B0 step))' class = multimedia subclass = audio fxp0@pci0:5:8:0:class=0x02 card=0x00120e11 chip=0x103b8086 rev=0x81 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) PRO/100 VM Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that is the only way. It gives a black screen. Vesa or not. Is that with the retro option? As a last chance perhaps run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new -retro and see if it does happen to work; this shows up the old test pattern so that you can see that X is actually running instead of a black screen. Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new
Re: FreeBSD losing market share?
On 04/09/12 16:01, Polytropon wrote: Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even measure its _usage share_! Unlike corporations with a certain income model where unit sales can be counted, you cannot count them for FreeBSD as anyone can download and install as many copies of it as he likes. Due to the licensing model, derived works that are turned into a closed-source project can even be attributed to a different company (e. g. a FreeBSD-derived OS that is installed into an embedded system acting as a firewall will sales_units++; for that company, not for FreeBSD). You have _no_, I repeatNO means to determine how many FreeBSD systems are currently up and running. That would be usage share. Market share is a measuring model that you can't even apply to FreeBSD in my opinion. On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200, Tony wrote: Imagine how FreeBSD's market share and popularity would skyrocket once regular people gets access to it. FreeBSD has no market share, if you apply the term correctly, as it is not part of the market. And regular people already can access it. They can use it freely as much as they like and get free help to boot (though I hope they reciprocate in kind in some way). Unlike certain OS you have to actually pay for to use and pay to get help, such as a certain popular OS which supposedly has 90% market share and gives all a headache... ;) Community is a so much nicer term for this phenomena. Low-cost hosting definitely is the way of the future. I'm not sure it is. Even by the means of cloud computing prices are still rising (due to energy costs increasing), and only efficiency is a way to chance this trend. Sadly, requirements to not follow this approach, which makes things becoming more expensive in the future. Unlimited data is also a thing that, in my opinion, will disappear in the future. Lean and fast applications will have a renaissance. Just look at how well low-cost airlineshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_low-cost_airlinesare doing. Are _currently_ doing, but they will sooner or later be out of fuel. Fuel is becoming more expensive as the available amount is limited. If you consider such things on the long run, you will surely have to admit that a short-time strategy (being cheap right now) does not pay. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with Xorg
On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. (EE) Failed to load module fbdevhw (invalid module, 0) Setting master The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, but RALT has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master First some questions: 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? 2. Do you know what video card you're using? 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new to vesa and run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new and see if it works then? Good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with Xorg
On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-04-09 13:03, Da Rock skrev: On 04/09/12 20:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list. When I try to start X I'm getting this error Yep. This one will be fun... :) X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD kw.fqdn 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 r...@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 09 April 2012 02:21:53AM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Apr 9 12:30:37 2012 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (EE) LoadModule: Module fbdevhw does not have a fbdevhwModuleData data object. (EE) Failed to load module fbdevhw (invalid module, 0) Setting master The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, butRALT has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master First some questions: 1. Does the machine lock up when you run X? No It doesn't but no picture. 2. Do you know what video card you're using? Intel 845 3. What is the output of pciconf -lv, dmesg? pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x25608086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'DRAM Controller / Host-Hub I/F Bridge (82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE)' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x25628086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82845G/GL/GV/GE/PE Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c28086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *1' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24c48086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller *2' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cd8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x244e8086 rev=0x81 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x24c08086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x00b90e11 chip=0x24cb8086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA pcm0@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x00ad0e11 chip=0x24c58086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Realtek AC97 Audio (82801DBM SoundMAXController (ICH4-M B0 step))' class = multimedia subclass = audio fxp0@pci0:5:8:0:class=0x02 card=0x00120e11 chip=0x103b8086 rev=0x81 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) PRO/100 VM Network Connection' class = network subclass = ethernet 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that is the only way. As a last chance perhaps run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new -retro and see if it does happen to work; this shows up the old test pattern so that you can see that X is actually running instead of a black screen. Finally, can you change the driver setting in the xorg.conf.new to vesa and run X -conf /root/xorg.conf.new and see if it works then? Well, starting X from remote it seems to catch on. HmmmOnly as root. Well I'll try to rebuild it without SUID. This is from remote AND root
Re: Token Ring (really- and why)
On 04/09/12 23:42, Jay West wrote: It was written --- Might it not be both more historically accurate, and a great deal easier, to just use the version of FreeBSD that corresponds to the historical era being re-created? And skip feature, performance, and security improvements made since? --- Not in this case on the former, and the latter - agreed. The real historical part and focus of the exhibit isn't the FreeBSD machine. It's a dual bay HP2000 Timeshare BASIC machine. It has been restored to pristine cosmetic and electrical running condition (2000/Access) and that's the focus of the exhibit. One neat feature of the HP2000, even though it was a dedicated basic interpreter environment, it had the ability to submit jobs to HASP/MVS. MVS could run the code and direct output back to files on the HP2000, output to devices on that system, etc. It's a really neat add-on feature of the display/project to include and demonstrate that functionality. Given that a full blown VM/360 system isn't in the picture, we've used Hercules. One issue is cobbling together some hardware glue to deal with the interface between the HP and the IBM, basically emulating a sync modem and 2780 device on the Hercules side. That is mostly within my skillset. The other issue is that there needs to also be some terminal interaction on the IBM side, so we have a 3174 establishment controller with some 3179 terms and a 3290 gas plasma 4-session display. The 3174 attaches to the host (Hercules) via token ring. I had this all working perfectly with FreeBSD 7x, but when upgrading FreeBSD we lost token ring support. I could stay on an older version of FreeBSD, but then I am stuck with pretty old versions of Hercules (there are problems with newer versions of Hercules compiling under older versions of FreeBSD, some needed features are lacking in older versions of Hercules, etc.). So now you have the gory details as to why. Yes, there are a few other possible ways to skin this cat, but I have researched them all and found various issues both subjective and objective with going those alternate routes, hence my desire for native TR support. So back to the topic at hand. I pulled the oltr code from 7x svn and dropped it onto an 8x machine I had available for testing, added the requisites to sys/conf/files.i386, and make buildkernel attempts to fly. It appears the main reason that oltr was dropped at release 8 was that it had IFF_NEEDSGIANT which has been deprecated for MP Safe. Additionally, some of the functions in cpufunc.h (outbv and inbv) are no longer present in the exact same form. Outbv and inbv I can probably easily adjust, but I'm out of my league in the ins outs of removing the need for giant locks. I figured it wouldn't be as simple as just moving the code :) I'll beat my head against it as time permits, thanks for any input. I've been following this thread with a kind of bizarre fascination (or more accurately perhaps it should be the fascination of the bizarre?). Perhaps you should put those questions to the hackers@ list? Or even net@? Where is this exhibit? Is there somewhere I can follow your progress with this interesting diorama? I'd be fascinated to see this in operation :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem with Xorg
On 04/10/12 00:36, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Da Rock wrote: On 04/09/12 21:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: 4. What does Xorg -configure produce? No idea, haven't tried it. Using HAL. Given your previous answers, I'd say you _have_ to run it. Then the last option I offered _will_ work. You need to force it to use vesa and that is the only way. Xorg autoconfigures itself. If HAL is used, it is only used for input devices, mouse and keyboard. Intel 845G should work with the x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel driver. Should, but not always. At least vesa will get it going for the moment until a permanent solution arrives. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck problem FreeBSD 8.3
On 04/10/12 05:02, Коньков Евгений wrote: Yes, I have tested. and on this hardware on this OS it works from Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 but last two days: reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 19:50 reboot ~ Mon Apr 9 18:30 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:55 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 20:00 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 19:49 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 17:43 reboot ~ Sun Apr 8 10:58 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 21:13 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:37 reboot ~ Sat Apr 7 16:07 I remembered. One thing changed. I add vlans to igb2, but no traffic flow on that devices yet. Perhaps you should test removing the vlans and see if things improve? Before this I have use: igb0, igb1, igb3 igb0@pci0:1:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb1@pci0:1:0:1:class=0x02 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb2@pci0:1:0:2:class=0x02 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet igb3@pci0:1:0:3:class=0x02 card=0x00018086 chip=0x15218086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet ifconfig_vlan100=inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev igb2 #nALL ifconfig_vlan101=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 101 vlandev igb2 #n2 p24 ifconfig_vlan102=inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 102 vlandev igb2 #n1 p23 ifconfig_vlan103=inet 192.168.3.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 103 vlandev igb2 #n3 p22 ifconfig_vlan104=inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 104 vlandev igb2 #n7,9 p21 ifconfig_vlan105=inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 105 vlandev igb2 #n11 p20 ifconfig_vlan106=inet 192.168.6.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 106 vlandev igb2 #n13 p19 ifconfig_vlan107=inet 192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 107 vlandev igb2 #n223 p18 ifconfig_vlan108=inet 192.168.8.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 108 vlandev igb2 #n225 p17 ifconfig_vlan109=inet 192.168.9.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 109 vlandev igb2 #n221 p16 ifconfig_vlan110=inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 110 vlandev igb2 #n229 p15 ifconfig_vlan111=inet 192.168.11.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 111 vlandev igb2 #n233 p14 ifconfig_vlan112=inet 192.168.12.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 112 vlandev igb2 #n231 p13 ifconfig_vlan113=inet 192.168.13.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 113 vlandev igb2 #n237 p12 ifconfig_vlan114=inet 192.168.14.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 114 vlandev igb2 #n424 p11 ifconfig_vlan115=inet 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 115 vlandev igb2 # PAP Nothing logged in /var/log/* or crashes that exist in /var/crash PAP would indicate to me some sort of hardware related problem. PAP Have you tested your hardware lately and know that it is in operational order? PAP ~Paul PAP On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:36:54PM +0300, ??? ??? wrote: Hi. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, CANNOT RUN FAST FSCK Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Apr 9 19:51:58 fsck: /dev/ad8s1e: CANNOT SET FS_NEEDSFSCK FLAG Apr 9 20:09:22 kernel: running manually: # fsck -y /dev/ad8s1e ** /dev/ad8s1e (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /tmp ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 99 files, 10 used, 506477 free (45 frags, 63304 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) Server reboot two or three time per day # uname -a FreeBSD flux 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #3 r231881: Fri Feb 24 17:07:48 UTC 2012 adm@flux:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v8 amd64 before this it works about month without problems /var/crash - empty, in /var/log/messages there is no any messages before crash. Can any help to fix problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: zpool creation on geli failed with FreeBSD-9.0
On 04/10/12 02:07, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: I was trying to install FreeBSD 9.0 using a geli encrypted disk and ZFS on my ThinkPad R500 this weekend. I failed. Having sucessfully initialized the geli part and having attached the provider, my attempt to create a zpool on the geli section thus $ zpool create ntank /dev/ada0p2.eli failed with the message Cannot create 'ntank': invalid argument for this pool operation. I could not convince the system to create the zpool on the geli part, so I gave up and created the zpool on the unencrypted partition instead to have a working machine for the week. I would, however, like to have my data on an encrypted partition though. Has anyone witnessed and resolved this issue or does anyone have other ideas? Someone using ZFS will be able to verify this, but from my understanding ZFS runs on the hardware and you can *possibly* put geli on top of ZFS. You can put geom on ZFS but not the other way around. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Kind OFF Topic. FreeBSD for Blocking URLS? Nanny?
On 04/10/12 13:46, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello. Yes I know and we ill do our best to solve it... but if that does not work, then I still will try to solve it technically in some way if possible. For the interim (and as a POC), setup squid and dans guardian and point the browsers to proxy using that machine. Prove your point and then explain that this can be done transparently if you had some control of the routers. All that is necessary for transparent proxy is to reroute port 80 traffic from the network to the squid server then. HTH Jorge Biquez At 10:42 p.m. 09/04/2012, Robert Huff wrote: Jorge Biquez writes: Any comments you have that could help me to solve this challenge? Yes. You do not have a technical problem. You have a management problem. Fix that, and the technical issues will be (comparatively) trivial. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity
On 04/10/12 21:32, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Mark Felderf...@feld.me wrote: Python on Planes is the future, mn. Shouldn't that be spelled plains, as in the places where the snake-containing grass grows? :-) Ha! One would think so, but with ruby on rails one would think that python on plains wouldn't sound anywhere near as exciting or appear too quick. That and a shaded reference to a certain similarly titled movie with Samuel L Jackson- corny! :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Music production on FreeBSD
On 04/08/12 15:32, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:28:51 +1000 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 04/08/12 11:39, Mario Lobo wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: Hello! Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music primarily on FreeBSD? Thanks! Tony Man, that has been my dream for a good while! Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional sound boards. I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by gravity. I hope I don't blow up my desktop. I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. I have. Or more accurately my wife and co have, with me behind the wheel. My wife is a musician and music teacher, and we only use FreeBSD, so its a given here (and a massive drive for me to find a way to support it). We used simple tools: audacity, rosegarden, and hydrogen. We used a usb yamaha sound board, and a ribbon mic for the vocals. The biggest problem here is that rosegarden refuses to use jack for midi transport now, so even though there is a jack_umidi daemon in the ports it still wont pick it up. I'll have to look at another app like ardour and see if it is better there. Other than that, all good. Incidentally, the reason for the emphasis on rosegarden is that it does midi and audio multitrack; as well as notation editing. Apparently they're hell bent on only using alsa (God only knows why - must have a death wish or something...), with marginal support for jack. Hence they only support midi through alsa, not jack. Madness... Yes, Rosegarden is a very nice app; it's just too bad we can't get true MIDI working with it under FreeBSD. As an amateur (frustrated?) composer, I *really* like the notation editing. I don't know about not having true midi, midi seems fine its just the software is (for some inexplicable reason) not supporting OSS anymore and chasing the horrid monster that is alsa. Even jack supports the freebsd midi using the daemon, but the software doesn't suport jack midi. Like I said: madness... For several months now, I've been unable to use Rosegarden at all (under 10-CURRENT). It crashes very early on startup. Haven't been able to track this one down yet. Gosh, how I miss my early days with FreeBSD and my Soundblaster AWE64 with the special MIDI apps for it in the ports collection (back in the good ol' days when OSS was our soundsystem). The usb audio was a good call; the uaudio driver worked well in our case with jack, and given all work was done on a laptop it made sense. These days I think it makes more sense because of the portability, not to mention if the power happens to go off in the midst of a take you can keep going and finish the track ;) The only other option that would be ideal would be firewire audio - if that ever comes to FBSD. I think there may be some support through jack, but I haven't investigated that fully yet. And dont forget lilypond for notation... :) I wish driver coding and such were more my area of expertise; I'd gladly lend a hand to any efforts to improve our MIDI support. Unfortunately, every time I've tried looking at any of the actual code for the sound subsystem, it's left me in a veritable mystified stupor. :-) And lately, even some of the timidity++ stuff isn't working right. The Xaw interface refuses to build/install properly, ever since the removal of X11BASE from the ports infrastructure. This is really my single, my one-and-only gripe with FreeBSD: MIDI! Used to have a nice setup that was working beautifully, pretty much comparable to what you might find under Windows or Mac. But the whole thing got yanked out and replaced with the newpcm stuff back in -- what year was it? -- sometime in the late 90s. Most unfortunate. I and a number of others protested at the time, that we were having functionality ripped out with no viable replacement in sight, and sadly, that's still pretty much the case. MIDI support in FreeBSD has never been the same since. :-( The replacement is there now, but everything else has moved on. Oh well, I'll shut up now. Hate to come off as a whiner or something. :-) No, I'd call it constructive criticism. Once my wife gets on my back about it I imagine I'll be driving it all forward again, so maybe there will be hope :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrade to 9.0 - Mount to root failed..
On 04/09/12 02:17, Joshua Isom wrote: On 4/8/2012 8:51 AM, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: Hi Matthew, Thanx for the quick reply.. Can't get it to work though.. On 08/04/2012 09:53, Airosoβicz fb. wrote: So I've upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 now the system can't mount in single user mode to go through the final step of installing the world.. As was mentioned else-thread, you are probably hitting problems due to the name change from ad(4) to ada(4) for PATA/SATA disk devices. It's starting to make sense now.. Mounting ufs:/dev/ad*a*2s1a i.o. from ufs:/dev/ad2s1a simply doesn't work because as I've put in my original post with # ls -l /dev/ad* it doesn't exist.. Only ad2,ad2s1 ad2s1a do.. One way to fix this is simply to type in the new boot device in the loader and then edit /etc/fstab from single user mode Which boot device..? I wish it was simple.. When you get to the loader, escape to the loader prompt. Then type lsdev to see what the loader finds. You'll have to find which one looks right, and type that into the mount failed prompt. After it's done booting, check /dev to make sure it looks right and change your fstab. From a theoretical point of view (I'll have to consider this for my own needs in the near future) I'd say the labeling option mentioned by Warren would be better for the long term. It may seem a little complicated to setup but it will work just about anywhere. If you continue with devices as you are at the moment you run the risk of having this trouble every time something changes. My 2c. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity
On 04/09/12 07:44, RW wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:40:12 +0200 Tony wrote: Tony http://siegelgale.com/ The FreeBSD site isn't great, but this site is worse. Has no-one ever pointed-out the irony that the top 20% of the page bangs-on about simplifying, and has a fight bloat on your website link, but the other 80% is a cluttered mess. It also has a pet hate of mine: menus that make the rest of the page move around even when the pointer is just passing-over them. I can forgive the FreeBSD site all its faults for not doing that. The FreeBSD site is accessible (as is legal required) and to the point. That is what matters. It provides all the information needed and communicates it exceedingly well. FreeBSD is a no nonsense get the job done without bloat OS: the site communicates that as well, and communication is not just about the words. My 2c. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Music production on FreeBSD
On 04/08/12 11:39, Mario Lobo wrote: On Saturday 07 April 2012 21:04:41 Tony wrote: Hello! Is anybody aware of any talented producers who produce their music primarily on FreeBSD? Thanks! Tony Man, that has been my dream for a good while! Ardour is a fine multitrack but no MIDI, at least on FreeBSD. And FBSD itself has lots of issues with MIDI. Besides that, there is the driver problem with most professional sound boards. I am going to attempt something a quite bit out of my league which is try to port the alsa drivers for my echo Gina3G board to FBSD. If I can manage to do that, then I believe the rest will fall on my lap by gravity. I hope I don't blow up my desktop. I'm eager to read the replies to the OP. I have. Or more accurately my wife and co have, with me behind the wheel. My wife is a musician and music teacher, and we only use FreeBSD, so its a given here (and a massive drive for me to find a way to support it). We used simple tools: audacity, rosegarden, and hydrogen. We used a usb yamaha sound board, and a ribbon mic for the vocals. The biggest problem here is that rosegarden refuses to use jack for midi transport now, so even though there is a jack_umidi daemon in the ports it still wont pick it up. I'll have to look at another app like ardour and see if it is better there. Other than that, all good. Incidentally, the reason for the emphasis on rosegarden is that it does midi and audio multitrack; as well as notation editing. Apparently they're hell bent on only using alsa (God only knows why - must have a death wish or something...), with marginal support for jack. Hence they only support midi through alsa, not jack. Madness... The usb audio was a good call; the uaudio driver worked well in our case with jack, and given all work was done on a laptop it made sense. These days I think it makes more sense because of the portability, not to mention if the power happens to go off in the midst of a take you can keep going and finish the track ;) The only other option that would be ideal would be firewire audio - if that ever comes to FBSD. I think there may be some support through jack, but I haven't investigated that fully yet. And dont forget lilypond for notation... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem installing bind in jail
On 04/06/12 03:24, bsd wrote: Hi, I have followed the tutorial provided in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-application.html I have now five jails up and running and I am very happy with the system. One of my jail is acting as an important DNS server and It needs to be up to date. I have decided to recompile bind in the latest version and I am running into a problem which is caused by bind port not following the FreeBSD requisites and trying to install things in /usr/include/isc making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32 making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/x86_32/include/isc making install in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include making all in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc making install in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc /bin/sh ../../../../mkinstalldirs /usr/include/isc mkdir /usr/include/isc mkdir: /usr/include/isc: Read-only file system *** Error code 1 Stop in /s/portbuild/usr/ports/dns/bind98/work/bind-9.8.2/lib/isc/include/isc. […] I am not certain of the path I should take to solve this issue… Most probably I should simlink from the RO part of the system to the RW… but I am not 100% sure how to proceed. Why is ISC trying to setup things in this location and not on /usr/local/include/ ? I think I would need to simlink from the RO portion of the system /usr/include/isc to /usr/local/include/isc but I am not certain how to proceed. Assuming your replacing the base version, you cannot use symlinks but you can use a nullfs mount. You can make any part RW this way as long as its a directory. As Matthew pointed out, all is in order here. No rule breaks happening... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what is the path of kernel build directory?
On 04/05/12 17:21, saeedeh motlagh wrote: hello guys i want to install the openvswitch 1.4.0 from a linux package. the below command should be executed: ./configure --with-linux=/lib/modules/'uname -r '/build this is a linux command and i should execute the FreeBSD equivalent but i don't know how to do that. the manual says: To build the Linux kernel module, so that you can run the kernel-based switch, pass the location of the kernel build directory on --with-linux. what is kernel build directory in FreeBSD9 amd64? or how i should execute this command? This isn't going to work the way you think, as has been pointed out: This is _not_ linux. Its better... :) The good news is that FreeBSD can run linux programs and some other features (such as some modules), so you might want to try the emulation@ list where the linuxulator gurus hang out to get help building this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 04/04/12 04:22, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Jerryje...@seibercom.net wrote: By the way, since you seem so concerned over your printers security, I assume that you all ready have it at least password protected. No need. I have no wireless at all -- everything is hardwired -- and I trust my firewall. There's no way for anyone to either sniff or inject anything from outside (i.e. without physical access to the network on the secure side of the firewall). And of course you can't login to firewall from the internet, and therefore no CE devices exposed. This then allows you to concentrate on what happens inside your network, without worrying about outside forces getting in without your knowledge. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 04/03/12 23:30, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:40:05 -0400, Jerry wrote: On a serous note, I have spent the last 12 hours, more or less, checking with my friends and business associates. Not a single one has ever had or knows of a single incident of anyone actually ever being infected or having suffered any negative reaction to having printed a PDF file. Most, but not all of these friends / associates are Microsoft users; however, that should not invalidate the statistics. That might be a problem: Malicious acts take place in the background. The time where a virus would pop a funny message on the screen are long over. In Windows land, there are limited resources for means of diagnostics and troubleshooting. Many people believe (and please take that word seriously) that they have no virus, and if you bring a laptop with a traffic scanner (e. g. Wireshark, ex Ethereal), you can see scary things happen on their network. In worst case, the police rushes in, takes all the PCs, and the sloppy explaination they give is: We're investigating a case of copyright infringement, we suspect your PCs being an active sharepoint of copyrighted material. While Windows and its programs presents lots of bells whistles to the user, there's no real chance to find out what's _really_ happening behind that curtain. There are _tons_ of programs out there that can be considered snake oil in regards of security. Windows users know 'em, many of them use 'em. I can imagine if PDF printers spread more and more, they become more interesting to attackers, and malware like Professional Printer Anti-Malware Check XXL Super High Security Programs will spread, waiting for the poor-minded victims to run them, and BANG! printer pwn'd. This is the _first_ step into turning a corporate network into a botnet. If the attacker is able to hide inside a printer, it's much easier for him to do sniper attacks with precision as he is in control of a full-featured networking devices that nobody recognizes... or verifies. Running virus scans, malware scans and so on on Windows PCs has become standard by the majority of its users. Printers are not concerned here, and maybe there are no proper tools available to do the pending tests. No. A traffic sniffer would be required to intercept traffic and discover any abnormalities. Most sysadmins wouldn't pay much attention, but you can bet it _will_ require a printer technician with training on the model to fix it- firmware usually requires either passworded telnet access or similar, possibly in conjunction with service software only available to the dealer- and may provide yet a whole new market for office machine service. I'd say sysadmins would expect the manufacturer to actually handle this issue. Applying that consideration to PDF files, virus scanners would have to check them before they are sent to the printer. In fact, the FOSS society claims MS is more vulnerable to infections/hijacking then they are. This is due to its usage share. I believe if Linux (for example) would run on 90% of home PCs, attackers would concentrate their activities on that platform. Given the statement that the platform is more secure in a technical way (by design and implementation), attackers would potentially try to access the weakest part: the user. This kind of attack is different from those that work in a technical way (e. g. overwriting a printer's firmware silently and secretly), because it does not depend on technical vulnerabilities in the first place. FOSS or not, people have to understand that security is not a static thing, it's a process that involves _them_ to act. A Linux server with telnet enabled and empty root password is as dangerous as a Windows PC in a corporate network. Now there's something interesting hidden: Let's say a malicious file is sent to the printer to compromise it. It's send from a Linux workstation. Will Linux (to keep this example) have to contain a kind of PDF virus scanner by default? Take into mind what I said about behind the curtain. When a printer is compromised, and it acts maliciously within a Linux environment that is poorly secured, I agree with your statement that using a FOSS system does not imply security per se. Having found a poorly 'written' pdf, I believe a simple pdf2pdf (using gs with similar commands as pdf2ps) will be sufficient to 'clean' the pdf file- or render it harmless. But essentially running through the cups filters (speaking of the general user) will do this I think- easily verified. Incidentally the pdf was written using MS Office, which offers yet another can o' worms. The original PDF code was written years ago. Since about 2006 hackers have started finding vulnerabilities in it. That's a well-known fact in IT security. As I said, it's up to the manufacturers to properly deal with the security issues as good as possible. If they _can_ remove certain attack vectors for example by ignoring specific sections of PDF
Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments
On 04/02/12 17:48, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 408, Issue 10, Message: 5 On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:05:00 +0700 Erich Dollanskyerichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: On Saturday 31 March 2012 20:26:14 Julian H. Stacey wrote: [..] Da Rock wrote: On 03/31/12 17:46, Julian H. Stacey wrote: [..] schu...@ime.usp.br wrote: Hello, I would like to raise a discussion about the security features of FreeBSD as a whole and how they might be employed to actually derive some meaningful guarantees. We have a list specialy for freebsd-security@. Please use it. I thought this to be sensible advice. Before seeing that I'd thought of copying it to rwatson@ who I figured might take an interest due to his involvement with Capsicum, acl(3) and such, but he certainly reads that list anyway (and more than likely, not this one :) Hang on, hold the phone: The security list (specifically) is for security announcements. At least that what it said when I subscribed to it... Wrong. Correct :) So thats turn left, right? Clear as mud now... :) For list of mail lists see: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo Specifically: freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security freebsd-security-notificati...@freebsd.org http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security-notifications this sounds very confusing for people who have simple question: 'General system administrator questions of an FAQ nature are off-topic for this list, but the creation and maintenance of a FAQ is on-topic. Thus, the submission of questions (with answers) for inclusion into the FAQ is welcome. Such question/answer sets should be clearly marked as (at least FAQ submission) such in the subject. ' schultz' post was nothing in the way of an FAQ issue, but a request for discussion of a wide range of system security issues, far indeed from a 'simple question'. Had you posted the two paragraphs before the one you quote above, this may have been a little clearer. To wit: This is a technical discussion list covering FreeBSD security issues. The intention is for the list to contain a high-signal, low-noise discussion of issues affecting the security of FreeBSD. I think that has clarified things sufficiently now. Looks like I should subscribe to that list too. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 04/03/12 01:09, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Polytroponfree...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh impossible to truly secure it. In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? Firmware attacks! Yes - malware has already reached printers ... All the more reason to avoid wireless. (I had been thinking more along the lines of someone intercepting sensitive print files, e.g. tax returns, as they were being sent to the printer.) A printer connected to a hard-wired network, behind a firewall with no tunnelling to it allowed, is not going to get anything sent to it from outside. Granted this does not protect against malware jobs sent from a local machine, but it at least avoids having malware sent wirelessly to the printer by someone parked out front, thus there's one less pathway needing to be secured. It may also be a reason to _avoid_ printers that accept PDF directly. Since PDFs are often downloaded and printed, an attacker could post a bogus firmware download under an innocent-sounding name like manual.pdf leading someone to do $ fetch http://.../manual.pdf; lpr manual.pdf Oops. However if said PDF has to first be locally converted to PS (e.g. by xpdf) before being sent to the printer, an attacker would have to (somehow) formulate a PDF that would cause xpdf to emit a PostScript file that looked to the printer like a firmware download. I don't know enough about either PDF or xpdf to say whether that's possible, but I imagine it would at least be a whole lot more difficult than in the direct PDF case. Sounds pretty good to me. I'd implement it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/01/12 14:06, Outback Dingo wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: Hi, On Sunday 01 April 2012 08:57:00 Da Rock wrote: Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block that was too low and a moving van hit it. Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- just FBSD box is the issue. so, there is some difference. The questions are there to find out what the difference might be. Erich to me it sounds like a link negotiation problem between the network interfaces, and auto-sensing not being able to sync you might need to set the interface on the bsd box manually to see if you can even establish link, once link is up dhcp should function Exactly. But right now we can only speculate the connection type without ifconfig- it may provide some clues as to what it is supposed to be connecting to, and what settings may actually help. rc settings may enlighten further as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: log error..
On 04/01/12 16:01, jangkawij...@students.itb.ac.id wrote: Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: starting BIND 9.7.4-P1 -t /var/named -u bind Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps' '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--with-openssl=/usr/local' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn' '--enable-ipv6' '--enable-threads' '--sysconfdir=/etc/namedb' '--prefix=/usr' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'build_alias=i386-portbld-freebsd7.3' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' 'LDFLAGS= -rpath=/usr/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe' Apr 1 19:33:10 johannesang named[18782]: Using 101 tasks for zone loading Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: max open files (3520) is smaller than max sockets (4096) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: NS 'johannesang.com.127.in-addr.arpa' has no address records (A or ) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: has no NS records Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: NS 'host.johannesang.com' has no address records (A or ) Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db:5: unknown RR type 'Serial,' Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-forward.db failed: unknown class/type Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: zone localhost/IN: not loaded due to errors. Apr 1 19:33:11 johannesang named[18782]: running can somene help me ?? can some help me to selve this thanks Check your zone files and ensure they are correctly formatted. You can use named-checkzone to check if it will work or not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 04/01/12 19:29, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:43 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I personally don't trust wireless, because it's well nigh impossible to truly secure it. In that case, one should also pay attention to secure the printer. Wait - secure the printer? What am I talking about? Firmware attacks! Yes - malware has already reached printers. As they contain all typical parts of a computer and are equipped with net- working capabilities, they can cause trouble in networks the same way as what hujacked Windows PCs typically do. They can be turned into networked allies, carrying out the attackers orders within networks. Those who are interested may find some information here: Exclusive: Millions of printers open to devastating hack attack, researchers say http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/29/9076395-exclusive-millions-of-printers-open-to-devastating-hack-attack-researchers-say ShmooCon 2011: Printers Gone Wild! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZgLX60U3sY#t=3m40s ROFL! Sorry my mind went to an interesting place with this one images of printers on spring break flashing their cartridges, opening flaps to show off their drums... :D The content isn't funny though. They really should consider their headlines before releasing... ShmooCon 2011: Printer to PWND: Leveraging Multifunction Printers During http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPhisPLwm2A Printer malware: print a malicious document, expose your whole LAN http://boingboing.net/2011/12/30/printer-malware-print-a-malic.html Print Me If You Dare Firmware Modification Attacks and the Rise of Printer Malware http://events.ccc.de/congress/2011/Fahrplan/events/4780.en.html HP firmware to 'mitigate' LaserJet vulnerability http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57347817-83/hp-firmware-to-mitigate-laserjet-vulnerability/ It seems that printers can be infected via specific network traffic or closed-source malicious drivers (that nobody can examine content-wise) that will find their way to the device. Depending on your local legislation, that can develop into dangerous (and expensive) directions... 2. Standard language. Postscript and PCL. Make sure the printer understands at least one of them. or, alternatively, PDF (which some of the newer printers are reputed to take directly, rather than requiring the host to convert it to PS or PCL). Jerry mentioned this, and I think it's a feature worth demanding when buying a new printer. Still if PDF input is not possible, PCL or PS should be looked for. All those considerations make sure you can use the printer with _any_ OS you like, and due to this fact it will be usable even after the target OS will be out of support (and follow-up drivers won't be provided). From my memory Xerox are pretty good with this. Besides schmoozing the printed graphics industry they've been a _big_ proponent of the Unix system; in particular the birth of X-Windows, and various print standards long before and after M$ came on the scene. They have still remained a strong supporter of the Unix and printing community. The Phaser is a good choice. Unfortunately they are a bit of an elite brand which puts them out of most home users price range :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/02/12 00:59, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:35:02 +0100 Matthew Seaman articulated: On 01/04/2012 14:35, RW wrote: I had a modem that did something similar, it issued a temporary private ip address and the replaced it with a routable address. It's fairly sad that they don't use the officially mandated[*] 169.254.0.0/16 netblock which is what DHCP clients/servers are supposed to use when they need to temporarily grab an address. The difference here is that the DHCP server is in a different address block to the DHCP server, but I'm not sure that's a problem. I think that FreeBSD associates DHCP traffic with the interface its operating on irrespective of normal routing. Huh? One of those servers should be a client perhaps? Yes. Contacting a DHCP server is done using Ethernet protocols (at least initially.[+]) Not using IP. That means DHCP client and server have to be on the same ethernet segment, or there should be a DHCP-relay on any routers between the client and server. If that fails, then the client can assign itself a link-local address and try that, but it is pretty uncommon in the wild. While you can run multiple different IP networks over the same physical ethernet segment, and so have DHCP servers that dish out addresses on networks distinct from any they have configured on their own interfaces, you're more likely to run into this sort of scenario if there are some DHCP relays in the picture. Cheers, Matthew [*] RFC 5735 [+] Well, also except for IPv6 -- DHCP6 just uses the auto link-local addresses which are pretty much always configured on any IPv6 capable interface. Mathew, I don't know if it is as cut and dry as that. The OP claimed that his Microsoft PC connected properly but not his FreeBSD machine. That, in itself, is certainly not surprising. I have always had better luck setting up networks with Microsoft; however, why is it that he is apparently the only FreeBSD user who is exhibiting these problems? I suppose it is conceivable that he alone uses the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. I find that rather hard, although not impossible to believe. Further more, is this one branch of the TW empire the only one using this configuration? I kind of doubt that myself. It would seem to me that the problem lies in the OP's configuration itself. He claimed it worked with ATT. Is it possible he has some left over remnants of that configuration that are causing this problem. Windows would not suffer that problem since it creates a new configuration for each new host. Until it loses that configuration and you're expected to delete it and re-enter the connection details... Explain why it would be so hard to configure various functions as file sharing and some of the more 'new' features for networking on Windows then? A fellow IT colleague and I could not figure it out for the life of us on the newer versions while it worked perfectly on the old '95, '98, NT, 2k, XP systems. So no, Windows does not make networking easier- in fact it has just about completely taken the guts out of networking to abstract it from the user, making it nearly impossible for a networking expert to configure. I digress. In this case we're all only speculating as the OP hasn't provided more detail, but it could be as simple as an unplugged cable :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/02/12 02:29, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:27:36 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Until it loses that configuration and you're expected to delete it and re-enter the connection details... Or until elephants fly, or whatever. No. This is the common mantra for any Windows net technician. Explain why it would be so hard to configure various functions as file sharing and some of the more 'new' features for networking on Windows then? A fellow IT colleague and I could not figure it out for the life of us on the newer versions while it worked perfectly on the old '95, '98, NT, 2k, XP systems. So no, Windows does not make networking easier- in fact it has just about completely taken the guts out of networking to abstract it from the user, making it nearly impossible for a networking expert to configure. Just because an individual has a PHD does not make him an expert, in fact it could stand for Pin Headed Dope. Everyone is an expert in something, just ask them. The fact that you were not smart enough to complete the task means nothing. If we were to use your reasoning, then if a single person could not configure networking in FreeBSD then FreeBSD networking sucks. That is just using your rational. Both networking in FreeBSD _and_ Winblows can be difficult at times. My point is that Winblows is not some magical fairy that can make everything better. It doesn't. It quite often gets it wrong, and when it does its a b**ch to fix- especially now with the newer versions; it just just gets harder and harder to fix. And (forget your phd) considering both myself and the other tech have _Microsoft_ certs and I topped in networking in that same certification thats saying something, do you think? I digress. In this case we're all only speculating as the OP hasn't provided more detail, but it could be as simple as an unplugged cable :) [...] I recently ran into a case where a user had a static IP assigned to a wireless printer. When he changed printers he could not get it to print because it was not being assigned the same IP as the old unit because he had failed to enter the new MAC address for the newer printer. A simple problem that took a few hours before it dawned on him what the problem was. Actually, Windows did find the printer, CUPS couldn't. Again with the magical fairy? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: using clang
On 04/02/12 04:02, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0400 Robert Huffroberth...@rcn.com wrote: Conrad J. Sabatier writes: Note, too, that none of these exceptions have anything to do with my /usr/src builds. I've been using clang for buildworld and buildkernel for quite some time now. I've heard that, but I think I'll wait until it becomes the official default. :-) I can well understand your hesitation. I didn't jump on the clang bandwagon for a good while myself, either. But, from examining and comparing clang's assembly language output against gcc's, it does seem pretty apparent that clang produces some pretty darned efficient code, frequently using notably fewer machine instructions than gcc, so I try to use it now as much as possible. I also find its error and warning messages to be much more precise and informative than gcc's, which is a real boon if you do any coding yourself. Tell me about it. I just found the real reason why libreoffice is failing when it gets to tests... :) There's that, plus the fact that the base system's version of gcc (4.2) doesn't fully support my processor family type (amdfam10), whereas clang does (although, to be fair, gcc 4.6+ does as well). Hope this helps somewhat. :-) Very much. Thank you. You'll come around eventually, no doubt. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/02/12 04:10, Fbsd8 wrote: Well here is the results of my attempts to connect to Time Warner cable network. After 4 calls to their call center which was in the Philippines where all the people just read a scripted answer FAQ and only had the ability to remotely reset the modem. I finally requested to talk to the top support level in the USA. Finally got a tech support person who knew something about how their network was configured. Their modems at power up time run a script that is really a private LAN using 192.168.x.x to auto verify the cable modem mac address against a table of authorized accounts. At the conclusion the 10.2.0.1 dhcp server issues a real routable ip address along with the routable 2 dns ip address. Now this long duration hand shake takes about 40 seconds and on a windows system, windows keeps looping through the ip and dns acquire code until it succeeds. Now on freebsd the ifconfig_fxp0=DHCP seems to only cycle a single time and results in a no carrier status in the boot up msg log. After the Freebsd 8.2 boot process completed and I saw no carrier status i issued /etc/rc.d/netif restart command which resulted in the same status. This is when I posted to the questions list for help. It was after the post that I had my conversation with the level 3 tech support guy and learned about the long hand shake process. I next tried issuing (ifconfig fxp0 up) after the freebsd boot process completed and to my surprise I had a public routable ip address. So I have to find a way during the boot process to give the ifconfig_fxp0=DHCP statement in the /etc/rc.conf some delay time. But I think Freebsd 9.0 has an built in up process in its boot up process that may solve this problem. Another thing I learned from the level 3 support guy is that the cable modem has to be reset by unplugging it's power if I want to move the output cable to a different device, such as from the window box to the freebsd box or to a router. The bottom line is I have things working now and there was nothing wrong with either my window box or my freebsd box. Its just the Time Warner cable modem box and the non-standard way it's configured. I had my suspicions, but I had no way to actually know. Cable modems work the same here: they become 'attached' to a given mac address and have to be reset when moved to a new device. Best to use a router to save that one. Simply unplugging and plugging in the cable should have told FBSD to reconfigure that network. Providing more complete information to the list for help may have given you the solution sooner. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/02/12 08:41, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:20:02 +1000 Da Rock articulated: Both networking in FreeBSD _and_ Winblows can be difficult at times. My point is that Winblows is not some magical fairy that can make everything better. It doesn't. It quite often gets it wrong, and when it does its a b**ch to fix- especially now with the newer versions; it just just gets harder and harder to fix. And (forget your phd) considering both myself and the other tech have _Microsoft_ certs and I topped in networking in that same certification thats saying something, do you think? A degree != practical knowledge. The only thing you are telling me is that you are a failure with no practical knowledge of what you are doing. You display an obvious disdain for the OS, so how can you even pretend to be objective? That is like me going on a jury with a predisposed hated of the defendant. Guess how that is going to turn out. It is like me putting together model planes. I hate model planes and end up destroying them and conversely blaming the destruction on the planes. It is exactly what you are doing. You obviously are a failure at networking in a Microsoft environment, so go back to whatever it is that you are semi capable of doing, which will also save your employer monies spent on time wasted. Unless of course this happens to be your own unit, in which case run down the block and find a 12 year old and have him/her fix it for you. Given that the other tech in question asked me to help him, and he is a Winblows nut like yourself, I think this premise can be dismissed out of hand. I won't even bother to qualify the rest, I wouldn't want to ruin your delusion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 03/31/12 05:17, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Karel Miklav wrote: Could you please recommend me a home printer that works nicely with FreeBSD? HP inkjets aren't that bad, FreeBSD drivers are allright, but I'd like to shift towards some kind of PostScript laser. Xerox Phaser 6500 looks nice, but I can not economically justify my appetite. Is there a cheaper alternative or maybe PostScript printers aren't that good idea anyway, heh? The Phaser 6500 has some good specifications. Genuine Adobe PostScript 3, gigabit Ethernet, 24 PPM. The duty cycle is 4,000 pages per month, which is very low. Toner is expensive. Reviews are somewhat mixed. It should work with FreeBSD, certainly for text. For graphics output, Gutenprint doesn't have a setting specifically for the 6500, but one of the similar printers probably will work. Don't expect photo quality, color lasers have to do halftones. Depending. Xerox C410 used a Fiery engine onboard which produced dramatic results- awesome photo quality I have yet to see even in an inkjet. Not sure what the Phasers are like though; they're not actually Xerox designed per se, but use the Xerox processes so hence the brand. Anyway, I digress. The critical point is the print engine- if it says Fiery grab it don't let go! :) Results may vary a little between brands, but anything with Fiery in it is better than without. And you don't need Gutenprint because thats what Gutenprint is attempting to emulate. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 03/31/12 07:23, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:38:36 +0200, Karel Miklav wrote: Could you please recommend me a home printer that works nicely with FreeBSD? HP inkjets aren't that bad, FreeBSD drivers are allright, but I'd like to shift towards some kind of PostScript laser. Xerox Phaser 6500 looks nice, but I can not economically justify my appetite. Is there a cheaper alternative or maybe PostScript printers aren't that good idea anyway, heh? Allow me to mention some things that are worth investing in. 1. Network connection. Don't bother with USB stuff. Buy a printer that offers Ethernet and maybe also WLAN, this will save you many trouble, and you are free to put the printer wherever you want. 2. Standard language. Postscript and PCL. Make sure the printer understands at least one of them. PCL is very common among HP printers. Regarding drivers - you don't need them. PS is the default output format for printing from every application. Printer filter collections such as apsfilter or CUPS tend to support non-PS printers very well, and it's quite easy to write your own printer filter (may even be a one-liner) using ghostscript. There's nothing wrong with PS because (as I said) you don't need any drivers, but the data transfer may need some time, and the processing speed depends on how fast and how good (!) the PS interpreter in the printer is. In my experience (with the printers I'm going to mention at the end of this message) PCL is faster. +1. +1 +1 +1 ;) A definite must! Cannot be emphasised enough; the others are manufacturer errors! 3. Laser printer. Don't believe that inkpee printers are genereally cheaper. They are not. The only excuse for using them is that you need photo quality color prints (requiring the proper paper, too). Usually by the time you need to replace a cartridge you may want to buy another printer- it will take you that long to go through the cartridge (4000 prints as opposed to the 40 in an inkjet that you _may_ get out of it). Remember you have to pay nearly the same amount _somewhere_; either through ink/toner or initial cost (or pain :) ). 4. Additional functionalities. Before buying something, ask yourself what you need. Does it need to have a scanner? Does the scanner part support FreeBSD? Is there a way to scan to local storage (e. g. USB stick) in the printer? Does it need a sheet feeder for scan input? Does it need to scan photo positive/negative films? Does it need to fax? I have had good luck with my army of laser printers here. HP Laserjet II, 4, 4000 duplex, as well as a Samsung color laserprinter CLX-2160. All this stuff works out of the box. I don't have any need for inkpee. Photos can be printed at much better quality at my local drugstore, if I need that. The printer filters are gs one-liners I wrote myself, because I speak PCL to the laser printer, and some splix gibberish using foo2qpdl to the (sadly USB connected) color printer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 03/31/12 08:32, RW wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:14:20 -0400 Mike Jeays wrote: I strongly recommend a laser printer over an inkjet even for home use. The reduced running costs and better reliability are easily worth the lack of colour, IMO. How do they compare for light and occasional use? I'm thinking in terms of a few pages, a few times a year, so presumably the consumables become perishables. Quite well. Toner doesn't dry up :) Watch the older type fusers though- they can develop 'flat spots' on the rollers. The newer printers use a ceramic type fuser which has fast warm-up and no flat spot troubles. Also keep the dust low on _any_ printer and it will last longer and perform better. Dusty paper can cause major issues (both printing and mechanical) as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Security in Multiuser Environments
On 03/31/12 17:46, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: schu...@ime.usp.br Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:44:16 -0300 Message-id: 20120330224416.13643xk4rsfd2...@webmail.ime.usp.br schu...@ime.usp.br wrote: Hello, I would like to raise a discussion about the security features of FreeBSD as a whole and how they might be employed to actually derive some meaningful guarantees. We have a list specialy for freebsd-security@. Please use it. Hang on, hold the phone: The security list (specifically) is for security announcements. At least that what it said when I subscribed to it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Printer recommendation please
On 03/31/12 21:32, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:17:52 +1000, Da Rock wrote: Watch the older type fusers though- they can develop 'flat spots' on the rollers. The newer printers use a ceramic type fuser which has fast warm-up and no flat spot troubles. But it's still possible to get replacement parts for older office printers. I said _office_ printers, even used ones that you can pick up for few dollars or a bottle of beer. Spare parts aren't expensive, and in many cases, you can install them yourself. The funny thing: Even for 10 years old printers (and even older ones), they are available. Try _that_ with a home consumer inkpee printer! :-) Also keep the dust low on _any_ printer and it will last longer and perform better. Dusty paper can cause major issues (both printing and mechanical) as well. Sometimes rubber parts tend to harden. There are a few tricks to make them soft again, but the typical solution is to replace them for few dollars. Note that this isn't something you'll notice in 2 - 5 years of use. You often need 10 or more years to find fail and trouble in a good printer. Good printer == office printer, as I said befire. :-) All absolutely true. My point was the few 'gotchas' for printers and what to watch for. Also the better features for new printers. I seem to remember using eucalyptus oil to revive cracked rubber - not that it happened much with the latest rubbers (2k+). A little alcohol cleaner will clean them up usually to get them going again for another 100 or so pages- usually a lot more :) You can also use a little mag polish on the exterior panels of the older ones to remove stubborn marks and make them look new again (unless they've gone mediteranean and been a bit sunburnt). Parts (for the old and new - trick is to find a supplier, a quick google will do) are a dime a dozen almost - can be touchier on the colour printers though, not that the parts on those wear out too quickly: you can usually expect 30k out of those parts anyway- a lifetime for those printers. Try and get a printer _designed_ to run 100k before servicing (like Kyocera), and you'll buy a new printer before buying a new cartridge (possibly). A 1010/1020 did that, I'm not sure what the (descendant) newer models are. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ps, clang and make variables
On 03/31/12 23:56, andrew clarke wrote:
On Sat 2012-03-31 20:32:04 UTC+1000, R Skinner
(ro...@herveybayaustralia.com.au) wrote:
Stupid question, but I need to clarify and make sure I'm right here:
what should I see as the running process if clang is compiling? ATM I
see cc1plus.
clang for C, clang++ for C++
Figures... not working then.
I'm trying to set CC and friends make variables to clang for a build,
but it doesn't appear to be 'sticking'. It seems to change the shell env
to bash, but that shouldn't be the problem. So I'm trying to work out
whats up.
I have this in /etc/make.conf:
.include /etc/make.clang.conf
and /etc/make.clang.conf itself:
.if !defined(CC) || ${CC} == cc
CC=clang
.endif
.if !defined(CXX) || ${CXX} == c++
CXX=clang++
.endif
.if !defined(CPP) || ${CPP} == cpp
CPP=clang -E
.endif
# Don't die on warnings
NO_WERROR=
WERROR=
# Don't forget this when using Jails!
NO_FSCHG=
This is from http://wiki.freebsd.org/BuildingFreeBSDWithClang which
talks about building the FreeBSD kernel base, but it's also used by
the Ports system.
Another option is to set CC CXX explicitly:
cd /usr/ports/*/foobar
make CC=clang CXX=clang++
And thats whats not working here.
FWIW I'm trying to build libreoffice with clang as it doesn't build, or
more accurately doesn't build and test correctly. It doesn't appear to
honor the CC variables (CC, CXX, CPP, etc). Worth a shot anyway :)
I've never tried building LibreOffice at all, let alone with Clang,
but apparently it can be done:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-clang-success-td3788899.html
Apparently. And given the errors I've been having I'm trying to give it
a go.
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Re: using clang
On 04/01/12 05:45, Jakub Lach wrote: /etc/make.conf : .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*) set clang as you like .endif clang for ports, YMMV as always. http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsAndClang Yes but setting that does not seem to affect the ports build operation - make.conf or -DCC etc, Seems to be poorly implemented, setting that should set --cc in the configure, etc. libreoffice 3.5.x builds and run sucessfully with clang 3.0 and (upcoming) 3.1 - @bapt So wait for libreoffice 3.5 for clang support. Not an option ATM. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/ps-clang-and-make-variables-tp5608586p5609272.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Trouble installing py-sqlite3 port for python3.x
On 04/01/12 06:00, Modulok wrote: List, I'm *guessing* this is more of FreeBSD problem than a python one, so I'll ask on this list. I'm trying to import sqlite3 in python3.2 on FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE and ran into trouble: $ python3.2 ... import sqlite3 Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, inmodule File /usr/local/lib/python3.2/sqlite3/__init__.py, line 23, inmodule from sqlite3.dbapi2 import * File /usr/local/lib/python3.2/sqlite3/dbapi2.py, line 26, inmodule from _sqlite3 import * ImportError: No module named _sqlite3 I assumed I was missing some operating system dependent sqlite3 package. When I attempt to install the 'ports/databases/py-sqlite3' port, it worked but it installed it for python2.6. (Importing sqlite3 works in 2.6) There are no config options for this port to select a python version. Similarly there's no sqlite3 related config options for the python3.2 port. I then tried to use the python specific install tool, 'pip-3.2' to install the python module: # pip-3.2 install pysqlite Unfortunately, it fails: Downloading/unpacking pysqlite Real name of requirement pysqlite is pysqlite Downloading pysqlite-2.6.3.tar.gz (74Kb): 74Kb downloaded Running setup.py egg_info for package pysqlite Traceback (most recent call last): File string, line 14, inmodule File /usr/local/lib/python3.2/codecs.py, line 300, in decode (result, consumed) = self._buffer_decode(data, self.errors, final) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 98: invalid continuation byte Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: Traceback (most recent call last): File string, line 14, inmodule File /usr/local/lib/python3.2/codecs.py, line 300, in decode (result, consumed) = self._buffer_decode(data, self.errors, final) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 98: invalid continuation byte Command python setup.py egg_info failed with error code 1 Storing complete log in /root/.pip/pip.log The complete log file doesn't reveal much else. My environment doesn't contain any python env var. I don't have any python config files overriding install locations or anything. My /etc/make.conf file contains no python variables. I can display UTF-8 characters on the console just fine e.g: $ pytho3.2 ... chr(0xe4) 'ä' Suggestions, thoughts, ideas? Perhaps try ports@? But first try make build-depends-list to obtain more info, but it looks like it may not be supported. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working under TW? Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from communicating? What does ifconfig say? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/01/12 10:52, Fbsd8 wrote: Da Rock wrote: On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working under TW? Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from communicating? What does ifconfig say? No firewall running and NIC status is no carrier Actually I asked what the output of ifconfig was, but it looks like your cable is not connected (or wifi- hard to tell without output. It preempts many questions). Try `ifconfig NIC up`, check the cable, etc. FreeBSD should be responding just like Winblows here, but your network isn't connected for whatever reason that will probably be clearer when we know what ifconfig looks like. Hence dhcp will not work in these circumstances, at least until you connect your network... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Access to Time Warner cable network
On 04/01/12 11:22, Al Plant wrote: Da Rock wrote: On 04/01/12 10:52, Fbsd8 wrote: Da Rock wrote: On 04/01/12 09:52, Fbsd8 wrote: Just purchased an account on the northern Ohio Time Warner cable system. Having problem connecting to their service. Seems their dhcp server has an ip address of 10.2.0.1 which is not public routable. I know my Freebsd 8.2 box functions because it worked fine under att service which I just left for Time Warner service. MY xp laptop works fine with time warner. I can see that during the connection hand shake they first issue ip addresses 192.168.x.x then end up with real public routable ip address for dns and my ip address. Just the dhcp ip is 10.2.0.1. XP seems to handle this connection hand shake ok. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get Freebsd 8.2 working under TW? Have you got a firewall or something else blocking dhcp from communicating? What does ifconfig say? No firewall running and NIC status is no carrier Actually I asked what the output of ifconfig was, but it looks like your cable is not connected (or wifi- hard to tell without output. It preempts many questions). Try `ifconfig NIC up`, check the cable, etc. FreeBSD should be responding just like Winblows here, but your network isn't connected for whatever reason that will probably be clearer when we know what ifconfig looks like. Hence dhcp will not work in these circumstances, at least until you connect your network... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha, Make sure your connection to Road Runner or TW is set for DHCP. And make sure you can ping your NIC card and like Da Rock says see whats up with iconfig. If there is a switch on the line make sure it is plugged in. I have one customer I work for that lost his signal from TW Roadrunner and they had to come out to replace some link to a failed splitter on the house connection. Here in Hawaii we have a bad corrosion problem from the salt air. TW also needs the electric service to work here as well. Did they come to your location and run a test to their equipment? My neighbor had a recent cable outage of an existing cable on our block that was too low and a moving van hit it. Apparently the Windows system works, so I'd assume all that side is ok- just FBSD box is the issue. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem
On 04/01/12 13:18, jangkawij...@students.itb.ac.id wrote:
I've got the problem like this
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN:
loading from master file /etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang failed: extra input
text
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa/IN: not
loaded due to errors.
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]:
/etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db:2: no current owner name
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: loading from master
file /etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db failed: no owner
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 0.ip6.arpa/IN: not loaded due to
errors.
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone 8.B.D.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA/IN: zone
serial (0) unchanged. zone may fail to transfer to slaves.
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: dns_rdata_fromtext:
/etc/namedb/master/db.domain:5: near '3h': extra input text
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: loading from
master file /etc/namedb/master/db.domain failed: extra input text
Apr 1 17:03:15 johannesang named[576]: zone johannesang.com/IN: not loaded due
to errors
here is localhost-reverse.db file
$FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/master/localhost-reverse.db,v 1.1.14.1 2010/02/10
00:2
$TTL 3h
@ SOA localhost. nobody.localhost. 42 1d 12h 1w 3h
Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL
NS localhost.
1.0.0 PTR localhost.
1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 PTR localhost.
here is my db.domain file
$TTL3600
johannesang.com. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com. (
201204010042 1d12h 1w 3h
Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL
;DNS Servers
johannesang.com. IN NS host.johannesang.com.
;Machine Names
host.johannesang.com.IN A 167.205.79.105
;Aliases
www IN CNAME host.johannesang.com.
here is my db.johannesang file
$TTL3600
79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA host.johannesang.com. root.johannesang.com.
201204010042 1d12h 1w 3h
Serial, Refresh, Retry, Expire, Neg. cache TTL
DNS Servers
Is this a typo or actually in the file?
79.205.167.in-addr.arpa. IN NS host.johannesang.com.
;Machine IPs
105IN PTR host.johannesang.com.
105IN PTR www.johannesang.com.
and here is my named.conf
key rndc-key {
algorithm hmac-md5;
secret +W8n6komoiD9BRAfbbT//QsntsFScEs6gUXArJuH4Nk=;
};
zone johannesang.com {
type master;
file /etc/namedb/master/db.domain;
allow-transfer { localhost; };
allow-update { key rndc-key; };
};
zone 79.205.167.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file /etc/namedb/master/db.johannesang;
allow-transfer { localhost; };
allow-update { key rndc-key; };
};
I need your help thanks
Did you update your serials?
I'd go back and check your zone files (for starters), and reread the
bind admin book on their format.
HTH
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Re: Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind
On 03/27/12 20:41, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:50:06 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: Polytropon writes: Speech recognition requires training. Both the user and the system have to learn from each other. But you have a learning curve everywhere, be it typing, talking, or reading from a Braille output. In the case of speech recognition, that's a curve many might be willing to travel if they had reason to believe it was effort wisely invested. There are a couple of ports that cleim to do speech recognition. Does anyone have experience with them? When it comes to speech recognition, the only two applications that seem to work reliably at all levels are Siri on iPhone 4S and Dragon NaturallySpeaking, neither of which are obviously available on FreeBSD. I don't believe that there is even a *nix/BSD version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking in production. In any case, I do have a friend who is severely vision impaired that uses that software with amazing results. She can definitely dictate a letter faster than I can manually create one. The biggest contender in ports is sphinx- libraries are used as a basis for siri and the google offering. This is apparently used by phone companies, etc. Each of which use teams of developers to get it working the way they want. Getting it to work on an individual basis... Apparently the results will primarily vary based on the dictionaries that are supplied, so it does mean one may work better than the other. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/28/12 08:03, Open Slate wrote:
Jumping in a bit late. I have had a goal of FreeBSD on a slate/tablet
computer for roughly ten years. The comments in this thread echo my
experience. Put simply, the primary focus of FreeBSD has been as a server.
The Gnome team has worked hard to bring the OS to the desktop, with limited
success.
There are many things required before my slate concept can be realized.
o power management
o pen digitizer interface
o HWR
o pen friendly UI comparable to Newton OS
o components that support a self-made (maker) approach to the hardware
I still hold on to my goal. No telling when enough people will get
interested.
+1
I'm not sure the pen interface is particularly necessary, but the touch
screen should be able to handle both pen and finger touch.
Another thought is in the apps to be used with the tablet- obviously
they need to be binary packages, so that presents another problem there
(as has come up on this list many times).
As for the last, I have yet to find a whitebox laptop (particularly
AMD based); apart from the dev kits I haven't seen any whitebox
tablets either.
On Mar 27, 2012 9:46 AM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:28:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:28:50 +1000
From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
Subject: Re: Vivaldi Tablet
To: Chuck Swigercswi...@mac.com
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On 03/27/12 09:32, Chuck Swiger wrote:
On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Da Rock wrote:
To ex...
you guys have any thoughts about a tiny {7} keyboard
plugin? i'm wondering if my VBC project might work with
this tablet. i've never seen a keyboard that small. nice
tablet, tho.
gary
PS: i keep looking for tablets with a real keyboard. not
very much. So far... .
Isn't that the point of a tablet? To touch rather than type? Otherwise
it becomes just a disjointed laptop... :)
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Re: Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind
On 03/28/12 15:28, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Jerryje...@seibercom.net wrote: When it comes to speech recognition, the only two applications that seem to work reliably at all levels are Siri on iPhone 4S and Dragon NaturallySpeaking, neither of which are obviously available on FreeBSD. I don't believe that there is even a *nix/BSD version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking in production. The Windows version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking is, however, reputed to work well on wine, which is in ports. One of the D-NS developers (or maybe it was a tech support person) was helping out on the wine-users forum for a while; I don't recall having seen her post there recently, but this _might_ be because D-NS is working so well with recent wine versions that no one needs help with it. That would be really useful. Keeping that one in the memory banks... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Off-Topic: Computing for the Blind
On 03/26/12 19:32, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 25/03/12 23:33, Barbara La Scala wrote: Apologies for the off topic posting but my stepfather is blind and he wants my advice about how to get online. I have no idea where to start looking for information on hardware and/or software for him. However, I vaguely remember someone on this list saying they were visually impaired. If I'm remembering correctly, I'd really appreciate it if that person would get in touch with me. Thanks Barbara ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I know this is the FreeBSD forum, but there is a Linux ready made live distro that might help. It is called Knoppix Adriane, was conceived for the authors blind wife. It can be found at www.knoppix.net. I hope I haven't upset anyone for talking Linux here. :) I'm going to have to dredge up my copy and check that out - it sounds very interesting primarily because the techniques could be easily adapted here :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/27/12 01:42, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 07:21:51PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: Considering that FreeBS positions itself 'primrily' as a _server_ OS, I would suggest that it is 'unlikely'. I suppose iXsystems and the PC-BSD project might be a place to send out feelers as well, being more interested in end-user stuff than the pretty server-sysadmin heavy crowd here. There are a lot of people in this community interested in more than just servers, though, so I don't see why the fact FreeBSD is good for servers should be an impediment to seeking out people with an interest in tablet ports. *I*, for one, would hope that porting to the 'Rasberry Pi' has higher priority. So would I. If someone decided to tackle the Vivaldi platform, though, I wouldn't complain. Now, if somebody in the 'Vivaldi' community wants to gather up _all_ the relevant 'technical data' for configuring/accessing/programming *ALL* the included hardware, and -publish- it in one EASILY ACCESSIBLE place, that would be a good start. This might be a start: http://opentablets.org/page/index.html/_/news/makeplaylive-sparknow-vivaldi-zenithink-c71-r13 If such a somebody were to _also_ provide 'funding' for a porting project, that would undoubtedly move such a project to a high position on the 'to do' list'. Otherwise, Skippy, you, -YOURSELF-. will need to find a 'guru' with the appropriate knowledge/skills *and* enough interest' in the project to tackle it. I think the point of the initial email to start this thread was to see if there were people in the community with an interest in working on this project, and might actually be a fairly logical step toward an effort to find a 'guru' to work on it. Actually I think the point of the email was to prop up the member numbers on the site. The platform itself is just an ordinary aPad which can be hacked. As for the open source community interest, well it already runs linux natively- android- so not entirely sure what the fuss is about (might explain the population there). If anyone was interested in porting FreeBSD to tablets there are plenty of dev kits out there to play with; and if the cost is excessive then grab an aPad off eBay for $50. To explain the major hurdle in porting to a tablet, you'd need to probably find an alternative windowing solution then Xorg (low memory, especially in vivaldi)- I'm not 100% sure what iOS and Android use. Might be interesting... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/27/12 09:29, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:07:25AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 03/27/12 01:42, Chad Perrin wrote: I think the point of the initial email to start this thread was to see if there were people in the community with an interest in working on this project, and might actually be a fairly logical step toward an effort to find a 'guru' to work on it. Actually I think the point of the email was to prop up the member numbers on the site. The platform itself is just an ordinary aPad which can be hacked. As for the open source community interest, well it already runs linux natively- android- so not entirely sure what the fuss is about (might explain the population there). Android is not the same as a full-featured Unix-like OS. It's a miserably underpowered half-measure, whose only redeeming feature is that it's not Apple iOS or MS WP7. There's a bit of a difference, there. . . . not that I much care about tablets per se, right now, though it would be nice if I could get a ThinkPad X-series tablet-laptop working with FreeBSD. I just wouldn't equate Android with a general-purpose Unix-like OS, even if that OS uses a Linux kernel and gets most of the userland subtly wrong. LOL. Thats my issue exactly, but its handy for a smartphone... It does make me wonder what a FBSD version of a similar appliance would be like? If anyone was interested in porting FreeBSD to tablets there are plenty of dev kits out there to play with; and if the cost is excessive then grab an aPad off eBay for $50. I'm not sure how that disputes what I said. It wasn't. More to dispute what the OP said actually :) To explain the major hurdle in porting to a tablet, you'd need to probably find an alternative windowing solution then Xorg (low memory, especially in vivaldi)- I'm not 100% sure what iOS and Android use. Might be interesting... Yeah, there could be some real challenges there. The question is whether someone with the wherewithal to do the work would find the challenge attractive. I would... time is the issue though. This is a long term goal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/27/12 09:32, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Da Rock wrote: To explain the major hurdle in porting to a tablet, you'd need to probably find an alternative windowing solution then Xorg (low memory, especially in vivaldi)- I'm not 100% sure what iOS and Android use. iOS uses a descendant of the Display PostScript WindowServer from NEXTSTEP, although the locals have switched over to Core Graphics with Quartz as the 2D compositing engine [1], along with OpenGL ES for 3D. Interesting... Android would be using something else obviously FOSS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Intercepting X11 events
I'm not 100% sure where else to ask this. I have an annoying window that disappears when I click close (ha ha, yes I know it will usually do that, but this one doesn't go away) but it is unable to cooperate with the system tray so it simply becomes invisible, and hangs about in the background. In my investigationings I had a brainwave that since I cannot change the program (not without enormous effort) in the short term, maybe I can find a way to terminate the program and manage it externally with a script. So I'm looking to find a wrapper, or a script that can intercept the close event and kill the process (can't find a better way to handle it). Any ideas? The DE is lightweight (Icewm, LXDE, similar) so the tray is either non existent or incompatible; the app itself is (#%$!) java. Yep, thats right - it only speaks Gnome/KDE... Cheers Afterword: And yes, it took me that long to figure out the Java systray problem and the lack of a solution in my googling. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS locking and linux NFS server
On 03/25/12 23:59, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi all! I have a Linux Host (2.6.32 kernel, Debian stable) providong NFS shares. Locking files on that share works fine for linux clients [0] while it fails on a freebsd 9.0-STABLE system. The interwebs indicate there have been problems witha buggy linux implementation back in 2006 but no more hits for that problem in recent times so I assume it's fixed? root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:27 0 # kldstat -v | grep nfs 341 nfscommon 386 nfslockd 344 nfsd 385 nfssvc 342 nfs 343 nfscl 384 nfslock root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:28 0 # flock test -c ls flock: test: Operation not supported root@freebsd /mnt/ 11:31 0 # mount | grep nfs 10.70.255.8:/home/ on /mnt/ (nfs) This may or may not be helpful, but I can't think of anything else at this time: what version NFS on both sides? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. FreeBSD on a tablet would be an interesting idea. Not sure about this one though... Looks like one of those ones going on eBay for $50. You can always grab one of those and hack it to run FBSD. Perhaps this should go to embedded though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Vivaldi Tablet
On 03/26/12 09:39, Jerome Herman wrote: On 26/03/2012 01:29, Da Rock wrote: On 03/26/12 06:49, Skippy 311 wrote: With a large portion of the open source community looking towards the Vivaldi Tablet as the push for mobile linux, The site reminds me of someone organising a large party and no one showing up :) Indeed, I felt very alone going there too. I was curious if there was any plans to make an official push to put something together for this tablet. It is alot to ask from FreeBSD, but to put it bluntly, the more this tablet can offer the better it will be. Support from FreeBSD on this tablet would be a wonderful addition to the community being built around this tablet, and I hope to see FreeBSD on board in the near future. FreeBSD on a tablet would be an interesting idea. Not sure about this one though... Looks like one of those ones going on eBay for $50. You can always grab one of those and hack it to run FBSD. The main problem (though it is actually a FreeBSD strength) is that most FreeBSD dev code to solve their own problems. I don not think I am wrong when I say that a vast majority of FreeBSD contributor are also heavy users of the functionalities they code. So the question is Are there enough FreeBSD dev that see any kind of interest in having a tablet ?. Personally I still don't, even though quite a lot of people tried to explain it to me. Also the site lacks the main thing that could get the FreeBSD community on the spot : specs. I managed to learn it was a 1ghz ARM with 512MB ram and 4GB storage, and that is about it. Arm architecture being what it is (basically whatever the constructor decided to use at that moment with no standard as to how he did it) there is absolutely no way to start any kind of port short of reverse engeniring the linux version. My personal opinion is not worth the trouble. I'm still weighing up the options, but I would. A few barriers to surmount though... Perhaps this should go to embedded though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Java and the system tray
General question: I'm trying to get Jitsi running with video (please, no suggestions on other apps - I know and tested them from ports), and while that is not going so well my most annoying bug bear is when I click the close button on the title bar it disappears! Heaven forbid I forget to actually use file-quit instead :/ Java doesn't like the system tray (IceWM - java spits a whole lot of error msgs about failing to initialise the java.awt.systemtray), and I cannot get Jitsi back after that. Does anyone know how to get Java to play nice? Or how to get the WM it deal with it properly? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD: syslog-ng: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='xx', error='No buffer space available (yy)'
On 03/22/12 19:00, Traiano Welcome wrote: Hi List I've been seeing the following in the messages log of my freebsd syslog server for quite some time now: --- Mar 20 12:19:12 syslog2 syslog-ng[35313]: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='12', error='No buffer space available (55)' Mar 20 12:19:12 syslog2 syslog-ng[35313]: Connection broken; time_reopen='60' Mar 20 12:19:12 syslog2 syslog-ng[35313]: I/O error occurred while writing; fd='13', error='No buffer space available (55)' Mar 20 12:19:12 syslog2 syslog-ng[35313]: Connection broken; time_reopen='60' --- These happen at a frequency of about 7 per minute on average. See attached trend graphs for an idea of the volume of traffic we're doing, as well as the memory and cpu utilisation trends on this server during this period. As can be seen from the graphs, load does not seem to be the issue. Occasionally during the week, the system freezes and requires a reboot, I think it's related to the above message, though I'm not sure. My question is: What does this error mean, and how can I resolve it? I have tried to frame this as an operating system kernel resource issue, and experimented with increasing the freebsd kernel sysctls for UDP performance: --- [root@syslog2mailto:r...@syslog2.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za /var/log]# sysctl kern.ipc.nmbclusters=102400 kern.ipc.nmbclusters: 25600 - 102400 [root@syslog2mailto:r...@syslog2.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za /var/log]# sysctl kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=201326592 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 100663296 - 201326592 [root@syslog2mailto:r...@syslog2.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za /var/log]# sysctl net.inet.udp.recvspace=33554432 net.inet.udp.recvspace: 16777216 - 33554432 --- This has reduced the frequency of the errors a little, but in general the problem still remains. Syslog version: -- [root@syslog2]# syslog-ng -V syslog-ng 2.0.10 -- FreeBSD version: -- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0 -- Any help would be much appreciated! I'm sorry I can't shed some light on a solution, but this happens on ping and some other network related apps and tools for me too; just not often enough for me concern with atm due to higher priorities. Perhaps net@ might be a better resource for an answer to this one? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: INN port version 2.4.6 instead of 2.5.X
On 03/22/12 20:17, Bastien Semene wrote: Hi, I can't find an explanation of why the port of INN (news/inn, http://www.isc.org/software/inn) is still on version 2.4.6 (EOL) instead of 2.5.X. Is there someone who can enlighten me ? And how can I find this kind of information on my own ? Perhaps try ports@ and an email to the maintainer? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about change file mode
On 03/22/12 20:44, Xavier FreeBSD questions wrote: Hi tot all, Why don't change the files mode ? casa# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 1GB/ casa# cd /mnt/JetFlash\ Transcend\ 1GB/ casa# ls -lh total 21940 -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel16M 21 mar 00:12 COLOR.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 4,7M 21 mar 01:26 COLOR_1.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 124k 21 mar 02:13 COLOR_2.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel21k 21 mar 01:16 Untitled 1.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 9,3k 22 mar 00:17 Untitled 2.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 124k 21 mar 02:13 kscan_0002.jpeg.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel20k 21 mar 00:12 ocr.txt.pdf casa# chmod -x * casa# ls -l total 21940 -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 17270757 21 mar 00:12 COLOR.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 4866360 21 mar 01:26 COLOR_1.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel127452 21 mar 02:13 COLOR_2.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 21829 21 mar 01:16 Untitled 1.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 9561 22 mar 00:17 Untitled 2.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel127452 21 mar 02:13 kscan_0002.jpeg.pdf -r-xr-xr-x 1 xxavi wheel 20513 21 mar 00:12 ocr.txt.pdf casa# For starters the filesystem is FAT with no real sense of user permissions, what does ls -l /dev/da0* say? This should be determined by the devfs.rules. This should determine the permissions of the files on the device, and I doubt that they can be changed or manipulated once mounted (what would be the point?). Please correct me if I'm wrong though :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Convert mp3 to audio CD
On 03/21/12 13:10, Steve Bertrand wrote: I know this is a backwards request, as I haven't had to go from mp3 to audio CD format in at least 10 years, but I do now. What is available to do so? There is something in ports to do this - don't ask me which, but I noticed it in there recently :) It was in the list with k3b and other cd burning utils. Sorry thats all I can remember atm. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dbus, epiphany, rekonq
On 03/21/12 19:29, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 04:12:50AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-03-19 13:21, Anton Shterenlikht skrev: I can't lauch www/epiphany or www/rekonq on ia64 -current, due to some dbus issue: TZAV ps ax|grep dbus 1435 - Is 0:00.02 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --sess 1434 2- I0:00.01 dbus-launch --autolaunch=fb0372ea595109904f5a068e0180 --binary-synta 41284 5 RL+ 0:00.00 grep dbus TZAV epiphany ** (epiphany:41285): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dyUjnhLBwE: No such file or directory TZAV rekonq unnamed app(41291): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dyUjnhLBwE: No such file or directory unnamed app(41290): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. TZAV ps ax | grep dbus 1435 - Is 0:00.02 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --sess 1434 2- I0:00.01 dbus-launch --autolaunch=fb0372ea595109904f5a068e0180 --binary-synta 41294 5 RL+ 0:00.00 grep dbus What am I doing wrong? I understand dbus is a required part of a modern browser, it is no longer an option, right? Many thanks You do have this in /etc/rc.conf dbus_enable=YES I didn't think it was necessary, as firefox3 launches dbus-daemon on startup. But I'll give it a go. Thanks This got me: you need dbus_enable in the rc.conf (for global, this I have observed for a long time), but you apparently need it _per session_ as well. dbus and hal work together at the system level to facilitate device addition and removal notification; dbus at the session level provides notification between the apps and the system notifications (redundant given FreeBSDs already in place notification systems). This how the file managers add new devices and filesystems to the place listings. To do this you need to have a dbus session running per user, and a few more convoluted processes to ensure each app uses it. So you use the addition to the xsession script posted, console-kit (possibly), and dbus-launch for every app. Fun... groan As to whether all this applies in your particular case... but essentially this how it is used. HIH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dualboot with Windows 7
On 03/19/12 17:49, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:29:22 +0100, David Demelier wrote: On 19/03/2012 07:28, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:05:58 +0100, David Demelier wrote: Hello, I try to create a dualboot with Windows 7, I set up partitions like that : ada0s1 - NTFS (windows recovery) ada0s2 - NTFS (windows main partition) ada0s3 - BSD ada0s3a - freebsd-swap (3G) ada0s3b - freebsd-ufs / (remaining space from drive) Erm... according to traditional partitioning, isn't the 'a' partition reserved for booting, 'b' for swap? I see you have installed everything into one / partition which technically is no problem and should work, but it's not on the boot partition. You're right, but I made a mistake while writing, my a partition is / and b is swap. Okay. And then I let the installer complete the step, because FreeBSD didn't let you (since 9.0) choose between the boot manager nothing was installed and the boot directly goes to Windows 7. You need to install all the required stages for booting. If I understand the process correctly, the slice 's3' needs code to branch to the boot partition (which is supposed to be the 'a' partition), and the boot selector needs to be accessed from the beginning of the disk - you said you're using EasyBCD for this which is okay. I followed the part 13.3.2 from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html I think this should be enough, isn't it? it says bsdlabel -B will replace the boot1 and boot2 stage so all of them are installed. Looks correct. Now the question is how to branch the a partition as the boot partition ? No need. As soon as the branching from ada0-start - ada0s3 has been processed, the 'a' partition ada0s3a will be accessed as it is the boot partition. It will then continue stage 1 and 2 and finally access the loader, which will load the kernel. In 13.3.2 it is explained as follows: They [Stage One, /boot/boot1, and Stage Two, /boot/boot2] are located outside file systems, in the first track of the boot slice, starting with the first sector. This is where boot0, or any other boot manager, expects to find a program to run which will continue the boot process. The number of sectors used is easily determined from the size of /boot/boot. In your case, the boot slice (for FreeBSD) is ada0s3 where the boot manager EasyBCD will branch to. Getting just a cursor (as you described) makes it hard to identify where the process hangs. If EasyBCD is the last thing you see, I assume the FreeBSD boot process isn't even initiated. Every part of it (MBR boot manager, boot0, boot1, boot2 and loader) would issue some kind of text when accessed. I couldn't say exactly how to do this now (been a long time), but you should be able to boot using the Windows loader (this may have changed in recent editions. Don't think so though). This will give you a choice between Windows or FreeBSD and defaults, timers, etc during boot. Used to be able to do it under system properties I believe; run a google search should provide some examples. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dbus, epiphany, rekonq
On 03/19/12 23:07, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 01:44:23PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:21:29 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I can't lauch www/epiphany or www/rekonq on ia64 -current, due to some dbus issue: TZAV ps ax|grep dbus 1435 - Is 0:00.02 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --sess 1434 2- I0:00.01 dbus-launch --autolaunch=fb0372ea595109904f5a068e0180 --binary-synta 41284 5 RL+ 0:00.00 grep dbus TZAV epiphany ** (epiphany:41285): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dyUjnhLBwE: No such file or directory TZAV rekonq unnamed app(41291): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-dyUjnhLBwE: No such file or directory unnamed app(41290): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. TZAV ps ax | grep dbus 1435 - Is 0:00.02 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --sess 1434 2- I0:00.01 dbus-launch --autolaunch=fb0372ea595109904f5a068e0180 --binary-synta 41294 5 RL+ 0:00.00 grep dbus What am I doing wrong? Have you checked the presence of the /tmp/dbus-dyUjnhLBwE socket? sure, it's not there. I understand dbus is a required part of a modern browser, it is no longer an option, right? What?! I don't think that this is an acceptable opinion. :-) Both browsers you mentioned are part of KDE or Gnome. THOSE heavily rely on DBUS, that's right, and due to the transition of dependencies, _their_ web browsers also do. For example, I'm not running DBUS here, but I run modern web browsers. I just don't run _those_ two. :-) So did you properly build your KDE and Gnome components with DBUS enabled, and all of their configurable dependencies also with DBUS enabled? It _may_ be that the use of DBUS is not among the default building options for one of the nested dependencies, and that one might be _the one_ that now shoots your foot. :-) Your ps listing indicates that you are running DBUS, so that shouldn't be the problem. Missing DBUS support in one of the required components _could_ be. ok, this makes is clearer. My dbus comes from www/firefox36: TZAV pwd /usr/ports/www/firefox36 TZAV make showconfig === The following configuration options are available for firefox-3.6.28,1: DBUS=on Enable D-BUS support SMB=off Enable smb:// URI support using gnomevfs DEBUG=off Build a debugging image LOGGING=off Enable additional log messages OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=off Enable some additional optimizations === Use 'make config' to modify these settings TZAV and firefox36 works fine. I build from ports. Neither rekonq nor epiphany have dbus options. My reading of the rekonq Makefile is that it uses devel/dbus-qt4. Anyway, these are installed: TZAV pkg info -xo dbus dbus-1.4.14_2: devel/dbus dbus-glib-0.94: devel/dbus-glib eggdbus-0.6_1: devel/eggdbus libdbusmenu-qt-0.9.0: devel/libdbusmenu-qt qt4-dbus-4.7.4: devel/dbus-qt4 qt4-qdbusviewer-4.7.4: devel/qt4-qdbusviewer TZAV Many thanks Have you got this in your session startup? May or may not be necessary if you're using kdm/gdm. ## test for an existing bus daemon, just to be safe if test -z $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS ; then ## if not found, launch a new one eval 'dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session' echo D-Bus per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS fi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Racoon failed to get subjectAltName
On 03/15/12 11:56, Da Rock wrote: I could be wrong in my assumption, but I cannot seem to get this to work for me and this error will not disappear while my problem continues. I'm trying to get a RoadWarrior setup for an Android L2TP/IPSec vpn. I had it working at one time on my LAN but failed getting through the pf firewall, so I stowed it while I was required to work on something else; unfortunately I lost the working config somehow (I think? This could be just the bug) and I had to start again- no biggie as I pulled the info off the net before so I could do it again. I recreated some new certificates (the old ones I used to test had expired- I only gave them a very short life for security reasons), and recreated what I thought I had before using xca (same as previously). These include the mandatory SAN: I use email:copy to set this. No amount of googling has helped my investigations, everything is still basically the same age as when I first set this up. But racoon insists the SAN is unavailable now. I've also tried turning off verify identity, but in spite it says the certificates don't match because of empty certificate requests; it would seem that it is still looking for the SAN even though it no longer says so. Googling also verifies that racoon _requires_ SAN to be set to work. I've tried other SAN types, but they don't seem to work either. A check on the certificate shows that it _is_ actually there on all the certificates, but racoon must be blind or something :) Can anyone shed some light on this? Has racoon developed a bug on this at some time? FWIW racoon wont even pass phase1 so I'd assume it is not working because of this problem. Just to update, phase 1 is half working if verify is off: there is a phase 1 connection between the server and android, but not between android and the server- hence my confusion and erroneous assumption. Only the android logs showed this problem. Phase 2 never comes (of course). Something does feel different getting this to work this time round, I just can't put my finger on it. And I cant figure what I've done differently. I still can't get my certificates right somehow. I'm not sure what I'm missing here either. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: start at boot, run as non-root
On 03/14/12 18:12, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 14/03/2012 07:30, n dhert wrote:
I have FreeBSD8.2.
Sedna, an XML database server, had no port in th FreeBSD ports collection
but has a binary compiled for FreeBSD8 on www.sedna.org.
I installed that.
To start it at boot I created a script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sedna :
---
#!/bin/sh
#
# PROVIDE: sedna
# REQUIRE: DAEMON
# KEYWORD: shutdown
#
. /etc/rc.subr
name=sedna
rcvar=${name}_enable
command=/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov
load_rc_config $name
: ${sedna_enable=NO}
run_rc_command $1
and added sedna_enable=YES at the end of my /etc/rc.conf
This way it starts at boot:
$ ps -jaxww | grep se_
root7064 1 7064 70640 Is??0:00.00
/home/opt/sedna/bin/se_gov -background-mode off -listen-address localhost
-port-number 5050 -ping-port-number 5151 -el-level 3 -alive-timeout 0
-stack-depth 4000
The deamon runs as root. I want it run by a non-root user, e.g. a user
'sedna''
How can I do that?
The sedna server binary se_gov has no option in its man-page to start the
program run as a different user ..
Add a variable:
${name}_user=sedna
to the init script. The rc(8) system will use su(1) to start up the
sedna process using your selected username. There's also ${name}_group
but that works a bit differently.
I'm intrigued that this software should be supported on FreeBSD
upstream, but not appear in ports. Are there some onerous license terms
or other obstacles[*]? If not, would you consider submitting your work
as a port?
Cheers,
Matthew
[*] Seems it uses Apache licensing according to http://www.sedna.org/,
which is exceedingly FreeBSD compatible, so I don't think licensing
would be an obstacle.
That would not be the problem, as the ports system can handle more
licenses than simply bsd compatible; Its merely recommended. To
illustrate, there are eval and commercial products in the ports tree.
You have to register and pay the organisation when you install and start
using (like komodo, others). The port is to ease installation on FreeBSD
an app that would be widely used.
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 03/15/12 05:30, Gary Kline wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000 From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years. should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the bandwidth. Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). A problem may be that it is a PCI card. The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be combined and the result can be stored as a video file in any format and container you want. This is the card: bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' class = multimedia subclass = video The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) You need the kernel modules loaded per bktr_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-) The player command is something like % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's documentation that may help: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html It also contains an example to record to file, which will implement the software video tape recoder functionality. Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or need for them. The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the card is USB based and use webcamd. Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill just skip it for now. i have my feed from my local telco, not an antenna thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well live without the card. gary Sorry Gary; It wasn't entirely for your sake that this came up. For your instance I'd suggest becoming very familiar with mplayer/mencoder and friends. You can then pick up the stream and re-encode to your liking. There are some addons in web browser that can help grab the video as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Racoon failed to get subjectAltName
I could be wrong in my assumption, but I cannot seem to get this to work for me and this error will not disappear while my problem continues. I'm trying to get a RoadWarrior setup for an Android L2TP/IPSec vpn. I had it working at one time on my LAN but failed getting through the pf firewall, so I stowed it while I was required to work on something else; unfortunately I lost the working config somehow (I think? This could be just the bug) and I had to start again- no biggie as I pulled the info off the net before so I could do it again. I recreated some new certificates (the old ones I used to test had expired- I only gave them a very short life for security reasons), and recreated what I thought I had before using xca (same as previously). These include the mandatory SAN: I use email:copy to set this. No amount of googling has helped my investigations, everything is still basically the same age as when I first set this up. But racoon insists the SAN is unavailable now. I've also tried turning off verify identity, but in spite it says the certificates don't match because of empty certificate requests; it would seem that it is still looking for the SAN even though it no longer says so. Googling also verifies that racoon _requires_ SAN to be set to work. I've tried other SAN types, but they don't seem to work either. A check on the certificate shows that it _is_ actually there on all the certificates, but racoon must be blind or something :) Can anyone shed some light on this? Has racoon developed a bug on this at some time? FWIW racoon wont even pass phase1 so I'd assume it is not working because of this problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV
On 03/14/12 03:29, Carmel wrote: Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft MAC and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have only gotten the same response. Ironic, considering Sony use FreeBSD for PS... might have had more success than Samsung :) There's a DLNA server in ports you could try. If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it. I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did work. I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless router. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years. should i have my sister's technician add one? i understood everything but your last paragraph. please do send me the linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the bandwidth. Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878. It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years). A problem may be that it is a PCI card. The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be combined and the result can be stored as a video file in any format and container you want. This is the card: bktr0@pci0:0:9:0: class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)' device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller' class = multimedia subclass = video The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in, audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-) You need the kernel modules loaded per bktr_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box. No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-) The player command is something like % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0 and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file. I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's documentation that may help: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html It also contains an example to record to file, which will implement the software video tape recoder functionality. Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or need for them. The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the card is USB based and use webcamd. Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suggestion
On 03/13/12 02:14, Allen wrote: On 3/11/2012 7:33 PM, Da Rock wrote: On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security to boot. Windows is a poorly made joke. We all know this deep down. Does no one read Computer History? Microsoft was marketing Xenix before IBM said We need an OS that blows for a Computer that has similar power to a calculator ten years from now and Microsoft said We can do that! Well, we can BUY that Seattle Computer Products has this OS called QDOS that is a rip off of CP/M and stands for Quick Dirty Operating System if we buy that for a rip off price and rename it Disk Operating System, even though it can't handle Disks anyway, we can use this! IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, Mac... They never tried to be better... Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up their work once ported, and then said we can do a lot better now and Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, file based devices, etc). Plan 9 is a record label started by Glenn Danzig. And a movie. As for the OS, I don't care. They got it right with Unix years earlier, why stop now? You realise, of course, that a lot of things you take for granted on BSD Unix was ported from Plan9? Yes, they got it right the first time. _And_ the second. People were impressed, but it would have taken too much effort to change ingrained ways and habits. ATT didn't care about Unix until they were allowed to make money off it, but the problem there, is that Berkeley got a copy of it, and some Brilliant Hackers started working on it. The CSRG at Berkeley did things that made more possible. Then they came up with BSD, and, well, we're still using it Today. Many people would consider 6 months to a year a long time in Computer terms, and 5 years with the same OS, is considered damn good. So what does this say about BSD? We're still using an OS that was born in 1969, changed in the 70s by the Brilliance of Berkeley, and now still going strong after so long. That's not only saying something, that's a Historical thing. It is astounding. For around 20 years it hung around before they came up with something new, 40 years on and its still going strong - cars don't even last that long; or some buildings for that matter! So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. Oh well. We don't really have to deal with DOS anymore, and FreeDOS has done things even Microsoft couldn't buy their way through. Then we have Windows, Linux, Unix, and of course, the other toys from other people. I'd like BeOS to come back, but I'm quite happy with BSD and Linux. Of course, if I won the Lotto or something, I'd re-design my House, and turn this room into a true Computer Lab. My Wife and I both are into Computers, and we both Love Unix. We'd buy sun Machines, Sparcs and, for me, a full set of SGI Workstations and Servers. And I'd like them to be running IRIX, except the new ones, I don't know what I'd use on those. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots
On 03/13/12 02:56, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 12/03/2012 14:07, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: What should I blame now? Is it some programming error or should I continue with testing/changing motherboard and cpu? Instability that appears spontaneously (and especially if it persists across system updates) is almost always caused by hardware problems. So, yes, carry on swapping out components until you can isolate where the problem is. Some common hardware problems which might result in the problems you've seen: * PSU going flakey. If you have the right measuring equipment, this is pretty easy to detect by looking at the output voltages -- if they've drifted out of spec, or if you've got mains frequency jitter leaking through then its no wonder your system crashes. * Similarly, if the crashing is associated with system load, (particularly at startup, when things are happening like disks spinning up) this can indicate a power supply fading under load. That can happen due to age, or because you've been adding extra hardware and haven't considered the power requirements. * The other reason for crashing under load is overheating. Sometimes this can be cured easily by cleaning dust out of vents and heat-sinks. Check too for fans either seized or running slowly. * You may need to clean off any old heat-sink compound and re-apply a fresh layer, especially if you've taken CPU coolers off at some point. * There's also the old capacitor problem: electrolytic capacitors have a failure mode that generates some positive pressure inside them. This is detectable by the end of the capacitor being bowed out, rather than slightly concave. (Generally this means a new motherboard, although I've heard of people being able to solder in replacements successfully.) Yes, that works (relatively easily); but you need to be good with a soldering iron and be able to remove the cap without breaking tracks or shorting them. If you're not that or confident, I wouldn't try; although if the MB is cactus anyway you may have nothing to lose :) Other than that, try disconnecting and reconnecting peripherals like disks or DVDs and so forth in various combinations to test if that improves system stability. One faulty component can knock the whole machine over. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.0 spontaneously reboots
On 03/13/12 06:07, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Volodymyr Kostyrkoc.kw...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all. I have one machine behaving unstable. This happened before 9.0. After upgrading to 9.0 machine was given a light load and now it reboots. Memory was already tested (without any errors) and changed after another reboot. So your RAM is good enough to pass a memory test. It doesn't mean it's not the culprit. Way too many false negatives from those things. Overnight soak test with memtest possible? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which compiler compiled system?
On 03/13/12 06:49, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: If Java is broken, then you know FreeBSD was compiled with clang... I wouldn't say that is categorical. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM,kalth...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Is there a way to determine whether a FreeBSD-system was compiled with gcc or clang? I thought of some libs or so that might significantly differ. Regards, kaltheat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Jail and questions
On 03/13/12 09:15, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list I've setup a 32-bit jail on amd64 freebsd 8.2-stable. It works, sort of, but when i run portsnap extract in the jail it say Building new INDEX files... make_index: fopen(/dev/stdin): No such file or directory #ls /dev lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel12 6 Mar 02:56 log - /var/run/log -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel76 12 Mar 23:09 null -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 10 Mar 03:01 stderr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1360 7 Mar 04:44 stdout Where is stdin? or running #ps ps: /boot/kernel/kernel: No such file or directory You may have to unhide it and enable the specific rules for the jail system. I thought stdin was enabled by default, but I could be wrong. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 03/13/12 12:27, Shane Ambler wrote: On 12/03/2012 10:16, Da Rock wrote: On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard programs mplayer and mencoder. For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also for radio programs? Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media streams. There are tools for that available. There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool to record the stream. And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday when I have the spare time. No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought MythTV was the one to use. Pah! Too much bloat - especially for this use. A lot of setup and configuration is required, and for a one off why bother? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suggestion
On 03/11/12 21:03, ajtiM wrote: On Saturday 10 March 2012 17:36:53 Da Rock wrote: No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security to boot. IMO it is the Microsoft and CO. tactics how to eliminate concurency - Unix, Mac... They never tried to be better... Hah! They didn't need to. The guys who designed Unix finally wound up their work once ported, and then said we can do a lot better now and Plan9 was born. The change was too dramatic for commerce to change for supposedly little reward, and so Plan9 was left on the backburner while a lot of its features were integrated into other *nix platforms (rc, file based devices, etc). So in a way they did try to be better, but not exactly with the original designers blessing. And Plan9 is still an immature child... shame. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or radio stream for later replay? I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard programs mplayer and mencoder. For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also for radio programs? Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media streams. There are tools for that available. There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool to record the stream. And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday when I have the spare time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suggestion
On 03/11/12 02:31, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Saturday 10 March 2012 22:08:37 Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: On Saturday 10 March 2012 14:28:05 Joshua Isom wrote: [...] it seems that you delete the 'masterpiece'. wine was able to fix the problem. Do not forget that most of the problems Windows has are not linked to design. I am guessing this is a sarcastic comment!! ALL of Windows' problems are precisely based on poor design... just to name a few: - no clean separation of system and apps it is very clearly separated. - apps re-write system libs at will Isn't this another masterpiece FreeBSD is far off achieving? - no lib versioning I think that you are wrong here. It a long time ago but I think I remember they put a version number into the library name. - there is not out of the box user / admin separation Another point where FreeBSD is far behind. It is not possible to give every user on FreeBSD its own account and full administration rights. No system is actually truly capable of this, with the exception of the newest kid on the block Plan9. Winblows, in its current form, is the bastard love child of DOS and some black sheep cousin of Unix (twice-removed), so its not happening there either; just some sleight of hand tricks to partially achieve the result with a decrease of security to boot. - no filesystem-based security FAT rules! - default network protocols are insecure Windows has meanwhile default network protocols? I think, I have to do some catching up. ...and this is only scratching the surface Windows is a well-marketed (gangster-style) piece of crap. Same with SAP, Oracle and many other widely-used enterprise grade IT. These folks are marketing machines, not technology companies: Cash rules! Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suggestion
On 03/09/12 14:56, Bruno Comerci wrote: Hi guys. Instead of wasting your time and man power, why wont you join to the ReactOS project? It would be more beneficial to the internet community and to the users around the world who wants a free OS with similar looking and functions than Windows, if you just throw away your FreeBSD and join forces with the ReactOS team to accelerate their process. Actually there isnt any single free OS that can be fully trusted, but ReactOS seems to be that one that we all are wating for. Sincerely, Common world's citizen who dont have money to pay Windows and dont trust Linux and any other Unix-based OS. What? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em? Get real... Sincerely Common world's citizen who doesn't trust Windows as far they could throw it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Suggestion
On 03/09/12 16:56, Hexing B wrote: Isn't it illegal to emulate windows OS? Wine would be illegal then. This is Wine on steroids, and then some. Poke a needle in for testing and it will pop ;) Frankly, its not as good as winblow$ and cant do pretty much anything else with it, so its hopeless. Useable for as the OP said, if you can't afford winblows and couldn't be bothered to learn something else. Others mileage may vary though. I trust FreeBSD by now, though ReactOS is worth researching. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM, ill...@gmail.comill...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 March 2012 23:56, Bruno Comercibruno_come...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi guys. Instead of wasting your time and man power, why wont you join to the ReactOS project? It would be more beneficial to the internet community and to the users around the world who wants a free OS with similar looking and functions than Windows, if you just throw away your FreeBSD and join forces with the ReactOS team to accelerate their process. Actually there isnt any single free OS that can be fully trusted, but ReactOS seems to be that one that we all are wating for. Sincerely, Common world's citizen who dont have money to pay Windows and dont trust Linux and any other Unix-based OS. I agree. I've had a bit too much to drink myself. *hic* -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: imap server performance benchmarks
On 03/10/12 08:21, Mark Felder wrote: On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:33:53 -0600, Weldon Godfrey wel...@excelsusphoto.com wrote: I would highly recommend looking at Dovecot. I have used courier for several ISPs then switched to Dovecot on my last install. Its ability for caching the index per user is of great performance advantage if you choose to leverage an IMAP based webmail solution (like Roundcube, or even Squirrelmail, but I would recommend Roundcube over Squrrel)...especially if you are going to deal with mailboxes of tens of thousands of messages. I concur. We use Dovecot at work and even put the indexes on Intel SSDs. My boss's mailbox is actually 1.2 million messages. That's pretty insane. For my personal email I prefer Archiveopteryx which sanitizes, normalizes, and deduplicates your email. There are caveats (breaks gpg), but I find it to be wicked fast -- faster than Dovecot on my server. Here's an annoying problem: You have a filesystem with 9 million messages in Maildirs. Backing this up or even rsyncing this sucks. Now imagine being able to use database replication and use database dumps for your backups. Pretty slick. You lose the beautiful power of shell utilities, though Yes, thats true. That was tested in the paper: a cyrus? using sql database backend performed faster in searches and lookups. But writing and deleting was a drag, and you lose the shell; but I'm not sure that thats such a problem as one could find tools in the sql commands (provided you know databases well enough). My idea was to run some tests based on extremes, but by the sounds of some of these replies I'm a small fry it seems, not as extreme as I thought... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
