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I think someone’s account has been spoofed. I did not receive the post.
Don C
On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:20 15AM, Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. mfos...@jccc.edu wrote:
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What is this link?
On 6/10/2015 9:33 AM, rohani...@aol.com
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To impress other people of your religiosity.
To be seen as a “good” Baha’i.
Because you think you should.
Don C
On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:40 30PM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote:
'I ask of Thee by Thy Self and by him who hath fasted out of love for Thee
and
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Or both of these.
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On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:09 32AM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote:
It just seems to me that with this embrace all focus the House would, if they
announce anything for 2021, announce a series of conferences around the world
where
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Very good and thank you John. Have notated my file accordingly.
By the time I became a Baha’i, this statement had long disappeared, having been
replaced by the 1947 statement subsequently published as a stand alone piece.
This we know about. On 9 July 47, he
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I recently found an old pamphlet entitled “The World Religion A summary of Its
Aims, Teachings and History by SHOGHI EFFENDI Guardian of the Bahá'i Faith” as
reprinted Jan 1941.
Poking around, I find it is Appendix II of Martha Root’s “Tahirih, the Pure”
which had
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Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was not
generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies. Don’t remember his name,
but he was a Baha’i working for a state department of agriculture extension
service, maybe for Wisconsin. How
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There’s unsub info at the bottom of each email.
I think I suggested you join, but certainly didn’t subscribe you. I don’t
think I can.
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On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:01 19PM, carl stefan stefan.c...@gmail.com wrote:
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i am puzzled that i
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I tho’t there was an authoritative letter saying that we believed in the Virgin
Birth but not the immaculate conception of Mary.
I can’t find it, so was i imagining things?
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[Concerning claims that D. T. Suzuki’s wife was a Baha’i. ]
Japanese Journal of Religious Studies 32/2: 249–281
© 2005 Nanzan Institute for Religion and Culture
Thomas A. Tweed
American Occultism and Japanese Buddhism
Albert J. Edmunds, D. T. Suzuki, and
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Anybody know anything about these two?
Ellen Goin was an American cousin of Laura Barney and friend of the Khans.
According to a press report cited in Summon Up Remembrance, she was a Baha'i.
She married a Cuban businessman, Manual Riordo and they lived in Goin
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Anybody seen anything vaguely similar to this in the Baha'i Writings? These
are new claims to me.
The Judeo-Christian and Muslim texts mention Damascus as an important landmark
in the geography of the Second Coming. To some Christian and Muslim scholars it
was only
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OK, this appears to be a hadith. See
http://www.discoveringislam.org/return_of_jesus.htm
Don C
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:52 34PM, bdw827n wrote:
For the Qur'an quote, Chapter 4, verse 159, neither A, Yusef Alie, nor
Rodwell's translation have such a quote. Any
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I have a statement headed -
A BAHA'I PERSPECTIVE ON NATURE
AND THE ENVIRONMENT
© 1986 Baha'i International Community
Office of Public Information
September 1986
I can't locate it on the BIC site nor find any idea of who it was written for
or why. I do find a
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I've found most of the answer.
There are two statements - one in Sept 1986 when the Network was formed
http://iefworld.org/bicpne.htm,
and a second one 3 Oct 1987 when the Baha'is joined the Network
http://iefworld.org/bicnat.htm.
Last October 3, the Baha'i Faith
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I've gone thru' the scans on h-bahai and they are incomplete according to the
index by Steve Lambden at http://bahai-library.com/bahai_studies_bulletin_index
The scans have one volume twice in two different forms [Vol 4:3-4] and And two
editions, [Volume 5, No. 1-2
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it is in the comp on Nature which Jonah lists as being from the BWC in 1988.
[see http://bahai-library.com/compilation_nature_bwc ] and I believe I remember
seeing it in print around that time. However, it was not included in the CofC,
which raises questions about
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And it was in a square format, made by printing on legal size (or equivalent)
folded in half, yielding pages that were roughly 7 x 8. The cover was a pastel
blue or green w/ no design, just the title.
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On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:47 08AM, Don Calkins wrote
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Understood. How about it being a more basic meaning?
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On Jun 22, 2013, at 3:50 59AM, Sen McGlinn wrote:
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On 21 Jun 2013 at 21:51, Don Calkins wrote:
So an alternative, more literal, translation would be - These thick
clouds
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Jonah says it came to an individual along with the letter on the Gaia
Hypothesis. [see http://bahai-library.com/uhj_gaia_concept ] This fact is
noted in a couple places.
The 1988 date was an estimate on his part. That is the last date of any quote
in it and he
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I would like to see documentation for the idea that Keshe has any kind of
approval from the BWC.
Don C
On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:06 42PM, Barry Johnston wrote:
Hi, just a brief (late) comment. As to Dr Greer's Baha'i connection. He may
be confused with another man,
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These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings, who
are none other but the divines of Persia. . . . . .
. . . . . .
By “divines” in the passage cited above is meant those men who outwardly attire
themselves with the raiment of knowledge,
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Greer's CSETI organization should not be confused with the older SETI
Institute, which a number of Baha'is are involved with. They permit their home
computers to be accessed via the internet to function as part of a cluster that
provides the computing power of a
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And I assume it is the various references in the Writings to extra-terrestrial
beings and creatures.
I would suggest people interested in the topic read Troxel's paper on the
subject - http://bahai-library.com/troxel_extraterrestrials_exotheology
Abstract:
outwardly
attire themselves with the raiment of knowledge, but who inwardly are deprived
therefrom.
Don C
On Jun 21, 2013, at 5:41 58PM, Sen McGlinn wrote:
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On 21 Jun 2013 at 13:06, Don Calkins wrote:
These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain
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342. Dramatizing Historic Episodes of the Faith
As to your question concerning the advisability of dramatizing Baha'i historic
episodes: The Guardian would certainly approve, and even encourage that the
friends should engage in such literary pursuits which, no doubt,
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You seem to be intent on categorizing the Faith. It's not going to work.
Why is the Faith referred to as a liberal or progressive group? Because
when Abdu'l-Baha was here 100 years ago and emphasized what are now commonly
referred to as the Baha'i Principles (all
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i don't think it will be released til it is presented at the International
Convention.
Don C
On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:24 37PM, Mike Moum wrote:
Does anyone know whether the Ridvan letter from the House is available? I
can't find it anywhere.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_in_Burma
In Sri Lanka a couple months ago, Sinhalo-Buddhists called for the expulsion
of all Christians and Muslims.
However, a fundamentalist Buddhist usually believes that non-Buddhists are
condemned to be
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So, as my mother used to say, if they all jump off a cliff, are you going to
jump, too??
Let those so inclined go to those religions.
Don C
On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:35 41PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
There are a variety of religions in the world. While most either
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if you think liberal means No drugs, no booze, no hanky-panky then I guess
we're quite liberal.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:54 11PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Why isn't the Baha'i Faith a liberal religion?
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Understood properly, all man's problems are
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i consider myself an independent centrist. I don't fit neatly into any
category. I am generally moderate, but have no compunction about adapting
workable ideas from a variety of perspectives. What is most important, as
Baha'u'llah has indicated, are the
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There are militant fundamentalist Buddhists that have attacked members of
other religions.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:17 46PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Buddhist states aren't oppressive with religious rules.
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Understood properly, all man's problems
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A Baha'i involved in consultation will use Scripture as an ethical standard.
BTW, in the mid 80's, I took a college credit mid management course that
included a section on small group decision making. It was a very good
non-Baha'i description of consultation as
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They will be a minor part of their responsibilities. This is going to prob be
1500 years from now. Think the difference in civilization btwn Augustine and
now.
Don C
On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:39 08PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
How will the punishments in the Aqdas
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:11 28PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Baha'is say that people are supposed to use independent investigation of
truth to verify or falsify the claims of each and every religious claimant,
I have never seen a statement like that in Baha'i
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I certainly hope so.
otherwise, eternity is going to last a lo-ong time. 8-)
Don C
On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:00 38PM, Matt Haase wrote:
No matter who it is describing, it seems to me to demonstrate that God's
mercy is much, much, more manifest than his wrath.
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Antinomianism is an extreme form of salvation by faith alone.
As I understand it, Abdu'l-Baha accepted two ideas -
Faith without works is dead;
Deeds without faith is sterile.
Doesn't fit with any discussion of antinomianism I've read.
Don C
On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:39
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IMO, this is a reference to the True Believer who comes to Akka as a pilgrim to
see Baha'u'llah.
Don C
On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:27 10PM, Matt Haase wrote:
But by the same token, the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf states that one's
past and future sins would be
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on the contrary . . . .
Like most Euro-Americans, you believe in some kind of authoritarianism in which
those in control pass laws to make people behave according to your standards
and then punish people who do not comply. i reject that as an efficient and
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While the libertarian right has gained prominence, the right is still dominated
by the authoritarians.
I consider Obama a defacto member, just not as authoritarian or right as the
Republicans.
Don C
On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:15 50PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Also,
.
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On Apr 9, 2013, at 16:20, Don Calkins don59...@gmail.com wrote:
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Aha, my mistake.
I don't think there are any that are really good. That's because this is a
very complex topic w/ an unknown number of important factors, and because
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Serious researchers agree. The best evidence is actually the original
identical twin study. In spite of what gay activists claim, it proves that
being homosexual is not primarily genetically determined.
#1 - the participants were not found via some kind of random
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While there are physiological aspects to homosexuality in humans, the issue is
primarily a psycho-sociological one, one which we only partially appreciate
because of all the other problems we are facing.
There is a common belief that since men and women are the same
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the following version should provide the info you want.
http://www.holy-writings.com/?a=SHOWTEXTd=%2Fen%2FBahai+Faith%2F4+-+Miscellaneous%2FDeveloping+Distinctive+Bahai+Communities+-+LSA+Guidelines+%28USA%29.html
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On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:37 23PM, Firouz wrote:
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But Revelation does not define what people believe is moral and what is not;
and it is their beliefs that define there actions.
Don C
On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:01 01PM, Hasan Elías wrote:
As you know, Revelation defines what is moral and what is not.
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On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:51 21PM, Hasan Elías wrote:
Do you know where is that passage, please?
No. I think it was mentioned in passing during a discussion several years ago.
Does this refers to any kind of scientific proof?
I don't believe so.
I have heard
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They are entitled to their interpretation. But of course no matter how
prominent an individual may be, their statements are never authoritative.
Personally, I believe that however important it is to accept the Messenger, it
is the Message that can not be rejected
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Yes, but the extremes, as a percentage of the population, are and will continue
to decline. Eventually, they will nearly completely disappear, tho' prob not
completely as recessives will be maintained and pop up every so often.
I have been told that that the
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I've also been told that Nordic white will be the first color to disappear.
Don C
On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:24 53AM, Don Calkins wrote:
I have been told that that the populations with the longest history of
inter-marriage are in the Pacific, and that their coloration
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It really depends on how you define Baha'i. I don't think any experts
believe there are over 1 million Iranians who are actively involved in the
Faith. In fact, many believe that actual number may be below 100,000. However
that have been statements recently that
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Perhaps, but these aren't superstitions. If Christians blvd that these
figures/items have some kind of supernatural ability/capacity, that would be a
superstition.
Don C
On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:26 55PM, Hasan Elías wrote:
Are Christians superstitious?
They
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As I remember, she was the focus of a group who tho't she should proclaim
herself the successor to Siyyid Kazim, just as there were around several other
of his leading followers. Most of them ultimately became not only Babi's but
Letters of the Living. The most
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Shaykhism as a distinct religion is all but dead. Karim Khan and his
descendants (the last died in 1969) moved Shaykhism closer and closer to
Usulism. The term does retain legitimacy as the name of a religious community,
but then so does Dominican, Fransciscan,
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Since when does independent mean that you can not tend toward the left or the
Democratic party?
My political philosophy is libertarian left; that makes it very difficult to
accept the views of most Republican candidates. The fact is that the mean
political
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On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:06 14PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
Independent does have connotations of centrism actually.
It used to, and still does in Europe, but not the U.S.
Also, what are your exact coordinates on the political compass?
This time it was -6, -3. Last
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Perhaps. But there are rarely any Green Party candidates on the ballot in
Montana.
Regardless, what is most important are the personal characteristics of the
individual candidate, not their position on particular issues or their party
affiliation.
BTW, my brother
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Yes it's being done that way in other countries.
Don C
On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:11 21AM, David Regal wrote:
I just saw this:
'The National Spiritual Assembly is delighted to advise that, after
considering the outcomes of the ballots held for Local Spiritual
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On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:37 59AM, David Regal wrote:
Okay, so this is done per the advice of the House of Justice?
3. In accordance with local requirements and the condition of the Bahá'í
community, the Universal House of Justice will decide which Regional Bahá'í
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That really depends on how you define religion. If you use the narrow Baha'i
definition of religion as the organized followers of a Manifestation, then the
answer is, No. However in common practice, the term is used much broader. I
believe from comments made by
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On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:50 35PM, Stephen Gray wrote:
When you pray for something, what effect does it have on it actually coming
about?
My opinion is prob atypical for most Baha'is, or even most other religious
people. I think that normally, any effect that
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Much the same for me after reading the World Order letters. I decided Christ
and Baha'u'llah were the same, whether deluded or Messengers from God.
Don C
On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:09 16PM, Susan Maneck wrote:
I became a Baha'i because when I read Release the Sun, I
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Don't remember which lists this has been discussed on, but one sic-fi mythos
that has not been discussed, as I remember, is Galactica.
Religion is more important to the Galactica story-line than any of the other
shows and also has the most complex treatment of it.
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On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:21 09PM, Stephen Gray wrote:
Your response is littered with appeal to authority. X is X because an
authority says that X is X is your basica argument. Also, the abscence of
evidence is evidence of abscence is also used to say that If X isn't
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On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:48 12AM, Stephen Gray wrote:
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Why would non-Baha'is go to a MA (abbreviation)? MAs are marketed (may
unintentionally) as an eucmenical place of worship where sermons are
forbidden because sermons tend to promote
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On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:10 05AM, Stephen Gray wrote:
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The thread is mostly about the scriptures, but also covers religions and
their founders.
The question wasn't about the word unity in unity of religion, but the word
religion in
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On Aug 27, 2012, at 2:41 39PM, Stephen Gray wrote:
Here's the story that this topic is based on below.
http://bahaitheway.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
First off, I think it bears repeating that nothing any individual says,
regardless of their position or
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It is the Holy Spirit that is pre-existent, I believe, not the rational soul.
Don C
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:57 45PM, Hasan Elías wrote:
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Hi all,
I want to ask you about the soul of the Manifestation of God.
We know that They appear in
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Cal was a member of this list at one time.
Don C
Hello. I am Vanessa Rollins the daughter of Cal Rollins. As my father often
spoke of how much he enjoyed his email group of friends, I wanted to let
everyone know the sad news that he passed away unexpectedly on
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I don't agree.
Don C
On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:26 14AM, David Regal wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JECTUQVrvzEfeature=plcp
A couple of family members were sure the Bee Gees mentioned the name
Baha'u'llah in the song Words. The above link shows they are
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Muh Luh-uh w/ a swallowed v sound.
Typical of the sloppy enunciation that became popular in the 60's/70's. IMO,
it was little more than an affectation designed to emulate the supposed
spirituality of southern black blues singers, similar to what Bob Dylan later
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I am not convinced that a human clone would have a soul. More likely, it will
only have an animal spirit. It would be alive, but not human.
Don C
On May 14, 2012, at 11:40 46AM, Hasan Elías wrote:
But, do you think that the clone's soul will be akin the soul of
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Hi, Don
Do you mean a clone is a human being without soul?
I mean the result would not be human.
Don C
He who believes himself spiritual proves he is not.
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On May 14, 2012, at 6:49 09PM, Susan Maneck wrote:
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Then identical twins should not have souls. They are clones.
Not hardly.
The process as you know is very different. Not the least of these differences
is the fact that the embryo that
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On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:53 08PM, David Regal wrote:
I am a rare Baha'i who is generally skeptical of Baha'i dreams, i.e., whether
they are from God. Many assume that if you have a Baha'i dream, like about
the Central Figures, it has to be sent from God.
I find
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On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:28 03PM, Mark A. Foster wrote:
Very nice. Do you mind if I use it? If you like, I can credit you by name.
If you think it'll be useful, use it.
Don C
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Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature.
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On Dec 13, 2011, at 6:21 49PM, Mark A. Foster wrote:
Again, if you would like me to mention you by name, let me know. I usually
won't do that without the person's permission.
I don't really care. Who's going to remember my name an hour after reading it?
LOL
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On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 44PM, Mark A. Foster wrote:
I call this method, the “what?” technique. Here is how to do it: When you
suspect that someone is playing a game with you, ask, “What?,” “What do you
mean?,” “Say that again?,” “Oh?,” “Huh?,” or words to that
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I think perennialism leaves us
in the Dark Ages, but triumphalism is not good either. I was rather
pleased to see the House of Justice criticize that attitude in their
recent letter to the Counsellors.
Same here, tho I think what they are objecting to is not
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Dear Susan,
How about Hidden Words saying Treasure the companionship of the
righteous and eschew all fellowship with the ungodly. I don't think
ungodly really means atheist here. Thinking about the Persian word
(ashrAr) means more to me
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Muslims will also say that suicide attacks are defensive in nature
because the west first invaded Arab countries (isreal).
Americans say the invasion of Iraq was defensive because . . . . .
Actually, I don't remember why.
Don C
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Extreme pacifists
are thus very close to the anarchists, in the sense that both of these
groups lay an undue emphasis on the rights and merits of the
individual. The Bahá'í conception of social life is essentially based
on the subordination of the individual will to
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Can' the list owner just remove him?
He is in occultation. 8-)
And has been for years.
Don C
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With regard to the Seal of the Prophets
Did Baha'u'llah refer to Himself as a nabi or a rasul?
If he did not, then this whole question is moot.
Tim
I agree. By my understanding, the stations of prophethood, nabi and
rasu'l, have
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I would say our growth rate after the Ruhi era is less than before Ruhi era.
We really won't know for a few more years, but at the present he
indications I get are to the contrary. That is, our retention rate
is rising significantly. But to be sure, we need to
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The real number of Baha'is in India may actually be below 50,000,
not over 2 million. Nobody knows because nobody has had any contact w/ most
of them since they ostensibly enrolled.
Dear Don,
I think we do have a fairly accurate
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The Faith will increase in numbers vastly in the future. Given that
the House is struggling to keep up now how will they do so in future?
Most of the responsibility will devolve onto local communities.
the Baha'i administration is not a
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Actually the most recent one is Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska.
On the contrary, Gravel has been unequivocally opposed to
representative democracy for at least the last 10 years or so. In a
representative democracy, the representative
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Executive? Doesn't that mean they will have veto power?
Not necessarily. You make the mistake of assuming that the American
model is the only model.
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I didn't know they sen't him a letter. I read his blog sometimes, so
I should have been able to know that.
He rarely mentions, let alone discusses it. See
http://bahai-library.com/uhj_theocracy
Don C
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Flat taxes are actually conservative. Liberals always try to make
taxation progressive. This idea first came from the Communist
Manifesto.
That is a lie. That is, the ideologues propounding such an idea
know, or should know, that it is
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The issue of democracy is that it's policies will reflect what the
people who make them and vote for them.
Not necessarily.
In a democratic form of gov't, the people who make the laws are
chosen by the people; the people do not
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You're making it sound like the future there won't be damocracy anymore.
Not as we typically think of it today, no. Perhaps you also believe
that the ancient Athenians and the American Founding Fathers
advocated a pure democracy? The
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In response to Gilberto's question and Don C's response I offer the
following quotes for consideration...
These were all published well after Wilson used the phrase. Further,
the translations I can find that pre-date Shoghi Effendi do
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Didn't the Bahai writings talk about a New World order even before
Wilson's speech?
While it can be argued that the Baha'i vision equates to a new world
order, the terms world order and new world order do not occur in
the Writings of
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Sincerity is the foundation-stone of faith. That
is, a religious individual must disregard his
personal desires and seek in whatever way he can
wholeheartedly to serve the public interest; and
it is impossible for a human being to turn
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I remember a friend (then, not yet a Baha'i) in college asking me if
I could help him to understand what Baha'u'llah meant by the fear of
God?
Remember in H.S. being totally hung up over some guy (or gal)?
Remember how you were
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Brent -
Seems to me that one of your articles should at least touch on the
claim that various pretenders to the station of Guardian are
legitimized thru' being adopted into the Aghsan. This has become,
the last 15 years, a more important argument, it appears to me,
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But the fact that Khanum didn't correct Rosemary made me feel that there
must have been some substance to what she said.
Maybe, or maybe not. Ruhiyyih Khanum is not authoritative.
Some things I have heard her say or have been reported as her saying
need to be
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Certainly using a mantra as is done in Hinduism and Buddhism has
similarities to dhikr which we do have in the Baha'i Faith,
And in Christianity, esp the Eastern Church.
Don C
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Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature.
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Are there any papers out there that discuss Unity as a theological concept?
Perhaps 'Abdu'l-Baha's Commentary on The Islamic Tradition: I Was a
Hidden Treasure... Section B. MAHABBAT(LOVE)Pages 14-20.
Tnx, I've pulled it down.
Don C
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