Re: How are you?

2015-06-11 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I think someone’s account has been spoofed. I did not receive the post. Don C On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:20 15AM, Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. mfos...@jccc.edu wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv What is this link? On 6/10/2015 9:33 AM, rohani...@aol.com

Re: Fast

2014-03-24 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv To impress other people of your religiosity. To be seen as a “good” Baha’i. Because you think you should. Don C On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:40 30PM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote: 'I ask of Thee by Thy Self and by him who hath fasted out of love for Thee and

Re: World Congresses

2014-03-24 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Or both of these. Don C On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:09 32AM, David Regal david.re...@yahoo.com wrote: It just seems to me that with this embrace all focus the House would, if they announce anything for 2021, announce a series of conferences around the world where

Re: “The World Religion A summary of Its Aims, Teachings and History by SHOGHI EFFENDI

2014-01-27 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Very good and thank you John. Have notated my file accordingly. By the time I became a Baha’i, this statement had long disappeared, having been replaced by the 1947 statement subsequently published as a stand alone piece. This we know about. On 9 July 47, he

“The World Religion A summary of Its Aims, Teachings and History by SHOGHI EFFENDI

2014-01-25 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I recently found an old pamphlet entitled “The World Religion A summary of Its Aims, Teachings and History by SHOGHI EFFENDI Guardian of the Bahá'i Faith” as reprinted Jan 1941. Poking around, I find it is Appendix II of Martha Root’s “Tahirih, the Pure” which had

Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Once upon a time, even tho’ the internet technically existed, it was not generally available, not even to all gov’t agencies. Don’t remember his name, but he was a Baha’i working for a state department of agriculture extension service, maybe for Wisconsin. How

Re: Fulfilled yet?

2014-01-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There’s unsub info at the bottom of each email. I think I suggested you join, but certainly didn’t subscribe you. I don’t think I can. Don C On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:01 19PM, carl stefan stefan.c...@gmail.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv i am puzzled that i

Immaculate Conception

2013-11-16 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I tho’t there was an authoritative letter saying that we believed in the Virgin Birth but not the immaculate conception of Mary. I can’t find it, so was i imagining things? Don C --- It doesn't matter whether the sun shines if you never go outside.

[Concerning claims that D. T. Suzuki’s wife was a Baha’i. ]

2013-09-19 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv [Concerning claims that D. T. Suzuki’s wife was a Baha’i. ] Japanese Journal of Religious Studies 32/2: 249–281 © 2005 Nanzan Institute for Religion and Culture Thomas A. Tweed American Occultism and Japanese Buddhism Albert J. Edmunds, D. T. Suzuki, and

Ellen Goin and Manuel Riordo

2013-09-04 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Anybody know anything about these two? Ellen Goin was an American cousin of Laura Barney and friend of the Khans. According to a press report cited in Summon Up Remembrance, she was a Baha'i. She married a Cuban businessman, Manual Riordo and they lived in Goin

Damascus prophecies

2013-08-28 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Anybody seen anything vaguely similar to this in the Baha'i Writings? These are new claims to me. The Judeo-Christian and Muslim texts mention Damascus as an important landmark in the geography of the Second Coming. To some Christian and Muslim scholars it was only

Re: Damascus prophecies

2013-08-28 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv OK, this appears to be a hadith. See http://www.discoveringislam.org/return_of_jesus.htm Don C On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:52 34PM, bdw827n wrote: For the Qur'an quote, Chapter 4, verse 159, neither A, Yusef Alie, nor Rodwell's translation have such a quote. Any

BIC Statement on Nature

2013-08-19 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I have a statement headed - A BAHA'I PERSPECTIVE ON NATURE AND THE ENVIRONMENT © 1986 Baha'i International Community Office of Public Information September 1986 I can't locate it on the BIC site nor find any idea of who it was written for or why. I do find a

Re: BIC Statement on Nature

2013-08-19 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I've found most of the answer. There are two statements - one in Sept 1986 when the Network was formed http://iefworld.org/bicpne.htm, and a second one 3 Oct 1987 when the Baha'is joined the Network http://iefworld.org/bicnat.htm. Last October 3, the Baha'i Faith

Re: access to Bahá'ís Studies Bulletin?

2013-08-15 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I've gone thru' the scans on h-bahai and they are incomplete according to the index by Steve Lambden at http://bahai-library.com/bahai_studies_bulletin_index The scans have one volume twice in two different forms [Vol 4:3-4] and And two editions, [Volume 5, No. 1-2

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv it is in the comp on Nature which Jonah lists as being from the BWC in 1988. [see http://bahai-library.com/compilation_nature_bwc ] and I believe I remember seeing it in print around that time. However, it was not included in the CofC, which raises questions about

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And it was in a square format, made by printing on legal size (or equivalent) folded in half, yielding pages that were roughly 7 x 8. The cover was a pastel blue or green w/ no design, just the title. Don C On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:47 08AM, Don Calkins wrote

Re: ESW quote

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Understood. How about it being a more basic meaning? Don C On Jun 22, 2013, at 3:50 59AM, Sen McGlinn wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 21 Jun 2013 at 21:51, Don Calkins wrote: So an alternative, more literal, translation would be - These thick clouds

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Jonah says it came to an individual along with the letter on the Gaia Hypothesis. [see http://bahai-library.com/uhj_gaia_concept ] This fact is noted in a couple places. The 1988 date was an estimate on his part. That is the last date of any quote in it and he

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would like to see documentation for the idea that Keshe has any kind of approval from the BWC. Don C On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:06 42PM, Barry Johnston wrote: Hi, just a brief (late) comment. As to Dr Greer's Baha'i connection. He may be confused with another man,

ESW quote

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain imaginings, who are none other but the divines of Persia. . . . . . . . . . . . By “divines” in the passage cited above is meant those men who outwardly attire themselves with the raiment of knowledge,

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Greer's CSETI organization should not be confused with the older SETI Institute, which a number of Baha'is are involved with. They permit their home computers to be accessed via the internet to function as part of a cluster that provides the computing power of a

Re: Steven Greer

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv And I assume it is the various references in the Writings to extra-terrestrial beings and creatures. I would suggest people interested in the topic read Troxel's paper on the subject - http://bahai-library.com/troxel_extraterrestrials_exotheology Abstract:

Re: ESW quote

2013-06-21 Thread Don Calkins
outwardly attire themselves with the raiment of knowledge, but who inwardly are deprived therefrom. Don C On Jun 21, 2013, at 5:41 58PM, Sen McGlinn wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 21 Jun 2013 at 13:06, Don Calkins wrote: These thick clouds are the exponents of idle fancies and vain

Re: can bahá'ís do a film like this?

2013-05-13 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv 342. Dramatizing Historic Episodes of the Faith As to your question concerning the advisability of dramatizing Baha'i historic episodes: The Guardian would certainly approve, and even encourage that the friends should engage in such literary pursuits which, no doubt,

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-24 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv You seem to be intent on categorizing the Faith. It's not going to work. Why is the Faith referred to as a liberal or progressive group? Because when Abdu'l-Baha was here 100 years ago and emphasized what are now commonly referred to as the Baha'i Principles (all

Re: Ridvan letter

2013-04-24 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv i don't think it will be released til it is presented at the International Convention. Don C On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:24 37PM, Mike Moum wrote: Does anyone know whether the Ridvan letter from the House is available? I can't find it anywhere. -

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims_in_Burma In Sri Lanka a couple months ago, Sinhalo-Buddhists called for the expulsion of all Christians and Muslims. However, a fundamentalist Buddhist usually believes that non-Buddhists are condemned to be

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv So, as my mother used to say, if they all jump off a cliff, are you going to jump, too?? Let those so inclined go to those religions. Don C On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:35 41PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: There are a variety of religions in the world. While most either

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv if you think liberal means No drugs, no booze, no hanky-panky then I guess we're quite liberal. Don C On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:54 11PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: Why isn't the Baha'i Faith a liberal religion? - Understood properly, all man's problems are

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv i consider myself an independent centrist. I don't fit neatly into any category. I am generally moderate, but have no compunction about adapting workable ideas from a variety of perspectives. What is most important, as Baha'u'llah has indicated, are the

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv There are militant fundamentalist Buddhists that have attacked members of other religions. Don C On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:17 46PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: Buddhist states aren't oppressive with religious rules. - Understood properly, all man's problems

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv A Baha'i involved in consultation will use Scripture as an ethical standard. BTW, in the mid 80's, I took a college credit mid management course that included a section on small group decision making. It was a very good non-Baha'i description of consultation as

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv They will be a minor part of their responsibilities. This is going to prob be 1500 years from now. Think the difference in civilization btwn Augustine and now. Don C On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:39 08PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: How will the punishments in the Aqdas

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Apr 20, 2013, at 2:11 28PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: Baha'is say that people are supposed to use independent investigation of truth to verify or falsify the claims of each and every religious claimant, I have never seen a statement like that in Baha'i

Re: New Religious Movements and Post Conventional Morality

2013-04-19 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I certainly hope so. otherwise, eternity is going to last a lo-ong time. 8-) Don C On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:00 38PM, Matt Haase wrote: No matter who it is describing, it seems to me to demonstrate that God's mercy is much, much, more manifest than his wrath.

Re: New Religious Movements and Post Conventional Morality

2013-04-18 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Antinomianism is an extreme form of salvation by faith alone. As I understand it, Abdu'l-Baha accepted two ideas - Faith without works is dead; Deeds without faith is sterile. Doesn't fit with any discussion of antinomianism I've read. Don C On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:39

Re: New Religious Movements and Post Conventional Morality

2013-04-18 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv IMO, this is a reference to the True Believer who comes to Akka as a pilgrim to see Baha'u'llah. Don C On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:27 10PM, Matt Haase wrote: But by the same token, the Epistle to the Son of the Wolf states that one's past and future sins would be

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-17 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv on the contrary . . . . Like most Euro-Americans, you believe in some kind of authoritarianism in which those in control pass laws to make people behave according to your standards and then punish people who do not comply. i reject that as an efficient and

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-17 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv While the libertarian right has gained prominence, the right is still dominated by the authoritarians. I consider Obama a defacto member, just not as authoritarian or right as the Republicans. Don C On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:15 50PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: Also,

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-10 Thread Don Calkins
. Don C Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2013, at 16:20, Don Calkins don59...@gmail.com wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Aha, my mistake. I don't think there are any that are really good. That's because this is a very complex topic w/ an unknown number of important factors, and because

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-09 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Serious researchers agree. The best evidence is actually the original identical twin study. In spite of what gay activists claim, it proves that being homosexual is not primarily genetically determined. #1 - the participants were not found via some kind of random

Re: Against nature...

2013-04-05 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv While there are physiological aspects to homosexuality in humans, the issue is primarily a psycho-sociological one, one which we only partially appreciate because of all the other problems we are facing. There is a common belief that since men and women are the same

Re: 19-Day Feast

2013-02-28 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv the following version should provide the info you want. http://www.holy-writings.com/?a=SHOWTEXTd=%2Fen%2FBahai+Faith%2F4+-+Miscellaneous%2FDeveloping+Distinctive+Bahai+Communities+-+LSA+Guidelines+%28USA%29.html Don C On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:37 23PM, Firouz wrote:

Re: Morality defined differently by different people

2013-02-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv But Revelation does not define what people believe is moral and what is not; and it is their beliefs that define there actions. Don C On Feb 22, 2013, at 12:01 01PM, Hasan Elías wrote: As you know, Revelation defines what is moral and what is not.

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-15 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:51 21PM, Hasan Elías wrote: Do you know where is that passage, please? No. I think it was mentioned in passing during a discussion several years ago. Does this refers to any kind of scientific proof? I don't believe so. I have heard

Re: First Person Grammar

2013-02-10 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv They are entitled to their interpretation. But of course no matter how prominent an individual may be, their statements are never authoritative. Personally, I believe that however important it is to accept the Messenger, it is the Message that can not be rejected

Re: One form of Unity in Diversity not meant to be eternal?

2013-01-18 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes, but the extremes, as a percentage of the population, are and will continue to decline. Eventually, they will nearly completely disappear, tho' prob not completely as recessives will be maintained and pop up every so often. I have been told that that the

Re: One form of Unity in Diversity not meant to be eternal?

2013-01-18 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I've also been told that Nordic white will be the first color to disappear. Don C On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:24 53AM, Don Calkins wrote: I have been told that that the populations with the longest history of inter-marriage are in the Pacific, and that their coloration

Re: Number of believers in Iran

2013-01-03 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv It really depends on how you define Baha'i. I don't think any experts believe there are over 1 million Iranians who are actively involved in the Faith. In fact, many believe that actual number may be below 100,000. However that have been statements recently that

Re: Christmas tree? superstitions

2012-12-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Perhaps, but these aren't superstitions. If Christians blvd that these figures/items have some kind of supernatural ability/capacity, that would be a superstition. Don C On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:26 55PM, Hasan Elías wrote: Are Christians superstitious? They

Re: Aqdasi and Qurati or Ayani

2012-12-12 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv As I remember, she was the focus of a group who tho't she should proclaim herself the successor to Siyyid Kazim, just as there were around several other of his leading followers. Most of them ultimately became not only Babi's but Letters of the Living. The most

Re: Aqdasi and Qurati or Ayani

2012-12-10 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Shaykhism as a distinct religion is all but dead. Karim Khan and his descendants (the last died in 1969) moved Shaykhism closer and closer to Usulism. The term does retain legitimacy as the name of a religious community, but then so does Dominican, Fransciscan,

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Since when does independent mean that you can not tend toward the left or the Democratic party? My political philosophy is libertarian left; that makes it very difficult to accept the views of most Republican candidates. The fact is that the mean political

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:06 14PM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote: Independent does have connotations of centrism actually. It used to, and still does in Europe, but not the U.S. Also, what are your exact coordinates on the political compass? This time it was -6, -3. Last

Re: Religious rejection of politics

2012-11-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Perhaps. But there are rarely any Green Party candidates on the ballot in Montana. Regardless, what is most important are the personal characteristics of the individual candidate, not their position on particular issues or their party affiliation. BTW, my brother

Re: Are the other countries doing this?

2012-11-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes it's being done that way in other countries. Don C On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:11 21AM, David Regal wrote: I just saw this: 'The National Spiritual Assembly is delighted to advise that, after considering the outcomes of the ballots held for Local Spiritual

Re: Are the other countries doing this?

2012-11-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Nov 14, 2012, at 4:37 59AM, David Regal wrote: Okay, so this is done per the advice of the House of Justice? 3. In accordance with local requirements and the condition of the Bahá'í community, the Universal House of Justice will decide which Regional Bahá'í

Re: Sikhism and Juche religions

2012-09-12 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv That really depends on how you define religion. If you use the narrow Baha'i definition of religion as the organized followers of a Manifestation, then the answer is, No. However in common practice, the term is used much broader. I believe from comments made by

Re: Prayer

2012-09-06 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:50 35PM, Stephen Gray wrote: When you pray for something, what effect does it have on it actually coming about? My opinion is prob atypical for most Baha'is, or even most other religious people. I think that normally, any effect that

Re: Religious Conversion

2012-09-05 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Much the same for me after reading the World Order letters. I decided Christ and Baha'u'llah were the same, whether deluded or Messengers from God. Don C On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:09 16PM, Susan Maneck wrote: I became a Baha'i because when I read Release the Sun, I

Religion and Sci-Fi

2012-08-31 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Don't remember which lists this has been discussed on, but one sic-fi mythos that has not been discussed, as I remember, is Galactica. Religion is more important to the Galactica story-line than any of the other shows and also has the most complex treatment of it.

Re: Manifestations, Scriptures, and Houses of Worship

2012-08-30 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:21 09PM, Stephen Gray wrote: Your response is littered with appeal to authority. X is X because an authority says that X is X is your basica argument. Also, the abscence of evidence is evidence of abscence is also used to say that If X isn't

Re: Manifestations, Scriptures, and Houses of Worship

2012-08-30 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:48 12AM, Stephen Gray wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Why would non-Baha'is go to a MA (abbreviation)? MAs are marketed (may unintentionally) as an eucmenical place of worship where sermons are forbidden because sermons tend to promote

Re: Manifestations, Scriptures, and Houses of Worship

2012-08-29 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:10 05AM, Stephen Gray wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv The thread is mostly about the scriptures, but also covers religions and their founders. The question wasn't about the word unity in unity of religion, but the word religion in

Re: Manifestations, Scriptures, and Houses of Worship

2012-08-27 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Aug 27, 2012, at 2:41 39PM, Stephen Gray wrote: Here's the story that this topic is based on below. http://bahaitheway.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html First off, I think it bears repeating that nothing any individual says, regardless of their position or

Re: soul of Manifestations of God

2012-08-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv It is the Holy Spirit that is pre-existent, I believe, not the rational soul. Don C On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:57 45PM, Hasan Elías wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi all, I want to ask you about the soul of the Manifestation of God. We know that They appear in

Death of Cal rollins

2012-08-09 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Cal was a member of this list at one time. Don C Hello. I am Vanessa Rollins the daughter of Cal Rollins. As my father often spoke of how much he enjoyed his email group of friends, I wanted to let everyone know the sad news that he passed away unexpectedly on

Re: Baha'u'llah mentioned in Bee Gees song

2012-08-06 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I don't agree. Don C On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:26 14AM, David Regal wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JECTUQVrvzEfeature=plcp A couple of family members were sure the Bee Gees mentioned the name Baha'u'llah in the song Words. The above link shows they are

Re: Baha'u'llah mentioned in Bee Gees song

2012-08-06 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Muh Luh-uh w/ a swallowed v sound. Typical of the sloppy enunciation that became popular in the 60's/70's. IMO, it was little more than an affectation designed to emulate the supposed spirituality of southern black blues singers, similar to what Bob Dylan later

Re: Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I am not convinced that a human clone would have a soul. More likely, it will only have an animal spirit. It would be alive, but not human. Don C On May 14, 2012, at 11:40 46AM, Hasan Elías wrote: But, do you think that the clone's soul will be akin the soul of

Re: Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On May 14, 2012, at 5:43 07PM, Hasan Elías wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, Don Do you mean a clone is a human being without soul? I mean the result would not be human. Don C He who believes himself spiritual proves he is not.

Re: Cloning, other soul in the same body

2012-05-14 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On May 14, 2012, at 6:49 09PM, Susan Maneck wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Then identical twins should not have souls. They are clones. Not hardly. The process as you know is very different. Not the least of these differences is the fact that the embryo that

Re: Baha'i dreams

2012-02-21 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:53 08PM, David Regal wrote: I am a rare Baha'i who is generally skeptical of Baha'i dreams, i.e., whether they are from God. Many assume that if you have a Baha'i dream, like about the Central Figures, it has to be sent from God. I find

Re: Behavior Problems

2011-12-13 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:28 03PM, Mark A. Foster wrote: Very nice. Do you mind if I use it? If you like, I can credit you by name. If you think it'll be useful, use it. Don C - Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature.

Re: Behavior Problems

2011-12-13 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Dec 13, 2011, at 6:21 49PM, Mark A. Foster wrote: Again, if you would like me to mention you by name, let me know. I usually won't do that without the person's permission. I don't really care. Who's going to remember my name an hour after reading it? LOL

Re: Behavior Problems

2011-12-12 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:52 44PM, Mark A. Foster wrote: I call this method, the “what?” technique. Here is how to do it: When you suspect that someone is playing a game with you, ask, “What?,” “What do you mean?,” “Say that again?,” “Oh?,” “Huh?,” or words to that

Re: Stealth Jihad

2010-12-30 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I think perennialism leaves us in the Dark Ages, but triumphalism is not good either. I was rather pleased to see the House of Justice criticize that attitude in their recent letter to the Counsellors. Same here, tho I think what they are objecting to is not

Re: Stealth Jihad

2010-12-30 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, How about Hidden Words saying Treasure the companionship of the righteous and eschew all fellowship with the ungodly. I don't think ungodly really means atheist here. Thinking about the Persian word (ashrAr) means more to me

Re: Stealth Jihad

2010-12-29 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Muslims will also say that suicide attacks are defensive in nature because the west first invaded Arab countries (isreal). Americans say the invasion of Iraq was defensive because . . . . . Actually, I don't remember why. Don C --

Re: Stealth Jihad

2010-12-29 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Extreme pacifists are thus very close to the anarchists, in the sense that both of these groups lay an undue emphasis on the rights and merits of the individual. The Bahá'í conception of social life is essentially based on the subordination of the individual will to

Re: List and member of bahai-st

2010-12-28 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Can' the list owner just remove him? He is in occultation. 8-) And has been for years. Don C -- - - - Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature. __

Re: Joseph Emmanuel

2010-12-17 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv With regard to the Seal of the Prophets Did Baha'u'llah refer to Himself as a nabi or a rasul? If he did not, then this whole question is moot. Tim I agree. By my understanding, the stations of prophethood, nabi and rasu'l, have

Re: How will they cope?

2010-12-13 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I would say our growth rate after the Ruhi era is less than before Ruhi era. We really won't know for a few more years, but at the present he indications I get are to the contrary. That is, our retention rate is rising significantly. But to be sure, we need to

Re: How will they cope?

2010-12-13 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv The real number of Baha'is in India may actually be below 50,000, not over 2 million. Nobody knows because nobody has had any contact w/ most of them since they ostensibly enrolled. Dear Don, I think we do have a fairly accurate

Re: How will they cope?

2010-12-12 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Faith will increase in numbers vastly in the future. Given that the House is struggling to keep up now how will they do so in future? Most of the responsibility will devolve onto local communities. the Baha'i administration is not a

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Actually the most recent one is Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska. On the contrary, Gravel has been unequivocally opposed to representative democracy for at least the last 10 years or so. In a representative democracy, the representative

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Executive? Doesn't that mean they will have veto power? Not necessarily. You make the mistake of assuming that the American model is the only model. Don C -- - - - Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-23 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv I didn't know they sen't him a letter. I read his blog sometimes, so I should have been able to know that. He rarely mentions, let alone discusses it. See http://bahai-library.com/uhj_theocracy Don C -- - - - Understood properly,

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Flat taxes are actually conservative. Liberals always try to make taxation progressive. This idea first came from the Communist Manifesto. That is a lie. That is, the ideologues propounding such an idea know, or should know, that it is

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv The issue of democracy is that it's policies will reflect what the people who make them and vote for them. Not necessarily. In a democratic form of gov't, the people who make the laws are chosen by the people; the people do not

Re: Grave Influence

2010-11-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv You're making it sound like the future there won't be damocracy anymore. Not as we typically think of it today, no. Perhaps you also believe that the ancient Athenians and the American Founding Fathers advocated a pure democracy? The

Re: WORLD ORDER

2010-10-17 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv In response to Gilberto's question and Don C's response I offer the following quotes for consideration... These were all published well after Wilson used the phrase. Further, the translations I can find that pre-date Shoghi Effendi do

Re: Conspiracy Thoeries and Recent New Events Align alot

2010-10-15 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Didn't the Bahai writings talk about a New World order even before Wilson's speech? While it can be argued that the Baha'i vision equates to a new world order, the terms world order and new world order do not occur in the Writings of

Re: I don't get this passage

2010-09-11 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Sincerity is the foundation-stone of faith. That is, a religious individual must disregard his personal desires and seek in whatever way he can wholeheartedly to serve the public interest; and it is impossible for a human being to turn

Fear of God (was at-Taqwa (Godconciousness))

2010-08-27 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv I remember a friend (then, not yet a Baha'i) in college asking me if I could help him to understand what Baha'u'llah meant by the fear of God? Remember in H.S. being totally hung up over some guy (or gal)? Remember how you were

Re: CB Claims

2010-08-24 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Brent - Seems to me that one of your articles should at least touch on the claim that various pretenders to the station of Guardian are legitimized thru' being adopted into the Aghsan. This has become, the last 15 years, a more important argument, it appears to me,

Re: Out of the fusion of two souls a third subtle entity is born;...

2010-08-22 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv But the fact that Khanum didn't correct Rosemary made me feel that there must have been some substance to what she said. Maybe, or maybe not. Ruhiyyih Khanum is not authoritative. Some things I have heard her say or have been reported as her saying need to be

Re: Astral Projection Lucid dreaming

2010-08-18 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Certainly using a mantra as is done in Hinduism and Buddhism has similarities to dhikr which we do have in the Baha'i Faith, And in Christianity, esp the Eastern Church. Don C -- - - - Understood properly, all man's problems are essentially spiritual in nature.

re: What is Unity?

2010-07-07 Thread Don Calkins
The Baha'i Studies Listserv The Baha'i Studies Listserv Are there any papers out there that discuss Unity as a theological concept? Perhaps 'Abdu'l-Baha's Commentary on The Islamic Tradition: I Was a Hidden Treasure... Section B. MAHABBAT(LOVE)Pages 14-20. Tnx, I've pulled it down. Don C

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