There is a learned and friendly discussion between the erudite Mark and the
erudite Brent.
I think there is no doubt that there are many people of good will who invite
peoples of their own Faith to look lovingly at the OTHER.
I am particularly grateful to Mark Foster for providing this link
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:26:25 -, Brent Poirier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our friend Gilberto wrote:
There are also scathing condemnations of Muslims as a community
In the Baha'i Writings there are criticisms of Jews who did not recognize
Jesus Christ, and Christians who did not
Gilberto,
If I might jump in ...
At 03:22 AM 12/12/2004, you wrote:
One would be whether the Bahai claims regarding Islamic entities (i.e.
Muhammad, the Quran, the imams, hadith, etc.) are true.
Both Sunnah and Ashyaa claim to follow the legitimate successors to Muhammad.
The only reason I
Dear Gilberto Simpson
You have asked both Brent Poirier and Mark Foster an interesting question
and I am sure they will reply soon. It is a question you have addressed them
and they will reply. But it is night time in the US and daytime in the UK so
with their permission and your indulgence I will
But hear, O My brother, My plaint against them that claim to
be associated with God and with the Manifestations of His
knowledge, and yet follow their corrupt inclinations, consume
the substance of their neighbour, are given to wine, commit
murder, defraud and slander each other, hurl
Though the purpose of Him Who is the Eternal Truth hath been
to confer everlasting life upon all men, and ensure their
security and peace, yet witness how they have arisen to shed
the blood of His loved ones, and have pronounced on Him the
sentence of death. (Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:07:48 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto:
And secondly, can Bahai claims be fairly described as affirming Islam in a
positive sense, or do they result in co-opting Islam.
Mark:
No religion can be co-opted. They are each distinct divine
Dear Khazeh
Wow, thanks for all that info. That's alot of content. Let me just
respond to a few things:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:17:19 -, Khazeh Fananapazir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Faith of Islam is confirmed. Some of the rules, regulations, and
ordinances of the Dispensation are
Dear Gilberto
Simpson
You have
again most kindly read my letter and made some comments. I appreciate your
comments and questions and although I know not where your home is in space or
cyberspace your thoughts of peace are reciprocated warmly. In fact the Holy Quran
says: Never say to any
I wrote:
However, since this subject is not, to my knowledge, clearly discussed in the
Baha'i primary sources, I try not to limit my speculations.
That should be, I try to limit my speculations.
Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net
Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger
-- Abbie Hoffman
This servant would agree with Mark Foster and of course it is a wonderful
wonderful paper by Reza Shah Kazemi so soon after the 9/11 tragedy.
Presented at Paths to the Heart: Sufism and the Christian East Conference
October 18-20, 2001
University of South Carolina, USA
There are echoes of
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:18:00 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Springboarding from:
The Metaphysics of Interfaith Dialogue: A Qur'anic Perspective
http://www.iis.ac.uk/research/academic_papers/interfaith_dialogue/interfaith_dialogue.htm
Before substantiating this conception
Spring boarding from:
The Metaphysics of Interfaith Dialogue: A Qur'anic Perspective
http://www.iis.ac.uk/research/academic_papers/interfaith_dialogue/interfaith
_dialogue.htm
Dear Gilberto
I was thinking of the Name GERBERT as well as Gilberto tonight
Gerbert studied in Islamic
Hi, Khazeh,
At 01:53 PM 12/12/2004, you wrote:
Baha'u'llah's Writings please I beg you read:
http://bahai-library.com/provisionals/basit.html
One portion reads:
Two stations can be observed in the Divine Unity: Existential Oneness
(tawhíd-i wujudí), and this is that [station] wherein all
from Gilberto Simpson
Dear Khazeh,
Wow, that was again alot of content. Could I ask you a small favor?
Would it be possible to cut-and-paste less, especially if you are not
going to thoroughly discuss something and intersperse comments? In
this last letter it was hard to tell what was the new
Applying the principle of Occam's razor, I like to use the simplest
explanation possible. If a natural explanation for something exists,
that is preferable to a more unlikely explanation that involves a
breaking of natural laws.
I think all of religion can be explained without the breaking of
I do not believe in what I call physical miracles; that is,
violations of the scientific laws of the universe (such as gravity).
That does not make spirituality and religion any less wonderful. Far from it.
This reminds me of poets who also know the scientific basis of beautiful
natural
Hi, Gilberto,
At 05:29 PM 12/12/2004, you wrote:
No, that's not what I meant. BOTH Po-tay-to and Po-tah-to they are just
different ways of saying the same thing. I was asking if it was possible that
saying God has one will is really the same as perennialism.
Oh, I see. I don't think so, no.
In a message dated 12/13/2004 12:14:59 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I forget if
I've talked to you about this before. I would have thoughtthat the
elephant is God.
I don't think we get to see "GOD" other than what the Prophets show us of
Him. So the continuity
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