[digitalradio] Re: Digitalradio Group

2008-01-16 Thread jgorman01
Rick, I agree with you completely. I wouldn't have researched the propnet group without hearing about it here. I see where they are operating probes as they call them below 10 meters. Not sure how legal that is. After watching their 30 meter beacons for a while and seeing them come up over

[digitalradio] Re: Digitalradio Group

2008-01-15 Thread jgorman01
I know some of the comments and arguments here are boring at times. However, they do serve a purpose in refining positions and educating folks about the rules. Let's face it, with the number of hams the US has we are an 800 pound gorilla in amateur radio. Maybe not the only one, but certainly

[digitalradio] Re: (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-14 Thread jgorman01
What frequency were you using? Was it a keyboard mode that started calling on top of you, or a modem mode? Hard to believe someone with a keyboard mode and a waterfall display would start over top of you, although there are jerks everywhere. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose

[digitalradio] Re: Continuing evolution of HF Ham radio communications:

2008-01-14 Thread jgorman01
First, let me say that these recommendations are based solely upon hopes and dreams. There are no facts or data with by which one can adequately assess the recommendations. If you want to convince someone that further segmentation of the rtty/data segments into smaller and smaller pieces is a

[digitalradio] Re: Continuing evolution of HF Ham radio communications:

2008-01-14 Thread jgorman01
But you're ignoring the aggregate effects. It's like showing your wife a hair off an elephant that is rampaging through your house and saying, no big deal, look it's just a little hair. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:26 PM

[digitalradio] Re: APRS remote access / automation software

2008-01-13 Thread jgorman01
Yep, just what we need, more amateur to non-amateur messaging taking place on the ham bands. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A. APRS (Automatic Position Reporting System) uses a Terminal Node Controller (a type of radio modem) to

[digitalradio] Re: Is Propnet/HF APRS legal in USA ? (was : Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war

2008-01-13 Thread jgorman01
A couple of answers. One, is that as a service we are self-policing. I think if you read the original document establishing this, it didn't mean that each individual polices himself but rather that the service as a whole polices itself routing out operations that don't follow the rules. Part of

[digitalradio] Re: Beacons

2008-01-13 Thread jgorman01
Part 97.3(a)(9) Beacon. An amateur station transmitting communications for the purposes of observation of propagation and reception or other related experimental activities. Tell me where the mention of receiver or transceiver is in this rule? It simply doesn't matter what the DESIGN of the

[digitalradio] Re: Curmudgions and an idea for digital operation

2008-01-11 Thread jgorman01
I've been remiss in answering some of your questions. You'll either have the start of a pactor type emission or an illegal emission type. I had this argument several years ago when pactor 3 showed up. If you look at J7D, it is defined as Single-sideband, suppressed carrier; with two or more

[digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread jgorman01
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan Barrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I personally had a Red Cross shelter leader run after my truck and flag me down because she thought we were packing up. quote: You don't know how much we still need you guys. Until you arrived we had no

[digitalradio] Re: Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

2008-01-11 Thread jgorman01
Les At 08:13 AM 1/11/2008, jgorman01 wrote: --- In mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.comdigitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Alan Barrow ml9003@ wrote: snip I personally had a Red Cross shelter leader run after my truck and flag me down because she thought we were packing up

[digitalradio] Re: Curmudgions and an idea for digital operation

2008-01-10 Thread jgorman01
Hate to tell you but some of us cranky, bitter, and rude (old) men have simply been there and done that. You just don't want to hear that. For example, do you think a permanently installed ham antenna is going to survive on a roof top when all other commercial grade antennas have been destroyed?

[digitalradio] Re: Curmudgions and an idea for digital operation

2008-01-10 Thread jgorman01
. 73, Rick, KV9U Alan Barrow wrote: jgorman01 wrote: Hate to tell you but some of us cranky, bitter, and rude (old) men have simply been there and done that. I certainly saw and worked with some generous kind old man hams in my efforts. (Shared a shelter operation

[digitalradio] Re: Oregon Governor Allocates $250,000 for Digital Communications Network

2008-01-09 Thread jgorman01
Does this ever increasing number of government agencies doing this scare the bejeebers out of anybody. That is, the government buying permanent infrastructure and someday wanting a return on investment, like using it to augment regular communications? Jim WA0LYK --- In

[digitalradio] Re: Oregon Governor Allocates $250,000 for Digital Communications Network

2008-01-09 Thread jgorman01
Services, Radio Shop jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this ever increasing number of government agencies doing this scare the bejeebers out of anybody. That is, the government buying permanent infrastructure and someday wanting a return on investment, like using

FW: [digitalradio] Re: Oregon Governor Allocates $250,000 for Digital Communicat

2008-01-09 Thread jgorman01
Let me post a couple of quotes from a comment to rm-11392 and then tell me that no government or organization in the US will use the amateur equipment they purchase, EVER, for their own purposes when they feel the financial pinch that you mention. As an active member of numerous emergency

[digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread jgorman01
What rule says you can't leave an automatic station unattended? It would be a great rule, but I don't see it. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is one thing to be automatic and attended and another to be automatic and

[digitalradio] Re: Beacon's ?

2008-01-05 Thread jgorman01
operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal. -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:09 PM To: digitalradio

[digitalradio] Re: HF BBS systems

2007-12-30 Thread jgorman01
. Rud Merriam K5RUD ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://TheHamNetwork.net -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject

[digitalradio] Re: QRM on PACTOR PMBOS now from DAVE, Congrats!!!

2007-12-29 Thread jgorman01
is the time folks need to be presenting concrete evidence to the fcc as to where limits should be placed. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jgorman01 jgorman24@ wrote: I'm not sure what HF Packet BBS's you're

[digitalradio] Ham Radio ALE High Frequency Network (Re: FCC to Kill Digital Radio?)

2007-12-29 Thread jgorman01
One problem with your scenario is that the petition uses necessary bandwidth for data emissions, you are describing occupied bandwidth for phone/image emissions. From a practical standpoint there is a BIG difference in determining the two. Data emissions are nice because their parameters are

[digitalradio] Re: HF BBS systems

2007-12-29 Thread jgorman01
You bring up a good point and this is a good time to bring it up. The definition of the Amateur Service in the US (and I think the ITU's is the same) indicates the service is for radiocommunications between duly authorized persons interested in radio technique solely with a personal aim

[digitalradio] Re: QRM on PACTOR PMBOS now from DAVE, Congrats!!!

2007-12-28 Thread jgorman01
I'm not sure what HF Packet BBS's you're talking about but all my packet tnc's had a carrier detect feature and would not transmit if one was detected. Was it perfect, heck no! But it was available AND it was turned on. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Demetre SV1UY [EMAIL

[digitalradio] Re: 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to Cross the Atlantic

2007-11-06 Thread jgorman01
I believe that if you are licensed by the fcc, you must obey fcc rules and regulations when operating in international waters. Only when you reach national waters do foreign rules and regs come into play. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Hltn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

[digitalradio] Re: 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to Cross the Atlantic

2007-11-06 Thread jgorman01
Looks to me like it should be operating on 28.20–28.30 MHz according to 97.203d. Also, if the balloons path goes over the National Radio Quiet Zone, 97.203(e)/97.3(a)(30) it looks like permission is supposed to be obtained. Lastly, does foreign operation come into play and the need for

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread jgorman01
to fix it with many different distros eventually lead me away from Linux for now. 73, Rick, KV9U jgorman01 wrote: Rick, What sound card are you running? Jim WA0LYK

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread jgorman01
The nv driver is a generic open source software and give people fits. Try the nvidia site for their linux driver. The nvidia module and nv are two separate pieces of software. I had to set my monitor to vesa with the nv driver in order to get it to work, and not very well. With the nvidia

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread jgorman01
. I may try rebooting and unplug/plug the audigy card in. All the other usb devices seem to be detected ok. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jgorman01 jgorman24@ wrote: Is the MP3 an USB card or pci

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-20 Thread jgorman01
I couldn't get fldigi to run. I get aborted with no explanation. However, to answer your question, $HOME/.something is: /root/.fldigi $HOME = /root/ Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, k5rud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a number of problems with the system. It booted fine. I

[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-20 Thread jgorman01
Rick, What sound card are you running? Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly drive my Samsung SyncMaster

[digitalradio] Re: Need to Expand the HF Auto Band Segments

2007-10-18 Thread jgorman01
You have hit the nail on the head with the use of emergency service as a simple justification for non-emergency use. There is a COST to the use of amateur spectrum, primarily, time denied to others. However, since there is no physical cost to automatic stations, they have no incentive to

[digitalradio] Re: PACTOR-WIDE MODES-EMERGENCY COMMS: Cooling off period

2007-10-18 Thread jgorman01
I'm sorry, but a mode that expands willy nilly from about ~500 Hz to 2.5 kHz AFTER a qso has started is just asking for trouble. This is why busy detection will never work really well for pactor 3. If a session starts and someone unknowingly starts another qso ON A CLEAR FREQUENCY besides a

[digitalradio] Re: Why Amateur EmComm?

2007-10-18 Thread jgorman01
http://TheHamNetwork.net -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:11 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Why Amateur EmComm? Lets discuss

[digitalradio] Re: Need new emergency communications mode

2007-10-18 Thread jgorman01
Look up the definition in part 97 of harmful interference. Harmful interference doesn't need to be either willful or malicious. Automatic stations can be required to cease operation by the FCC if they create harmful interference to ongoing radio communications. This is what I believe Riley

[digitalradio] Re: What scenarios require 24/7?

2007-10-18 Thread jgorman01
How about an event just below an extinction of mankind catastrophe. Perhaps a massive nuclear attack, a super volcano erupting, a very large asteroid, or a glancing blow of a gamma ray burst from a dying star in our galaxy! Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detection

2007-10-15 Thread jgorman01
Because it was occurring right on published winlink channels. Could some of them been kb2kb, sure, some of them could have been. However, even then, there weren't that many kb2kb qso's on pactor taking place in the auto sub-bands. Why do you think winlink has spread their stations out? Without

[digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detection

2007-10-15 Thread jgorman01
Remember, this was a couple of years ago. Plus, it really doesn't matter if it is kb2kb interfering with a pmbo session or two pmbo sessions. There was obviously no busy detection nor did the interfering operators listen first. It was still pactor on pactor interference and that is the point.

[digitalradio] Re: Imitating the big guys

2007-10-14 Thread jgorman01
Part of the problem is that there is a misunderstanding about who should operate where. In the US at least, the frequencies shown for automated wideband operation are NOT reserved or allocated for this purpose. These are the frequencies automated stations using wideband signals are restricted

[digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detection

2007-10-14 Thread jgorman01
Don't believe everything you hear. A couple of years ago when I was doing packet work, I listened to winlink a lot. What I heard convinced me that clients did not listen and that the hidden transmitter was not only a problem with other stations, but winlink stations too. You can't believe how

[digitalradio] Re: Consensus on power/audio setting

2007-10-07 Thread jgorman01
You are dealing with two issues here, continuous power output and distortion caused by ALC. PSK31 is basically like turning your transmitter on continuously. If your rig is rated for continuous full output then you should have no problem. Please recognize that most amateur rigs are rated for

[digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM

2007-10-02 Thread jgorman01
I'm not sure soundings can be classified as beacons. The rule states or other related experimental activities which indicates that beacons have an experimental purpose, not one used for negotiating a two way conversation. In other words, you can't have a two-way conversation with a beacon. The

[digitalradio] Re: interesting piece by K1ZZ

2007-10-02 Thread jgorman01
The only problem I see with this is how several tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of hams are going to do 10-20 seconds of sounding even using whole segments of bands. There won't be any room or time for actually talking! I just don't see this being good for most HF communications.

[digitalradio] Re: ALE , J65, Pactor 1 thru ?, etc.

2007-10-02 Thread jgorman01
Be careful what you ask for! Would you really want 2,3, or 4 hundred thousand US hams doing ALE soundings on all the bands? Even every six hours? How about using data modes that are 20 kHz wide like the ARRL HSMM committee recommended? How about with no busy detection? How about in 4 - 5

[digitalradio] Re: FCC and the unattended ALE/PACTOR lepers

2007-09-23 Thread jgorman01
Except pactor 3 modems, in essence, choose the operating bandwidth in an unattended fashion. Even in a keyboard to keyboard conversation, a pactor 3 modem can vary its bandwidth based upon the signal strength and do so without operator intervention. This means you might spend 15 minutes at 500

[digitalradio] Re: FCC and the unattended ALE/PACTOR lepers

2007-09-23 Thread jgorman01
In addition, 97.3(a)(22) Harmful interference. Interference which endangers the functioning of a radionavigation service or of other safety services or seriously degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts a radiocommunication service operating in accordance with the Radio Regulations.

[digitalradio] Re: ALE yes ... or no?

2007-09-23 Thread jgorman01
I have let some folks in the ARRL know my thoughts but I also got the impression they weren't interested. Rather than concentrate on dedicated channels/sessions types of protocols, it seems to me a multi-user/multi-session system would better serve everyone. I know everyone cries about how slow

[digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-19 Thread jgorman01
Let me point out that you are not talking about co-channel interference to your signal. You are discussing interference to your ability to use the spectrum. Two entirely different subjects. Using your example, there is only one lane and that is all there will ever be, just like the amateur

[digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-18 Thread jgorman01
Your prescription for doing away with spectrum sharing is totally in conflict with the amateur radio paradigm of shared spectrum/no owns a frequency. It will result in the balkanization of the spectrum as competing modes/protocols/services all ask for their piece of the spectrum. You will

[digitalradio] Re: Busy Detectors

2007-09-18 Thread jgorman01
Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. Allowing designated frequencies for just one purpose, in your case email, will open the doors for requesting designated frequencies for all kinds of things, not just mode restrictions. Some will want restricted frequencies for qrp only, dx only,

[digitalradio] Re: Amateur Radio in Kansas Disaster

2007-05-07 Thread jgorman01
As far as I know there is no amateur radio support even needed. Here in Kansas the National Guard manages and is responsible for the State EOC and for implementing support plans for all county and local EOC's. They have also integrated plans with all the law enforcement agencies for

[digitalradio] Re: FCC regulations (was Digi Voice)

2007-05-03 Thread jgorman01
After giving this some thought I wonder what HF rig would you use with 20 kHz bandwidth and what mode? What design criteria would be needed to use this, especially in J3D? Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John B. Stephensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm at the low end of an

[digitalradio] Re: FCC regulations (was Digi Voice)

2007-05-03 Thread jgorman01
meters. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: jgorman01 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 13:04 UTC Subject: [digitalradio] Re: FCC regulations (was Digi Voice) After giving this some thought I wonder what HF rig would you

[digitalradio] Re: FCC regulations (was Digi Voice)

2007-05-03 Thread jgorman01
Receivers may have this bandwidth, but there are no generally available transmitters from the big manufacturers that I know of that allow this bandwidth. While the op-amps may be linear to greater than 20 kHz, they must also be have a flat response curve. The ouputs may also be pretty linear as

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
I must be one of the stupid folks that have a misconception about what the withdrawn petition was to accomplish. Could you enlighten us on just exactly what modes are being blocked by the current regulations. What bands do these modes operate on? What is the purpose of the blocked modes? The

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
Can you give me a regulation that restricts very wide modems within the phone/image segments. If you are talking about using data in the phone/image segment, I'll agree but I don't see a paragraph that limits bandwidth within the phone/image segment. I will agree that wider bandwidths could be

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
: jgorman01 To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 15:18 UTC Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up .. I must be one of the stupid folks that have a misconception about what the withdrawn petition was to accomplish. Could you enlighten us

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
which is usually interpreted as 3 kHz. There is nothing allowing data (computer communications) or RTTY (direct printing telegraphy) in the phone/image segments. Unfortunately, image is defined as facsimile and television. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: jgorman01

[digitalradio] Re: New 200kHz Wideband Digital Voice on 20 meters in USA?

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
This is exactly what I've been trying to say, there is no bandwidth limitations currently in the regs. Trying to argue that the ARRL's bandwidth petition screwed up experimentation and stops people from using newer, better modes just is not correct. The only problem I have with your example is

[digitalradio] Re: There is No FCC Bandwidth Limit for Digital on HF? Communications Quality

2007-05-01 Thread jgorman01
Bonnie, Where did the technology jail go that you have touted so many times when discussing current regulations? Secondly, how do you deal with the need to declare your proposal as a standard so that manufacturers will begin to produce equipment? Something this complicated will require a

[digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-29 Thread jgorman01
Danny, Very good points all. I had not thought about this in a situation like Katrina. Can you imagine the ARC, Salvation Army, each local EOC, and the state EOC all having different encryption keys? If hundreds of hams show up to a disaster like this, who is going to administer all the

[digitalradio] Re: the mislead about pactor and winlink in general

2007-04-27 Thread jgorman01
Sorry to hear about the cancer. One of the nastier banes of human existence. Actually too many hams don't understand the rules and reg concerning these terms. Read the definition of automatic control. On a simplex frequency, how would a remote station exert control over the transmitting

[digitalradio] Re: Busy detector

2007-03-11 Thread jgorman01
I don't know how hard it would be to pull this part of the software out and run it on its own AND to control a transmitter with it. Remember, the pmbo is probably seeing a CTS indication from the pactor modem. You would have to use another receiver and pc running scamp and somehow get the pmbo

[digitalradio] Re: Busy detector

2007-03-11 Thread jgorman01
; this clamped reset is maintained until the SBD reports frequency clear for Y consecutive seconds, after which the Server re-initializes the Pactor Modem and returns to Idle. 60 Y 300. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jgorman01 jg6164@ wrote: I

[digitalradio] Re: Busy detector

2007-03-11 Thread jgorman01
would definitely be trivial. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jgorman01 jg6164@ wrote: I really don't know anything about the pmbo software. What you describe may be trivial from a system analysis standpoint but actually coding it may

[digitalradio] Re: What's with Boulder?

2007-03-11 Thread jgorman01
My atomic clock changed right on time. I would have to look at the manual, but the clock itself may have the software for DST. However, WWV/B would have to put out a bit that says DST for the clock to have known to change. My clock does have time zone settings incorporated into the software. I

[digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detector (process definition).

2007-03-10 Thread jgorman01
Just a few thoughts: * A busy detector is not a panacea for all qrm, especially as you look at the lower bands. I can easily lay out a scenario for 80 meters or daytime on 40m where the PMBO should transmit when the freq is busy. This scenario happens less as you expand the skip zones on the

[digitalradio] Re: Busy frequency detector (process definition).

2007-03-10 Thread jgorman01
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a big problem if the activity detector senses the maximum possible bandwidth to be possibly used. P3 exchanges are full bandwidth for the server (some 2.4 kHz) and P2 bandwidth (500 Hz) for the ARQ responses.

[digitalradio] Re: Busy detector

2007-03-10 Thread jgorman01
Ask yourself why scamp died. Do you really think the winlink users who have spent a thousand dollars or more on pactor modems are going to relish throwing that investment away because the winlink admin's have decided to go to a soundcard mode? Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com,

[digitalradio] Re: NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-03 Thread jgorman01
This is misinformation that can be harmful to newbies or folks that don't have the knowledge of about how the two different types of signals (FSK versus AFSK) are generated. At the most basic level, if you look at the math involved in generating the two types of signals, i.e., FSK versus AFSK,

[digitalradio] Re: AFSK; FSK; SSB as heterodyne device etc.

2007-02-03 Thread jgorman01
You just made my point by showing suppressed carrier and opposite sideband values. The values you state are ok for properly operating transmitters but how about non-properly operating transmitters? If the FCC sends you a notice that you are transmitting a readily heard suppressed carrier you

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-13 Thread jgorman01
It's not that the distro's are not compatible. Distributions by the different vendors, i.e. redhat, mandrake, suse, puppy, etc. pretty much use the same linux kernels, libraries, and software. They are generally just different conglomerations of software based upon what the distro is aimed at.

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread jgorman01
The last distribution I bought, SUSE 9.3, was very easy to install and most everything worked. Adding some programs was easy, some were hard. I wanted to use my PC with my IPOD Shuffle and getting ITunes replacement software working was difficult because I had to retrieve and compile several

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread jgorman01
This really isn't hard. There were only three commands to use: './configure', 'make', and 'make install' to compile and install the libraries. The hard part was doing the internet searches to find the correct versions. This isn't really any more difficult than searching the internet to find the

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread jgorman01
That's my one pet peeve about Linux. You go looking for a program to do what you want and find out it is two years old and requires libraries that have been updated 4 times since then. Sometimes trying to find the older libraries is a real challenge. I would love it if everyone would store the

[digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

2006-12-12 Thread jgorman01
It's not necessarily the automatic operation that cause the problem, although they certainly can. The biggest problem is that pactor 3 modems are basically designed for commercial use and assume that once they have a 3 kHz channel the whole channel belongs to them for the entire session. The

[digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-12-04 Thread jgorman01
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please see below... Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:36 PM To: digitalradio

[digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-12-04 Thread jgorman01
If the folks working on getting nerve responses to control artificial limbs really wanted to make some money they would be working on how to interface a cell phone keyboard via bluetooth directly to nerve connections. My son would be standing in line to have it transplanted tommorrow if he could

[digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-12-01 Thread jgorman01
Your argument isn't logical. If the NGO's don't have the resources to use the frequencies they currently have assigned, where would the resources come from to allow them to use amateur service frequencies reassigned to the land fixed/mobile service? How would they convince the FCC to allocate

[digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-11-30 Thread jgorman01
Let me paraphrase N7DC's comment. The local, state, and federal governments and NGO's want our help - then they should provide the equipment and the bandwidth for its use- and that bandwidth is out there, assigned to agencies and NGO's now. I've checked and both the Red Cross and Salvation Army

[digitalradio] Re: ERRATUM

2006-11-29 Thread jgorman01
Except on 80m, when used to contact an automatic station in a mode wider than 500 Hz. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John B. Stephensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pactor-3 is as legal as it was before the Omnibus RO, but unless you are sending a fax it is restricted to the new

[digitalradio] Re: New multimode program for Linux

2006-11-26 Thread jgorman01
When my windows pc's hard disk died about 1 1/2 yrs ago, I decided not to replace it. I upgraded my linux box to suse 9.3 and haven't looked back. Open Office does everything I need in place of microsoft office. You'll need to become comfortable with tar, ./configure, make, and 'make

[digitalradio] Re: FCC Rules: Pactor-3 is OK on HF, and Pactor-1 is OK for Image.

2006-11-19 Thread jgorman01
Bonnie, Why can't you use bandwidths of 500 or less in Olivia or MT63 to send images in the narrow subbands? My copy of gMFSK allows setting parameters of both protocols to values that should meet the requirements of the new FCC rules. I recognize MT63 may not have an occupied bandwidth of 500

[digitalradio] Re: Emission Designators - J2D Not In Common Use by Hams - USA FCC

2006-11-19 Thread jgorman01
Bonnie, You need to revise your list somewhat, and everyone should know these are not necessarily official. The ITU (more specifically Working Party 8A) shows Pactor II as 375HJ2D and Pactor III as 2K20J2D. I would assume these are as official as it gets. In order for an emission to be classed

[digitalradio] Re: local HF net successes

2006-10-27 Thread jgorman01
I've experienced some of this problem in the past too. I believe part of the problem is that as you go up in freq, low angle radiation (ground wave) is easier to achieve but the ground absorption increases too. 15 meters seemed to be the best compromise. That is, 10m had good low angle but high

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL Proposal: CW and Digital on 5MHz at 100W

2006-10-26 Thread jgorman01
I do have some concerns that would have been addressed by Bonnie's strictures. One, can everyone watching a waterfall display recognize a weak Federal SSB or digital signal trying to claim the frequency? Two, there are no restrictions on automatic stations. It looks to me like auto stations

[digitalradio] Re: Don't ignore proposals/local HF net successes

2006-10-26 Thread jgorman01
Funny, you didn't have any problem critizing Ed Hare and by fiat, the ARRL on their position on BPL interference mitigation. Seems to me that what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[digitalradio] Re: ARRL Proposal: CW and Digital on 5MHz at 100W

2006-10-26 Thread jgorman01
Still, I believe sooner or later there will be a conflict on a shared frequency. If there isn't going to be a problem, then why bother making it shared? When this occurs, if standard operating procedures were laid out in the rulles, it would minimize the chance of conflict. Jim WA0LYK --- In

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-25 Thread jgorman01
anyway, John - K8OCL From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:15:47 - I suspect if there was one, wide bandwidth, 10 kHz

[digitalradio] Re: Digital basics ? ALC ?

2006-10-25 Thread jgorman01
First, it ignores all the empirical evidence to the contrary. This alone would make the statement suspect. Second, it ignores the different methods and implementations of ALC in different transmitters. One of the first effects of ALC is the imposition of an amplitude modulation on the RF

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques

2006-10-25 Thread jgorman01
Actually, the statement that a solution is possible is unproven. A more accurate one might be that a solution may be possible. However, 802.11 is NOT a good example to use in citing how it might be done! The statement about 802.11 doesn't tell the whole story, not by a long shot. These types

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-24 Thread jgorman01
that the government isn't providing the proper kind of communications. Its not equipment...its trained radio operators. Thanks, getting off my soap box 73, Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-24 Thread jgorman01
You need to explain this further. Just making the statement that IM is a better analogy just doesn't provide any information as to how it applies to sharing of RF frequencies, at least not to me. You might help me out by elucidating a little on just what shared resource with IM is applicable to

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-24 Thread jgorman01
I'll be honest here, I don't know if Pactor starts in mode P1 or P2 or maybe either. I do know it doesn't connect in P3. It connects in one of the slower modes and then expands to P3 if the signal is sufficient. This means every pactor connection, where P3 is available, does this and is one of

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-24 Thread jgorman01
I'm not sure emergency communications is or should be the driver here. I don't think anyone (or at least most) would begrudge some HF frequencies be used for 3 kHz data during an actual emergency. Where the fly is in the ointment is where these frequencies are desired 365 days a year (or some

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-24 Thread jgorman01
to the HF AP instead of at each other. If you are using a non-directional antenna, then you would simply look for an AP in the area of the world you wish to work. Simple. From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-23 Thread jgorman01
Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, The old telephone party line is a poor analogy. Think more along the lines of IM when it comes to high-speed data users all sharing the same frequency at the same time. 73, John - K8OCL From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-23 Thread jgorman01
Yea, but that 100 word message could have been sent in about 3 minutes using 30 wpm CW. I've done both, and the SSB'ers have a hard time understanding that CW is that much faster than voice. Almost what you quote for the 300 baud text data, and in a much smaller bandwidth. Also, using your

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-23 Thread jgorman01
PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Let the software do the queuing...you just type away or send your file, etc. If you think the queue is too large, QSY. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01 Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-23 Thread jgorman01
users (waiting their turn) and a bandwidth of 2.4 KHz than with narrower methods such as PSKmail with its ARQ PSK63 modulation. Sincerely, Rick, KV9U jgorman01 wrote: A couple of comments. The FCC must consider more than just how fast data can be sent. It must also consider how

[digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC RO

2006-10-23 Thread jgorman01
Starting in narrow mode, moving to wide mode, then back to narrow mode will only work properly if you and everyone else doing it is considerate and checks the adjacent frequencies adequately for occupancy. Otherwise, you'll be just like winlink, start out in narrow mode and go to wide mode

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