Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread Robert Dew
My intention is to install GnuCash, or some other accounting system, on my leased ProxMox, which is located approx 250kms (155miles) from my office. The install application will be run on a Ubuntu Virtual Machine. To me it would make no sense to add a windows style desktop to the machine and

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
I'm using the final option - keeping enough there to cover the check. His story is that he has no plans to cash the check, but he didn't know where the check is anymore. *sigh* On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:07 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > You 'paid' when you

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of

2024-04-09 Thread Robert Dew
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 21:23:16 +0100 From: G R Hewitt To: david amaral , GnuCash User List Subject: Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Also Teamviewer runs on a MAC too.

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
Thank you very much. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 8:19 PM David Cousens wrote: > Richard > > The general rules in accounting practice are that transactions are > recognised in a business' books as income when they are earned and as > expenses when they are incurred unless affected by other business

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 4:37 PM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 4/9/2024 12:50 PM, R Losey wrote: > > Thanks; I wasn't sure if those (cash vs accrual) were the correct terms. > > > > Legally, are you saying that if I write a check for $50 and send it to my > >

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Mac comes with screensharing built in. No need for a separate app. Some linux distributions also include VNC apps by default, or they can easily be installed. Regards, Adrien On 4/9/24 3:23 PM, G R Hewitt wrote: Also Teamviewer runs on a MAC too.

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You 'paid' when you 'tendered' the payment. (tender isn't just an offer of payment, but includes acceptance/receipt, which has happened in this case. It does not include cashing/depositing or otherwise processing a negotiable instrument that was tendered as payment.) How you handle the

Re: [GNC] export to csv?

2024-04-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
On 4/9/24 18:03, Geoff wrote: File / Export / Export Active Register to CSV ... Geoff = On 10/04/2024 10:48 am, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 gnucash-5.5-6.fc39.x86_64 I would like to do a find, then export to results to a CSV (or other) spreadsheet. How do I

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread David Cousens
Richard The general rules in accounting practice are that transactions are recognised in a business' books as income when they are earned and as expenses when they are incurred unless affected by other business or taxation legislation. This is the position for accrual accounting. Some smaller

Re: [GNC] export to csv?

2024-04-09 Thread Geoff
File / Export / Export Active Register to CSV ... Geoff = On 10/04/2024 10:48 am, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 gnucash-5.5-6.fc39.x86_64 I would like to do a find, then export to results to a CSV (or other) spreadsheet. How do I do this? Many thanks, -T

[GNC] export to csv?

2024-04-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user
Hi All, Fedora 39 gnucash-5.5-6.fc39.x86_64 I would like to do a find, then export to results to a CSV (or other) spreadsheet. How do I do this? Many thanks, -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 4/9/2024 12:50 PM, R Losey wrote: Thanks; I wasn't sure if those (cash vs accrual) were the correct terms. Legally, are you saying that if I write a check for $50 and send it to my uncle, it's "paid" whether or not he ever cashes it? As as aside, I am actually in this situation; I sent e

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread G R Hewitt
Also Teamviewer runs on a MAC too. On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 16:16, david amaral via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook > at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps > remotely >

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-04-09 09:55, R Losey wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 8:42 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) > mailto:stan%2...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: > On cash basis, it's not an expense until it's paid. Therefore, _nothing_ > is recorded until the payment date after the statement date after the >

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-04-09 09:50, R Losey wrote: > Legally, are you saying that if I write a check for $50 and send it to my > uncle, it's "paid" whether or not he ever cashes it? In the United States, yes. If you owe someone a debt and send them a check but they don't cash it, you have still paid them, just

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Gyle McCollam
R Losey, "I thought "floating a check" means that one issues a check, knowing that there isn't money to cover it, but planning to deposit funds before the check is presented for cashing." That is actually called check kiting and is actually, I was going to say technically, but actually is

[GNC] Accounts Receivable: How do I handle a Tip?

2024-04-09 Thread Mark via gnucash-user
Apr 9, 2024 08:45:34 Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user : > I'm very leery about hand editing anything to do with the AP and AR systems; > there's a caution against that in the documentation. And the invoice is > already posted, I'd prefer not to unpost and edit it. I believe you can hand edit the

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Kalpesh Patel
In the end, monies is what is “float”. That is what I remember from finance course number of decades ago; it is more of money function rather than time function. Anyways, I also have pondered with that “delay” between when one has “started” the transaction and when one has “completed” the

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 8:42 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) < stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2024-04-09 01:19, David Carlson wrote: > > Nearly every time [the bank's] list doesn't match my list, the > > difference is precisely the difference between when I wrote the check or > > when I initiated

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
Thanks; I wasn't sure if those (cash vs accrual) were the correct terms. Legally, are you saying that if I write a check for $50 and send it to my uncle, it's "paid" whether or not he ever cashes it? As as aside, I am actually in this situation; I sent e check many years ago to someone who has

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
I thought "floating a check" means that one issues a check, knowing that there isn't money to cover it, but planning to deposit funds before the check is presented for cashing. But perhaps you mean "float time" -- that may well be the correct term. I was just interested in knowing what people

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
Noted, and thanks for the information. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 3:20 AM David Carlson wrote: > I decided to report here why I think it is "ok" to import the transaction > list from a bank and to accept their "Posted Dates." When I perform the > import operation I am using that tool to reconcile

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
Thank you! I feel validated for doing it the same way! I, too, think that doing it differently would lead to confusion. However, when paying invoices, I use the date I paid the invoice; if I were sending invoices, I'd use the date I send them. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 2:34 AM G R Hewitt wrote:

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
I agree with everything you said... but consider the case when one does not keep receipts and the only information one has is the bank statement and credit card statement wouldn't that drive one to HAVE to enter from the bank data? Or suppose one is trying to keep books for a recently widowed

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
Thanks for the pointer; now that I have a phrase for which to search, maybe I'll find some better information. I've always dated transactions on the day I write the check, or when I swipe the credit card, so waiting until they clear seems odd to me. On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 8:11 PM Christopher Lam

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread R Losey
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:51 PM Liz wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:11:37 -0500 > R Losey wrote: > > > Since I first learned about recording transactions, I have always > > dated a transaction on the date I wrote the check; similarly, when > > entering credit card transactions, I use the date

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
That's not the difference. I understand you are using the credit card as a "30 day net" account with each vendor (I also do that) but for accounting purposes it's not the same as if each vendor were giving you a 30 day net invoice (and the bank just bundling these for a single payment of all

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread david amaral via gnucash-user
For anyone wanting to access gnucash or any app on a windows systemlook at teamviewer. lets you set up computer and laptops to access all your aps remotely On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:05:34 PM GMT-7, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-04-09 05:25, Kalpesh Patel wrote: > In the states, isn't that what is called "floats"? > > -Original Message- > From: Liz > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2024 6:50 PM > I think it is a philosophical difference. > There are legal ramifications, especially when you are spending money. >

Re: [GNC] Accounts Receivable: How do I handle a Tip?

2024-04-09 Thread Mark at Lorimark
I 'unpost' the invoices and edit for a new line containing 'tip' and post that to a different income account (cuz I like to count my tips) re-post the invoice, and pay it. It bothered me too until I asked around and then I got over it. I love gnucash because it allows me to 'fix' or 'redo' or

[GNC] Accounts Receivable: How do I handle a Tip?

2024-04-09 Thread Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user
I just completed a job for a satisfied customer. Very satisfied; he voluntarily paid $50 over and above the invoiced amount and told me to keep it as a tip. Now, how do I account for that? I'm very leery about hand editing anything to do with the AP and AR systems; there's a caution against

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2024-04-09 01:19, David Carlson wrote: > Nearly every time [the bank's] list doesn't match my list, the > difference is precisely the difference between when I wrote the check or > when I initiated a payment online or when I swiped a card and when they > posted the transaction to my account.

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Gyle McCollam
1st, that is not the difference between accrual basis accounting vs cash basis. However, for your personal books if you want to use the bank dates it doesn't really matter. Legally, once you send the payment whether direct debit or snail mail or swipe your credit card, you have paid/spent the

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread Kalpesh Patel
In the states, isn't that what is called "floats"? -Original Message- From: Liz Sent: Monday, April 08, 2024 6:50 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date) On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 17:11:37 -0500 R Losey wrote: > Since I first learned about recording

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread David Carlson
I decided to report here why I think it is "ok" to import the transaction list from a bank and to accept their "Posted Dates." When I perform the import operation I am using that tool to reconcile their record to an imaginary list in my head representing what I would have written in my checkbook.

Re: [GNC] Recording transactions (date)

2024-04-09 Thread G R Hewitt
I always put the date the transaction took place, both for my personal accounts and when I was working in accounts. Same went for invoices, credits etc., the date on the document was the date that was input. To my mind, to do otherwise would do nothing but lead to confusion. On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 at

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Hello, Robert, and welcome to GnuCash: On 2024-04-08 22:03, Robert Dew wrote: I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, or would I need to install a separate version

Re: [GNC] I'm looking at installing GnuCash but has a couple of questions first

2024-04-09 Thread Liz
On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 17:03:53 +1200 "Robert Dew" wrote: > I have a a number of small, separate, but interconnected companies > that I'd like to have separate accounting systems for. > > Does GnuCash allow for multiple businesses, Yes > or would I need to > install a separate version for each