Re: F29: Thunderbird is in English and not in my language

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM Antonio M wrote: > I updated my F28 and Thunderbird switched from Italian to English. > Just a note, I suppose that I have to re-install the Italian language > pack... > try dnf install langpacks-it > Antonio Montagnani > > Linux Fedora 28 Workstation >

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

Hi, I use usb 3 sticks since years for running Fedora - OS on the sticks (32GB). By the time, may be in about 1 year the USB stick becomes slow and slower, because it's not made for OS's, it's more and more damaged, then I use the sticks for films and fotos, where slow is no problem. On

Re: Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

On 10/30/2018 09:44 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/30/2018 08:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 11:47 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM

Re: Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

On 10/30/2018 08:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 11:47 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat for $34 Billion? Oh, please! Let's not

Re: Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

Noted with thanks. Exiting this thread. From: Ed Greshko Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:50 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion? On

Re: Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

On 10/31/18 11:47 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), > CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat > for $34 Billion? Oh, please! Let's not go on and start another thread of useless

Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

Good morning from Singapore, This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat for $34 Billion? ===BEGIN SIGNATURE=== Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 30 Oct

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

On 10/30/18 6:59 PM, Ken Smith wrote: Anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

On 10/30/18 6:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance?

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. There's > nothing magical about the hardware anymore. There's no "IWM" chip in > them. They're just laptops, which is why Linux will run on them. Ahh they're able to run Linux

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

Anaconda On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:58 PM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi All, > > I keep forgetting the name of Fedora's OS installer > (not the program installer). > > Many thanks, > -T > ___ > users mailing list --

F28: internet essentially disconnects after a short while

Hi, Recently, as of last week, I installed Fedora 28 on a new XPS 13. I went with Openbox window manager and no desktop environment because that is what I feel gives me the most bang for my buck. If I am behind the times, feel free to correct me but that is not the issue here. Anyway,

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

anaconda? On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 18:06:09 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I keep forgetting the name of Fedora's OS installer > (not the program installer). > > Many thanks, > -T > ___ > users mailing list --

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > FC28, x86 > Xfce 4.12 > > I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over > to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And > this is typical. > > Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope [egreshko@meimei ~]$

what is the name of the os installer?

Hi All, I keep forgetting the name of Fedora's OS installer (not the program installer). Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 3:49 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/2018 07:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 10/30/18 4:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: but Apple hardware takes the cake. Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. I wasn't referring to the internals. I was referring to their weird mice and keyboards. I hate their keyboards. I am a buckling spring guy. (I have

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for >> the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx >> I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage.

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage. Tip on OSx, carry your own mouse and a Live Fedora Stick.

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:47 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge already

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T Extra info. "dd" goes like the wind.

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But > they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge already about office(s) and browsers, those skills

Is your USB3 slow?

Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T ___ users mailing list --

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:15 PM, jdow wrote: Not superior in many cases in the most important criterion of all. Does it run the software you need to use? There are times the answer to that question is a simple "no and likely won't for quite some time to come." If you are a serious user then you pick the OS 

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

On 10/31/18 5:36 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 30/10/18 1:14 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/30/18 6:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> This test may not be valid in your environment.  What O/S is running on the >>> server side? >> FWIW, I have a Windows 10 VM that I've resurrected.  I shared a folder

F29: Thunderbird is in English and not in my language

I updated my F28 and Thunderbird switched from Italian to English. Just a note, I suppose that I have to re-install the Italian language pack... Antonio Montagnani Linux Fedora 28 Workstation da/from Gmail ___ users mailing list --

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 20181030 14:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum.  Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really???  guess it depends on what yo

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum. Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you consider "better"... I am IT support to small

Re: Networkmanager Wait Online Failing at Boot Time

On 30/10/18 1:14 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/30/18 6:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: This test may not be valid in your environment.  What O/S is running on the server side? FWIW, I have a Windows 10 VM that I've resurrected.  I shared a folder and used the same format entry in the fstab. It

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 1:37 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:33 PM Rick Stevens > wrote: > > > Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist? > > > You can still buy S/390's, but the big money is not in mainframes, but > in supercomputers. It used to

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

sooo... all left leaning dems... all we want is to have the gubment do everything.. while we just suck off dat gov cheeze?? good lord dude.. what/where did you sprout from??? and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

Yep, just had that conversation with somebody else the other day and said the same thing, we're stuck with it now. --- Regards, Kevin Martin On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:18 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/30/18 10:00 AM, kevin martin wrote: > > Yeah, love the way systemd names interaces

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:47 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Now we're really getting OT. I lived in Venezuela for over 30 years and > think I know more about the situation there than pretty much anyone > else on this list. I do NOT want to discuss it here. > > I suggest this thread stay on topic

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:33 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > > Do big IBM (or any) mainframes still exist? > You can still buy S/390's, but the big money is not in mainframes, but in supercomputers. It used to be (in the days of Seymour Cray) that a supercomputer just had a really fast processor that

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Please move the politics to some other forum. kevin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/2018 12:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what might be coming in RHEL/Centos Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d agreed

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 12:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what might be coming in RHEL/Centos Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d It is beyond me how

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > ToddAndMargo: > > Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what > might be coming in RHEL/Centos > > Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental),

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:14 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Guys, this is NOT a political forum. Please stop trying to compare capitalism and communism and socialism here. It's not appropriate subject matter for this list. Take it to a political forum somewhere else. Rick is correct. If anyone wishes to

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/30/18 10:55 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:43:36 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I have a customer (actually she is a great grand mother) who wants me "specifically" to put her together a cheap machine to only play Freecell. No internet, no printing, no sound.

Re: Bulk preparation of LiveUSBs or installed to a USB drive

On 10/29/18 11:31 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: I have to prepare hundreds of USB sticks which need to either papre as a liveUSB or make it as a installed system (using the USB as the storage when installing fedora). If you must run the system from USB, then do it as an installed system. The

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:34 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:57:19AM +, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi Fred and all, Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't mandatory, as

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct

Re: Bulk preparation of LiveUSBs or installed to a USB drive

On 10/30/18 10:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Send the sticks out, give instructions for the proper way to run the kickstart (it's not that difficult, just some extra typing they need to do at the boot prompt), then let the USB stick and kickstart install the system to their local hard drive. No

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:40 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi ToddandMargo, I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: First:  Venezuela is not socialist.  Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. They are trying to be

Re: Bulk preparation of LiveUSBs or installed to a USB drive

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:28 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/29/18 9:40 PM, Danishka Navin wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > > > Thanks for your quick response. > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:26 AM Rick Stevens > > wrote: > > > > On 10/29/18 11:31 AM, Danishka Navin

Re: F28 server boots to the grub prompt even after dnf update and grub2-mkconfig

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:28:36 -0600 linux guy wrote: > I have an up to date F28 server that boots to the grub prompt. This > started after a failed dnf update. > > The computer will boot to an emergency mode command prompt if I set > it up properly from the grub prompt. > > grub> set

Re: I need granny games!

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:43:36 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a customer (actually she is a great grand mother) who wants me > "specifically" to put her together a cheap machine to only play > Freecell. No internet, no printing, no sound. > So Xfce, Fedora, and K

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On 10/31/18 12:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > OK. I didn't get the memo. Was there anything on the Announce list (or > this one)? One the Announce List, yes. -- Cardinal Rule of Presentations: "Tell them what you are going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them."

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 16:42 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 22:07 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 10/30/18 9:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 13:41 +0100, Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > > Does anybody have a clue what to try? > > > > > > F29 is

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:41:50 +0100 Jiri Vanek wrote: I'm not familiar with hdmi, but I'll try to give you some ideas. > I have f29 (ernel kernel-4.18.12-300.fc29 ) on machine, which is > changing its place from time to time - between two TVs. Old, and > older:) > > Both are connected by

F28 server boots to the grub prompt even after dnf update and grub2-mkconfig

I have an up to date F28 server that boots to the grub prompt. This started after a failed dnf update. The computer will boot to an emergency mode command prompt if I set it up properly from the grub prompt. grub> set root=(lvm/fedora-root) grub> linuxefi (hd0,gpt2)/vmlinuz-0-rescue...

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

On 10/30/18 10:00 AM, kevin martin wrote: > Yeah, love the way systemd names interaces nowadays...bleah!] Systemd does NOT name interfaces. That's the job of udev and the new, bus-based names happened before the adoption of systemd. I'm not a lover of systemd. I consider it to be a solution in

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:27 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: >> We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company). >> They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to >> put up with it, or go to one of the small number

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> >> On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM

Re: Bulk preparation of LiveUSBs or installed to a USB drive

On 10/29/18 9:40 PM, Danishka Navin wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Thanks for your quick response. > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:26 AM Rick Stevens > wrote: > > On 10/29/18 11:31 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: > > Hi, > > I have to prepare hundreds of USB sticks

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

Yeah, love the way systemd names interaces nowadays...bleah! --- Regards, Kevin Martin On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:58 AM linux guy wrote: > I found the Ethernet interface name in /sys/class/net In my case it was > enp3s0 > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:47 AM linux guy wrote: > >> >>

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

on the version of fedora you are on, "ip addr" should show your interfaces and this, I think, would be the only way to bring up an interface with NetworkManager down (and actually, in this day and age you should probably use " ip address add dev " instead of ifconfig (so something like "ip

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 22:07 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/30/18 9:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 13:41 +0100, Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > Does anybody have a clue what to try? > > > > F29 is unreleased. Try the Fedora Test list. > > You can't say that any longer >

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

Once I found the device name, I enabled it by using ifup enp3s0. And it worked. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

I found the Ethernet interface name in /sys/class/net In my case it was enp3s0 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 9:47 AM linux guy wrote: > > Thanks > > Does this work if the machine uses networkmanager ? FWIW, NM isn't > running when at the emergency mode prompt. > > Where does one get a list of

Re: Starting network services from emergency mode command prompt ?

Thanks Does this work if the machine uses networkmanager ? FWIW, NM isn't running when at the emergency mode prompt. Where does one get a list of the available interfaces ? /dev or somewhere else ? ___ users mailing list --

Re: fetchmail and Fedora 29

On 10/30/18 10:25 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:07:18 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I noticed that sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 29 --best --allowerasing >> >> takes out fetchmail. I depend on it and like it a lot. Is it being removed >> on Fedora? What are the

Re: fetchmail and Fedora 29

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:23:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/30/18 10:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I noticed that sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 29 --best --allowerasing > > > > takes out fetchmail. I depend on it and like it a lot. Is it being removed > > on Fedora? What are the

Re: fetchmail and Fedora 29

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:07:18 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 29 --best --allowerasing > > takes out fetchmail. I depend on it and like it a lot. Is it being removed on > Fedora? What are the alternatives? Sorry to answer my own post: it is

Re: fetchmail and Fedora 29

On 10/30/18 10:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 29 --best --allowerasing > > takes out fetchmail. I depend on it and like it a lot. Is it being removed on > Fedora? What are the alternatives? > It may be a "dependency" issue. I have a

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On 10/30/18 10:03 PM, Jiri Vanek wrote: > Well I doubt a bit it is a regression from f28. And I doubt unrelease-ness > have nothing to do with > it - as it is, will be released in a week:) It was released today! -- Cardinal Rule of Presentations: "Tell them what you are going to tell them,

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On 10/30/18 9:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 13:41 +0100, Jiri Vanek wrote: >> Does anybody have a clue what to try? > F29 is unreleased. Try the Fedora Test list. You can't say that any longer https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29/ -- Cardinal Rule of

fetchmail and Fedora 29

Hi, I noticed that sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 29 --best --allowerasing takes out fetchmail. I depend on it and like it a lot. Is it being removed on Fedora? What are the alternatives? Many thanks, Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On 10/30/18 2:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 13:41 +0100, Jiri Vanek wrote: >> Does anybody have a clue what to try? > > F29 is unreleased. Try the Fedora Test list. Hi! Thanx. Will repost. Well I doubt a bit it is a regression from f28. And I doubt unrelease-ness

Re: no hdmi audio on older tv

On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 13:41 +0100, Jiri Vanek wrote: > Does anybody have a clue what to try? F29 is unreleased. Try the Fedora Test list. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

no hdmi audio on older tv

Hello! I have f29 (ernel kernel-4.18.12-300.fc29 ) on machine, which is changing its place from time to time - between two TVs. Old, and older:) Both are connected by HDMI. Video output is fine, even acceleration is working, but sound work only on newer of those two. I don't know if this

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:57:19AM +, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: >Hi Fred and all, >Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, >there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't >mandatory, as ToddandMargo said, if you don't want

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Hi Fred and all, Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't mandatory, as ToddandMargo said, if you don't want them simply turn them off. Last but not least, why do you need to reinstall? Upgrading

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Hi ToddandMargo, I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: First: Venezuela is not socialist. Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. If you want to point to a communist government, there is North Korea (that

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 1:36 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: Heartbroken? No improvement ever without change, (although not every change lead to improvement.) Sometimes purchases/buy-outs works out fine. Like the purchase of StarOffice by SUN-Microsystems. I admit, the world of Open Source does has

RE: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

Heartbroken? No improvement ever without change, (although not every change lead to improvement.) Sometimes purchases/buy-outs works out fine. Like the purchase of StarOffice by SUN-Microsystems. I admit, the world of Open Source does has victims, sometimes not caused by corporate-management

WAY OFF TOPIC ( Was: OT: IBM to buy RedHat)

Everybody know now, that IBM is about buy RedHat. So, let's see what happens. Just leave this cap vs sos discussion to political forums, right? Jarmo ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company). They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to put up with it, or go to one of the small number of highly similar competitors. So, no, market forces don't

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux every six months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional reboot. People with many computers can't spend