Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and female vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Dang. I get nuthin' of the sort over at the Faux Press. Interesting that these wackos search out feminist, eros accepting, political bloggers. Grrr. Jan On 5/1/07, humdrum9871 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that it is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and female vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Way, way back when CompuServe still mattered, I hung out there providing a company presence in a couple of technical forums. Once a guy invited me for a private chat, I assumed because he had a technical question. Then he immediately wrote I can suck my own cock. I was so startled I simply dumped

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and female vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Michael Verdi
My quick observations: When Dylan got a lot of publicity she also got a handful of the worst threatening and explicit comments. We just deleted them and went on with life. Once the publicity stopped, so did the comments. As a man, I've never had threatening comments on my blog. I did however get

[videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread pdelongchamp
Hey group, The results of the Mmeiser’s Wikipedia ban are here. See what each Wikipedia Administrator had to say about it: “I fail to see why there should be any consideration of a ban. Unreferenced material is not welcome on Wikipedia.” - EdJohnston

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers (plain text version)

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
Hey group, The results are back from Mmeiser's proposed Wikipedia ban of pdelongchamp. See what each Wikipedia Administrator had to say about it: I fail to see why there should be any consideration of a ban. Unreferenced material is not welcome on Wikipedia. - EdJohnston 23:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers (plain text version)

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
Spamming the list replying in a different thread? David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey group, The results are back from Mmeiser's proposed Wikipedia ban of pdelongchamp. See what each Wikipedia

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Michael Verdi
On 5/3/07, pdelongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and now ladies and gentlemen, ...your moment of zen. (please accept this as humour with only a tinge of bitterness) This user - Pdelongchamp - constantly fucks with the entry. [...] It's pathetic. I can't believe Meiser still has the

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
Hey Mike, I didn't mean for it to seam like you were threatening me. Sorry. It was just meant as a lighthearted reflection of the topics currently being discussed in the group. pd On 5/3/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/07, pdelongchamp [EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Michael Verdi
Patrick, the deal is that many of us don't think of this as lighthearted. You've fucked with the wikipedia article for almost a year now. It's time to stop. - Verdi On 5/3/07, Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mike, I didn't mean for it to seam like you were threatening me.

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Markus Sandy
HI Patrick, When I saw your initial post, I thought why is he posting in the wrong thread? and then I looked more carefully and got your joke. When you posted the text version, I thought is he now spamming? But I assume you have a different default char set than me and hence the funny

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread sull
Markus, Meet Pat and his condo. http://mirror21.video.blip.tv/RenovatingMichael-EpisodeSixPatsCondo951.mov On 5/3/07, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI Patrick, When I saw your initial post, I thought why is he posting in the wrong thread? and then I looked more carefully and got

[videoblogging] My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Gang, I've had some complaints from my viewers that the .m4v files we generate for distribution on iTunes are not compatible with video iPods. We're finding this horribly confusing because we generate them with Quicktime using the Movie to iPod exporter. Could I trouble someone to pull up

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
Hi Markus, I don't have a vlog anymore but I used to do cookingkittycorner.blogspot.com As you can see from the results from the ban attempt, I have in fact been trying to stick up for the vlog article. It was changes i made to the article nearly a year ago that saved it from getting deleted. (

[videoblogging] Hi. Looking for Joost invites.

2007-05-03 Thread Erick Papadakis
Hi there, greetings from sunny London. I've just joined and quite enjoy the discussions going on here. I just wonder if this community is likely to have Joost invites -- if so, it'd be great if you could spare me one? Thanks!

[videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
That is indeed horribly confusing because m4v's created by quicktime ipod export option should always play. I just tried episode 6 on my ipod and it transferred and played fine. So I dunno, got any detail on what the people with a problem are experiencing? Plays o in itunes but wont transfer to

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Josh Leo
So who wants to go through the 3 vlogging books written by this community and then jsut cite them in the wikipedia entry. isnt that all we have to do? I am sure that they devine vlog in there along with some od the genres etc right? where are all those academic papers folks have written? arent

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Markus Sandy
thanks sull! that really helped. I think I've met Patrick and friends briefly at Vloggercon06? Puts this in a slightly different light for me. Now you are not a total stranger. See how a little video can change your perspective? Amazing. Not sure it helps with the general argument in any

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and female vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread ryanne hodson
i occasionally get some rude ones and by occasionally i mean once in a blue moon but never anything that i feel threatened by. i'm just glad i don't post on youtube there are some women on there who get trashed, for just talking about life to the camera and from what i can tell, you can't

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Enric
Wikipedia for credibility and to compete with established encyclopedias like Encyclopaedia Britannica, requires citation from authoritative sources. This is usually established media sources like New York Times, Time Magazine, ABC News, etc. People working on new developments on the net like

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Enric
Very useful approach. When I find time, I'll do that. -- Enric -==- http://cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who wants to go through the 3 vlogging books written by this community and then jsut cite them in the wikipedia entry.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
I apologize for the formatting. Allow me to post this here as well rather than just in an email to Patrick Delongchamp. Patrick. Quit fucking emailing me you nutjob. David Howell to Patrick show details 12:36 pm (3 minutes ago) You fucking nutcase. I did not try to vote

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
I apologize. I just wrote this reply to David Howell and I want to extend it to David Meade. Ugh. This has not been a great week. I'm genuinely sorry guys. pat -- Forwarded message -- From: Patrick Delongchamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 3, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Vlog

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Thanks for a little sanity checking, Steve. I really will need to follow up with the user in specific and see what's going on, because we've been pretty sure that, at least for the recent episodes, things were fine. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Charles Hope
Crossing a line? There are 1 articles on Wikipedia with unsourced statements, and you've spent the last year obsessively purging a single one of them, while gaming the social system there and building a clan to defend against any potential challenges. What's a little heated language for such

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread Brook Hinton
Looking at episode 6, it's a little over the data rate limit for 320 x 240 ipod video. But since it came out of the quicktime ipod preset, I have to assume that its low-complexity baseline profile, which theoretically means it COULD play fine on ipods that have current firmware allowing them to

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh come off it! As far as Im concerned you've dug your own hole by not making your case properly. Why havent you provided the info the wikipedia admins asked for? Im glad that attempts to harness the mob without careful consideration and better, less emotional, stating of your case, have failed.

[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog Wikipedia Entry

2007-05-03 Thread Nick Schmidt
So does this mean I should post on Wiki bout my article in the Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/PA2VJBNA4R/article/SB115983680201080700-search.ht\ ml?KEYWORDS=nick+schmidtCOLLECTION=wsjie/6month . It is a creditable source, but in order for you to view the article you have to be a

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and female vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Nick Schmidt
I read this article today too. Well I get comments from my videos and etc.. They are trying to stir something up ..it sucks to get those comments, but I try not to let it bother me, and I don't respond back.. so I just delete the comments.. then done.. nick

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Let me clarify a little. When this issue was posted here, I wsnted to learn more, I wanted the question marks to disappear, so I could form my own opinion bout whether Pat is a troll or whether people have the wrong idea about wikipedia, or a subtle blend of the 2. I got plenty of posts from

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Ive read it till Im blue in the face. Its clear Pat has made a lot of edits, but Im still waiting for someone to post a specific example of his behaviour at its worst. Lets stop being vague, show me some specific info that he deleted, that he wasnt right to do so. Because when I try to spend

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread missbhavens1969
Crossing the line? Gee...Y'think? Well, since we've descended into the pit of juvenile name calling, I'd like to say that after the close following of these wikipedia/videoblogging threads I've come to the conclusion that a certain someone has a Teeny. Weenie. Peenie. Kisses, Bekah (I couldn't

[videoblogging] Re: Video Blog Wikipedia Entry

2007-05-03 Thread Nick Schmidt
I can see that they are highly discouraged, because you have to pay money to view the source...not everyone can view them..and the list goes on.. but they are still HIGHLY creditable...LOL .. so why can't I put them?? what do you mean check it out? They are creditable...done. Check and done.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
No original research? Why not? Why use new media to define new media with a requirement that the validation come from old media. That's just plain asinine. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive read it till Im

[videoblogging] A nice soothing, relaxing cup of tea

2007-05-03 Thread Rupert Howe
I unsubscribed a couple of days ago for a breather. I've always tried to be cautious of heated discussions in groups because they're so seductive - soon you're caught up in the lynch mob feeling and writing stuff you regret later, which is what happened to me this time. Also, I'm quarantined and

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
She's right. It's pretty mini. On 5/3/07, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crossing the line? Gee...Y'think? Well, since we've descended into the pit of juvenile name calling, I'd like to say that after the close following of these wikipedia/videoblogging threads I've come to the

[videoblogging] Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread Jay dedman
Okayif you care about the wikipedia article on Videoblogging, lets take all the conversation to that site. Ive jumped in here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Video_blog#Removed_section:_Dispute_over_terminology Pdelongchamp, since you seem to have a vision for this page, maybe you can

[videoblogging] Re: A nice soothing, relaxing cup of tea

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
I agree with you Rupert. Mike, I am not sure what to say, I could go to the site and vote something and maybe I will but the thing I wonder about is will it matter? Verdi voted and got called a Meat something? what the hell is that? It sounds like to me that there are some serious

Re: [videoblogging] Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread trine bjørkmann berry
i dont know if it's helpful, but I've added my short article on david cameron's videoblog to the wikipedia article. (under all the book entries) - i realise it's not on par with the books in terms of citeability, but it's academic and published in a journal. cheers Trine On 5/3/07, Jay

Re: [videoblogging] Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread Stephanie Bryant
That probably makes it a better source, actually. Academic journals have a much more rigorous review cycle than computer books. On 5/3/07, trine bjørkmann berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont know if it's helpful, but I've added my short article on david cameron's videoblog to the wikipedia

Re: [videoblogging] Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
And thank god for that! Or rather... thank the peer-reviewers, but you know what I mean. Den 03.05.2007 kl. 23:18 skrev Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That probably makes it a better source, actually. Academic journals have a much more rigorous review cycle than computer books. On

[videoblogging] On a different note than Wikipedia...

2007-05-03 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Hey all, I started a new show for CNet last week and we've put up the second episode. http://weknowhow.tv Herein, you will learn how to make quasi-useful stuff from seemingly useless items. Or something like that:) Make Mag was kind enough to write a little piece about us:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Kary Rogers
As someone who's - new, as in, been a member of the list a few months - still trying to figure out many aspects of videoblogging - only exposure to the wiki entry issue has been on this email list this is how is seems to me. People who have defined and shaped videoblogging are the most

[videoblogging] Re: Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
I added my questions there, I have no idea what I am doing but I added my questions Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okayif you care about the wikipedia article on Videoblogging, lets take all the conversation to that

Re: [videoblogging] On a different note than Wikipedia...

2007-05-03 Thread T Shey
I already direct Twittered Schlomo about this, but let me just say for the record I love this show. Video Instructables on Webshots? Brilliant. On 5/3/07, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I started a new show for CNet last week and we've put up the second episode.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
Kary - this is a well thought out and written summaryand it has no place in this flame war (I kid, I play, I joke) Very nice reply Kary Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kary Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who's - new, as in, been a

[videoblogging] Re: Put up or shut up

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
any mistakes will be corrected Of that I have NO doubt! ;-) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool Heath. Its just a wiki, so do what you want. Trust meany mistakes will be corrected. For now, we're using the

[videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread Cheryl
FYI, 640x480 videos do not play on my video iPod. I think maybe it's a generational thing with the iPod. I have the latest version of iTunes. When I plug my iPod in and check for updates, I get the message that my iPod is up to date - so I am not being offered the opportunity to update the

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Great post :) You put it all exceedingly well. Thanks to Jays constructive approach, Ive joined wikipedia and am on the talk page. Im doing a lot more reading before I do any daring edits though. For me, judging by what Ive said here in the last few days, my personal balancing act will be how to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Well, I'm not using 640x480 videos. I generally render my NTSC avi into a 320x240 MOV file first, then transcode the 320x240 MOV into a 320x240 FLV and a 320x240 M4V. Since I'm not allowed to manually set options when I use the movie to iPod export in QT, that would basically mean that QT is

Re: [videoblogging] Feedburberner and my new feed

2007-05-03 Thread Markus Sandy
hi what's you vlog url and the feed url you are giving it? btw, i like Feedburberner On May 3, 2007, at 3:14 PM, amani_c wrote: I'm trying to register my site with Feedburner, but I'm getting this message. The feed address you entered includes an invalid leading or trailing character

Re: [videoblogging] Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread T Shey
A lot of web 2.0 types I know love the Farmer's Daughter. Not too far from AFI (I used to spend a LOT of time there). http://www.farmersdaughterhotel.com/ I'd say consider staying in Hollywood or West Hollywood rather than downtown -- it can make for a bit of a trip in the morning across

[videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
OK Im concluding that all video ipods should be able to be updated to run the same spec files as the current 5.5G ipod. And I looked into the bitrate thing a bit more and I dont think there's anything wrong with your bitrate. The slightly larger bitrate being stated is because that includes the

Re: [videoblogging] Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread T Shey
Forgot to mention -- Erin on our team here at NNN worked at AFI for several years and ran their Digital Content Lab there. I am sure she has a go-to list of places for people to stay -- it's how I found most of the places above. I'll ask her and re-post her recommendations.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: My iPod format is wrong?

2007-05-03 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
You're a research machine, Steve. Thanks. Luckily, the complaining viewer shows up at my parties a lot, so I can just ask him to bring the iPod with him or something and see what the heck is going on. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime OK Im

Re: [videoblogging] Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread tim
Hey T, I was driving by AFI last night and I saw a bus - the Hollywood Dash - dropping people at the corner of Western and Franklin which is where AFI is and the sign on the bus said “25 Cents” So there is public transportation to AFI. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

[videoblogging] Re: Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread David Howell
They won't find your body 'til morning. Not unless we vlog it! *chuckle* Ok...we need to find a common place to stay. This is my first vlog event and I am so excited to meet people :) David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread Brook Hinton
The Farmer's Daughter was a great cheap sleep years ago - my favorite place to stay in LA. But it looks like its been renovated, as have the prices - if not for the address I'd barely recognize it from the web site. The new version appears charming but it may not be the economical oasis it once

[videoblogging] Vlogumentary (don't sue me Chuck Olsen)

2007-05-03 Thread Michael Verdi
Maybe this is crazy but I feel like this whole Wikipedia thing has turned back time 3 years or something. Here we are trying to figure out what the rules are; what we're allowed to say; what will pass the litmus test. Oh the irony! I can't take it anymore. The idea of making a videoblogging piece

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Mike Meiser
FYi... I've *started* to back up the request for temporary banning of pdelongchamp on the vb article on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard#Evidence_against_Pdelongchamp That's the full url, for some reason tiny urls don't support a names and the

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Well I wasnt happy to see this group and things said in it being used as evidence by both sides to argue their case, should have stuck to the actual wikipedia issues. Anyway the call for a ban has now been removed, I believe it was considered to be a personal dispute and the wrong thing was being

[videoblogging] Re: Vlogumentary (don't sue me Chuck Olsen)

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
cool verdi.once again trying to find a solutionthat's why I like you... Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this is crazy but I feel like this whole Wikipedia thing has turned back time 3 years or something.

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Heath
Published BOOKS about videoblogging should not be included? What does it matter if the auther added them or not? They are published booksif that isn't relevant then I don't know what is. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
Well again bear in mind thats just one persons opinion, but they werent saying such books should not be included. They were saying its not a good idea for people to be adding their own books to wikipedia, probably because it has the potential to threaten the neutral aims of wikipedia, or lead to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread Jay dedman
Trust me, you don't want to make that walk even during the daytime. Cars are whipping around from Los Feliz Blvd. to Franklin Western at a high rate of speed. The last two L.A. Dash buses are 8:08 and 8:45pm. You can hop on the Metro #2 or #210 but that will still only get you to

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Pixelodeon attendees

2007-05-03 Thread Jay dedman
Ok...we need to find a common place to stay. This is my first vlog event and I am so excited to meet people :) I'm on it. I may need to weekend to nail it down though. It'll be great to see everyone who comes out. Like at Vloggerconall vlogger will get in. I'll guarantee a place to stay

[videoblogging] Re: Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Steve Watkins
OK I mus stop posting here on this topic soon, but just to clarify how different the detail of wikipedia guidelines can be compared to the short version. The following is from the conflict of interest page I just linked to ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest ) , and I

Re: [videoblogging] Threats and male vloggers

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick Delongchamp
That's a great idea. If some who owns any of the books wants to add something, you can source it by including the code below at the end of the information you're introducing. For example: It is common knowledge that Videobloggers do it daily.ref{{cite book |coauthors= Michael Verdi, Ryanne

[videoblogging] Gardenfork.tv: new episode with appleTV settings

2007-05-03 Thread eric gunnar rochow
I just loaded Roasted Garlic Soup, encoded with Compressor with the new apple settings that Waz of crashtestkitchen.com sent me. please check it out, esp. if you have an appleTV box. thanks, eric . GF iTunes : http://tinyurl.com/yo98ll eric gunnar rochow http://gardenfork.tv

[videoblogging] New Treo Myspace VideoCast

2007-05-03 Thread JOHNNIE WARNER
Hey Everybody - , Just wanted to get some feed back on my latest videocast and see what you'll (forgive my accent i'm from texas)think. Thanks again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLTORprbjQs (youtube) http://oneinthehand.blogspot.com/2007/04/myspace-picture- jacking.html#links (blogger)