I am surprised that no one seems to have encountered this notice while
exploring videos on YouTube. I sent it to myself as an email:
Subject: YOU TUBE DISCOURAGES COMMENTS!!
You have recently posted several comments.
Please wait some time before posting another.
I haven't counted the number of
Randy, I'd love to have a copy of that email! Heh heh...
And bless you for leaving comments. You warm my heart, since that's
what we really try to be about. In fact, when considering how to
rate content on CrowdAbout, we considered doing a thumbs up or down
approach, or a 5-star ratings
Cheers. I think I still use the hammer too much myself, even though I
have other tools available!
Youtube was not the obvious candidate in my mind when talking about
video conversations here in the past, but as they have a critical mass
of users, and at some point added the video responses
Carter (I think) said:
But if I want to have conversations using video content as the
starting point, I wouldn't think of YouTube.
Help me out here - why is it an either/or thing with using Youtube for
conversations? I'm not getting that. Because Youtube works basically the
same as any other
David,
Steve W. pointed out a thread from last summer (also initiated by Peter).
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/47091
It doesnt have to be an either/or scenario. Though it certainly can be for
some.
I have always said to use the YouTubesque services to your benefit if
I think the key is that what Carter was talking about (i'm putting
words in his mouth here) was choosing a model for conversations
between people, and I guess he particularly mentioned video
comments. Looking at the way they do it in crowdabout, as a back
forth thing, with audio video
Well, this is a personal preference, I guess. I like quiet
restaurants when looking for a meeting place to discuss business or
more personal areas of life with old fiends (or new ones). But give
me a noisy bar any day when all I want to do is watch the game or be
left alone.
YouTube is a public
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway I would like to think that there'd have been more people
joining in this conversation if it were happenign a year or 2 ago, I
dunoo, it seems harder to have a long conversation about what features
people
Rupert, you took the words right out of my mouth. You really get this
thing we're doing, don't you? I'm honored and humbled, because I'm
not entirely sure that we've been explaining it all that well up to
now... If ever our paths cross in the real world (whatever THAT means
anymore ;-) I'm
Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives?
A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube.
Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum - bing!)
It's funny, as we like to say in comedy, because it's true.
Just some food for thought.
Cheers
On Mar 6, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Mark Day wrote:
Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives?
A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube.
Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum -
bing!)
It's funny, as we like to say in comedy,
When I talk to libraries about videoblogging and how libraries can use video
on their websites, I tell them the YouTube is great and easy - but they need
to decide one little thing. Do they want users to watch just online, or do
they want users to download video and take it with them? It's a big
I don't think it's true. The thing about comedians is, they always
generalise about everything. ;-)
People here (like me recently) have complained about YouTube's
interface and methods, but never on the people creating content.
I've not read anyone here express disdain for anyone posting
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mark Day [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Q: Why are videobloggers like mainstream media executives?
A: They both look down on people who post videos on YouTube.
Actually, that's unfair. To mainstream media executives (ba - dum -
bing!)
It's funny, as we
There was some talk in this group about youtuber's that I thought was
a bit snobbish a while ago, because it made me rant, but it was
probably only mild and it can be hard to seperate criticism of the
service with those using it sometimes.
But on a certain level I would not be surprised if the
Agreed, Rupert.
Bottom line for me is, I think YouTube UI sucks. I think YouTube has always
had many bugs and poor workflow.
I think YouTube's terms suck. I think YouTube users who dont post but just
comment with filth suck. I think YouTube appreciation for its content
contributors has sucked
Actually, I'd admit, I raged on YouTube back in the day when it opened on this
list, and
have had a change of opinion seeing how the market responded... Videoblogging
Yahoo
Group, circa probably, what, early 2005? My account is from June and I was a
bit late to
the YT party then, since their
Here are the good things about YouTube; They've brought self-video
publishing to the masses--literally, by making it dead simple to
post video to the web. They made it easy to share (but not remix
unfortunately) videos we love with embed codes. They've done a lot
of this in a social way, with
To be honest whenever I try searching the group archive I usually find
reasonable debate about these things, rarely stumble on the
hating/disparaging remarks that I seem to remember. So for all I know
there were only ever a small handful of such posts made, but this got
merged with widespread
Well, Eric, like you say, you raged on YouTube... but that's
different from the users, isn't it...? which was what the original
question was about.
i think you're maybe right about the tone of discussions here some of
the time. I'm not a bay area guy, or even an authority on anything,
I was, of course, generalizing to make a point about generalization.
And I do think it's true to say that the minute the subject of YouTube
comes up, it seems to turn some people into the videoblogging
equivalent of Republican senators talking about the internets.
I will return to this topic and
Totally offtopic kinda, but were you here for the great and mighty EL Woody and
Cheryl
Shuman incidents? That was some prime time stuff. :D
ER
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, Eric, like you say, you raged on YouTube... but that's
different from
Steve,
Great observations, especially the fact that we are each experts in
finding differences.
I'm sure you've heard the phrase, If the only tool you have in your
kit is a hammer, every problem you encounter starts to look like a nail.
As someone spending a great deal of time thinking about how
OMG yes. :D That was back when I was just a lurker. Now, for some
reason, I can't stop writing long rambling posts - I've got to slow
it down and do some work before I become the next Cheryl Shuman (The
One And Only).
I just Googled her to see where she is now. Weirdly, she just posted
Elbows's link to the old discussion on YouTube brought up something
I've wanted to ask for a while.
It seems to me, looking around a lot of vlogs, that there are less
comments than there used to be. Is this a recognised thing in the
blogosphere or vlogosphere? Have other people noticed
Interesting observation.
I don't notice any change. But then again I always got about two
comments a week. :)
But I'd like to hear from a few vloggers who get more comments. Who
are posting about the same amount of videos as they did a year or two
ago.
The community has changed, it's gotten a
Ease of use, maybe? Setting up a podcast, audio or video, is just irritating,
becasue
everyone has some different angle on how to do it. There's something to be said
for a
format. Yeah, we can argue about individuality and wanting something better
until the
cows come home. Also, the
Hi Eric,
At the risk of repeating myself, I agree that the strength of YouTube
is to have a place where you can have an audience and be seen. I
also agree that that has the potential for great power. And I'm not
rejecting YouTube on principle, or because I'm particularly
ideologically
Carter,
I really like what you guys are doing with crowdabout.us.
Have you thought about separating Author comments from user
comments, so that we can add links and extra description to stuff
that's happening, as it happens - and mark this as different from the
user comments - it might
On 3/5/07, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ease of use, maybe? Setting up a podcast, audio or video, is just
irritating, becasue
everyone has some different angle on how to do it. There's something to be
said for a
format. Yeah, we can argue about individuality and wanting something
On 3/5/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carter,
I really like what you guys are doing with crowdabout.us.
Who's you guys. I've never heard about crowdabout.us until just now.
I immeidately like it if only for the title which tells me they're on topic.
It says to me getting up on the
The part that fascinates is how so many people willingly submit to that
competitive
machine is all. Today's youth and all. Heh.
Oh, and I never published muched to Everyday Films, in fact, I haven't vlogged
in half a
year, nor done a podcast. So most feeds aside from blog are dead (it's all a
Absolutely, the reason I look at it as personal, micro, and mass is the because
of the
tiresome, endless quibbling and judgements on What Is The Holy Right Way To
Vlog (the
thread that NEVER DIES and comes up every so often).
Mass = all the same ol same ol
Personal = vloggy, personal
Micro =
I think it is just from the mass popularity. maximum exposure. I have
receive most of my contacts from youtube and I have the smallest # of
video views there than anywhere else. And if I want to delete my
videos someday from there I can, because I like having copyrights of
my videos.
Nick
Great ramble, Mike, great post. Really enjoyed it. Keep rambling.
Rupert
On 5 Mar 2007, at 12:22, Mike Meiser wrote:
On 3/5/07, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ease of use, maybe? Setting up a podcast, audio or video, is just
irritating, becasue
everyone has some different angle on
I don't think it's too mysterious why so many people 'willingly submit
to that competitive machine'.
If you look at the YouTube bigwigs, none of them are popular IRL.
None of them are going to walk into a room and have people wonder who
is that guy? or who is that chick?. I'm not talking about
Carter, who joined the group very recently.
This thread is what started the discussion on crowdabout:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/57450
Anyway i hope such stuff gets used a lot. I guess it might take a
while for people to get used to video comments, its the sort of
Rupert, thanks for your comments about CrowdAbout! I appreciate your
ideas as well. For now, each post and comment identifies who
contributed it by the username, so it's pretty easy to follow a thread
and see who said what.
Interesting thoughts on the clickable video feature. We talked about
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/5/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carter,
I really like what you guys are doing with crowdabout.us.
Who's you guys. I've never heard about crowdabout.us until just now.
Yeah, we are waaay too
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Eric Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm doing a new show, I'm getting paid to vlog, it's pretty sweet.
But honestly, it's on a
topic that has a wide appeal, no matter how punky hippie I make it.
I have to be mentally
prepared to face the legions head on,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Peter Van Dijck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've always been interested in why young people prefer to post on
youtube myspace versus on their own (video)blog (for the comments of
course!) - in this group we seem to think having your own vlog is much
I think the answer is simple.
It's a bunch of videographers... they have their own video sites.
If this was a photographers group we'd have our own photo sites.
Youtube is fun as is flickr... but when you're really serious about
something you need more control and freedom.
Can you put ads on
Rupert, you nailed it. I have put videos up on YouTube in hopes of
attracting traffic to my vlog, but did it work? Heck no! I even got
a respectable 60,000+ views on one video in YouTube, but it
contributed approximately 5 or 6 new visits to my vlog. That's it.
In a nutshell, YouTube is
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