>For the 'techno-purists' amongst us Moby will never be real. > For others who aren't so purist-like really don't care that much. >
I was simply waiting for that to be stated, and I apologize now for the length, this field is a passion of mine, and I enjoy testing new theories in debate... Anyways, I got into this on the Axis site during the drum talk. I truly feel that there is not a measurable difference between the quality of say Moby vs.. Paul Mac, both are pretty much on the same plain as far as over all skill is concerned. But I insist, we all _must_ realize the seeds of argument in which has been circulating for the entire existence of our musics; that we all must realize that there are stark, and rarely recognized differences amongst the listener... "Techno-purists" are into minimal repetition for a reason, the reason being that repetition and minimalism is appealing and more so, comforting, in that there is very little information to interpret. In other words, I think that the "techno-purist" tends to be introverted (very sensitive to environment and stimulation), thus gravitating towards to rawest art, in this case techno... Moby and people like good 'ol Oakie have a tendency to attract the opposite, extroverts (not so sensitive to stimulation), people who need even more input then techno has, they need more than a raw emotion spooned out, they need defined emotion to fell truly satisfied... Ever notice a techno freak listening to a Van Dyke record? The result is often anxiety. Same with a out going socialite listening to Oliver Ho playing locked grooves, their anxious because they're waiting for some defining moment to occur... The magic that techno-purists feel however is something very unique, albeit, not in any way "better". Because of the repetition and raw emotion of techno (as opposed to the defined emotion of say "epic-trance"), the listener/dancer has his/her emotional autonomy _returned_ to them, a first in modern music BTW (as far as I can tell, aside from tribal, correct me if I am wrong), the music needs the listener to be complete, repetition is merely a blue-print in which frames the listeners emotions in a stable platform- without real listeners, repetition is merely that, repetition. The is starkly different from pop music or epic trance in which the listener is fully controlled and told what to feel, it would be difficult to feel real anger during Binary Finary, but no one can truly describe any single set of emotions behind any Rob Hood record because it is unique from listener to listener... I call this music/listener relationship in techno "toneshifting" in that the tendency to a person locked into a groove with techno is to project outwards melody which isn't there, they shift the tone of the track in their head. This again shows the beauty of techno in that each person listening may very well be hearing something entirely different than the person standing next to you... I also propose that this is the fuel behind the earlier experiments of modern art, cubism, abstraction, ect., the artists (who funny enough, tend to be super introverts!!) were trying to return the autonomy back to the viewer, a single block of yellow painted on canvas is pure and undefined, it is raw emotion, nothing else. It is the job of the viewer to project out onto the painting and add the emotional definition, thus making the painting totally unique from one person to the next. This is why it's silly to go to openings like many that I do, and try to "figure out the artists pain" in a picture that simply is a couple of simple shapes, man, its _your_ job to put _your_ "pain" or happiness onto the picture, forget the artist... I drift. To finalize, the debate between Moby and Hood or whatever will never be solved in that they are two entirely different forms of art, despite the use of the same medium. One is entertainment (Moby) one is guidance (techno), and it's your personality type the determines which art you need most for emotional gratification... And last but certainly not least, techno can never be defined because it would require a definition of every Toneshift in every mind and in every ear... sorry about the length, darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
