Meh - I shouldn't have started/continued this conversation as I don;t reallyt have time to express my thoughts fully but:
>> What's wrong with "ex pats" >> anyway? I lived in Amsterdam for two years and that put me in the "ex >> pat" box - it's not a word I'd consider in a negative fashion. >> > > I just don't want to play to ex-pats and the rich mate, we won't play in > Dubai for the same reason, our choice really, we just don't fancy it - it's > no big deal and I wouldn't want to turn it into an issue and I did give my > other reasons and I most definitely can't support any of those. That's a real inverse snobbery vibe from where I'm sitting - "ex pats and their rich friends" has such an air of assumption about it it's just daft. > > We just wouldn't like the vibe but I can take on board that we may be > completely wrong. > >> Of course there are many, many people in China who couldn't afford to >> go to the gig in question - there's plenty of people in Glasgow who >> can't afford to go the the Arches or enjoy the hedonistic club culture >> it embodies but......I don't remember it stopping you playing there >> Martin? > > Have you just compared China with Glasgow! Come on Jason, those are not the > same, not even close. Apples for apples fella ;) The point here is that there are bits of cities in every place in the world where the residents are so poor that "clubbing" wouldn't come onto their radar - daily survival is more important. I'm sure there are places in Sheffield every bit as bad as the worst in Glasgow but that doesn't stop you/me/other people playing there (nor should it in my opinion). > > On the subject of the Arches, I agree with you it does cost too much to get > in and I'd rather play the Sub Club any time of the day but on the last > couple of visits we've usual played somewhere else for less money and with a > lot lower door fees - we just do what we can where we can. I've really grown > to love Glasgow and the vibe there, to me it's better than Berlin and we'd > do what we could to support the scene. Sure - my point isn't an attack on you playing anywhere in particular (or the Arches where I've played myself many times over the years), I was just saying some people can barely afford to put food in their mouths, never mind going to clubs but that shouldn't preclude you from playing anywhere in particular. cheers - sorry if I'm not making myself clear! JB > > m > >