Denise I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really heard what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was about racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. Only 20 minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, but I know this was playing on my mind since reading an article on the mostly unknown involvement of Scottish families in the slave trade, and how Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and honoured those families. It makes you feel sick. I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently about the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation of Scotland by the British army for many many years following the battle of Culloden. Following that were the highland clearances, ordered by land-owners in England. There's a monument to one of them, the Duke of Sutherland, twice an MP in the British Parliament, he later became the British ambassador in Paris. People demand that the statue be removed, or at least moved. In short, it says more about the British involvement in the slave trade at the time, but Scotland is shamed. Ports were not directly used, but they were used in some arrangement which was directly involved with the slave trade. I felt that we had nothing to do with that ugly business. I was born in Glasgow, and my ancestors there were all poor working class families. I think we should be taught this stuff in school. That's all white-washing and as a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise for my own ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I certainly woke with a strong feeling that you could be. Regards
Steve On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are offended. > Read my original statements. I’m confused by your rage. Better yet, > you’re confused by your rage.> > Denise > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <[email protected]> wrote: >> Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and I >> feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions based on >> >50% of the synonyms being a match.>> >> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to >> choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying proper moral >> principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of:>> >> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams >> <[email protected]> wrote:>>> I think it's fine to disagree, even to >> argue, but putting on my 313 >>> List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List Administrator >>> Sceptre, let me say this:>>> >>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over the >>> line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise has >>> strong opinions and you can argue about them all you want, but she >>> is not unscrupulous.>>> >>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it >>> means.">>> >>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi <[email protected]> >>> wrote:>>>> Agreed, >>>> >>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be called >>>> out just as much as actual racist views/comments.>>>> >>>> Next subject? 🤓👊🏿 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM [email protected] >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't part of >>>> our.....discussion about Dixon >>>>> Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :)>>>>> >>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the music..much >>>>> love, massive respect, nuff said>>>>> >>>>> Jason >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck out of the 313 >>>>> list when the getting was >>>>>> good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle with >>>>>> the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly stays out >>>>>> of trouble these days.>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something like >>>>>> 15 years ago?>>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,[email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm >>>>>>> > and measured response in situations like this.>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Proper LOL
