If I am, I really don't mean to be. Guilty of poor communication. Conversation very confusing.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:08 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > Your tone is extremely condescending. I chose the emoji because it > is rude.> > You could read my works. My latest essay that addresses Drexciya and > UR and Moodymann and revolution is getting some pretty good reviews.> > I already shared the book in an earlier email. I’m arrogant, but not > arrogant enough to post the link again.> > Also, I don’t care about 1 or 10 or 50 white people who are bigots, > you’re all the same to me. I’m not gonna waste my energy debating with > you about who you are. And I have to look like you. It sux. 😢> > Denise > > > > > On Nov 6, 2018, at 07:42, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote: >> Yes I suppose it did. I wasn't aware that I was thinking about it, >> but as it happens I came across other information a couple of days >> ago which opened my eyes, and I will admit when I was wrong. To be >> fair, I am sometimes processing things well beyond a conversation. I >> do not have a neuro-typical mind, and often struggle to keep up with >> a conversation.>> >> The feeling I woke up with this morning was that James Stinson did >> feel very strongly about it, that I should know, and I hand't really >> listened to what he said in the interview. I felt bad about it, >> because it was ignorant. In the same manner I would defend other >> parties that fail to appreciate the sensitive nature of it, as >> probably not aware of the insult. I just didn't see it that way, that >> the interpretation as a listener probably just suited my own world >> view. I want to be clear that I'm not disappointed if that were the >> case, and I regret writing that I would be disappointed. I am not >> personally ashamed, but I see no reason to be disappointed. It's fair >> enough. I just don't really know enough about it, leading to my >> ignorance.>> >> It's funny the emoticon you have put there looks like happy surprise >> (though it probably depends on the image being used in the particular >> email reader I guess). It's hard to tell if it's meant to be. You >> seem happily provocative, and I don't really object to that. I might >> go and read more of what you have got to say about it. The music is >> something else in any case, but I accept that you probably know a lot >> better the motivations behind the music, and that you may be right.>> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 12:15 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> It took you this long to think of a response. 😲 >>> >>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 04:07, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote:>>>> >>> Denise >>>> >>>> I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really >>>> heard what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was >>>> about racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. >>>> Only 20 minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, >>>> but I know this was playing on my mind since reading an article on >>>> the mostly unknown involvement of Scottish families in the slave >>>> trade, and how Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and honoured those >>>> families. It makes you feel sick.>>>> >>>> I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently >>>> about the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation of >>>> Scotland by the British army for many many years following the >>>> battle of Culloden. Following that were the highland clearances, >>>> ordered by land-owners in England. There's a monument to one of >>>> them, the Duke of Sutherland, twice an MP in the British >>>> Parliament, he later became the British ambassador in Paris. People >>>> demand that the statue be removed, or at least moved. In short, it >>>> says more about the British involvement in the slave trade at the >>>> time, but Scotland is shamed. Ports were not directly used, but >>>> they were used in some arrangement which was directly involved with >>>> the slave trade. I felt that we had nothing to do with that ugly >>>> business. I was born in Glasgow, and my ancestors there were all >>>> poor working class families. I think we should be taught this stuff >>>> in school. That's all white-washing and as a result we are mostly >>>> ignorant. I will apologise for my own ignorance, and appreciate >>>> that you may be right. I certainly woke with a strong feeling that >>>> you could be.>>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are >>>>> offended. Read my original statements. I’m confused by your rage. >>>>> Better yet, you’re confused by your rage.>>>>> >>>>> Denise >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>> >>>>> Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and >>>>>> I feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions >>>>>> based on >50% of the synonyms being a match.>>>>>> >>>>>> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to >>>>>> choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying proper >>>>>> moral principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of:>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams >>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>> I think it's fine to disagree, >>>>>> even to argue, but putting on my >>>>>>> 313 List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List >>>>>>> Administrator Sceptre, let me say this:>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over >>>>>>> the line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise >>>>>>> has strong opinions and you can argue about them all you want, >>>>>>> but she is not unscrupulous.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think >>>>>>> it means.">>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi >>>>>>> <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>> Agreed, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be >>>>>>>> called out just as much as actual racist views/comments.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Next subject? 🤓👊🏿 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com >>>>>>>> <ja...@iridite.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't part >>>>>>>> of our.....discussion about >>>>>>>>> Dixon Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :)>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the >>>>>>>>> music..much love, massive respect, nuff said>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams >>>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck out of >>>>>>>>> the 313 list when the getting was >>>>>>>>>> good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle >>>>>>>>>> with the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly >>>>>>>>>> stays out of trouble these days.>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something >>>>>>>>>> like 15 years ago?>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust >>>>>>>>>> <mar...@dustscience.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,ja...@iridite.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm >>>>>>>>>>> > and measured response in situations like this.>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Proper LOL >>>> >>
