No idea what that is.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:13 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > “Provocative?” > > What is this 1988? Have you been watching Falcon Crest? > > > > On Nov 6, 2018, at 08:12, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote: >> If I am, I really don't mean to be. Guilty of poor communication. >> >> Conversation very confusing. >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:08 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Your tone is extremely condescending. I chose the emoji because it >>> is rude.>>> >>> You could read my works. My latest essay that addresses Drexciya and >>> UR and Moodymann and revolution is getting some pretty good reviews.>>> >>> I already shared the book in an earlier email. I’m arrogant, but not >>> arrogant enough to post the link again.>>> >>> Also, I don’t care about 1 or 10 or 50 white people who are bigots, >>> you’re all the same to me. I’m not gonna waste my energy debating >>> with you about who you are. And I have to look like you. It sux. 😢>>> >>> Denise >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 07:42, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote:>>>> >>> Yes I suppose it did. I wasn't aware that I was thinking about it, >>>> but as it happens I came across other information a couple of days >>>> ago which opened my eyes, and I will admit when I was wrong. To be >>>> fair, I am sometimes processing things well beyond a conversation. >>>> I do not have a neuro-typical mind, and often struggle to keep up >>>> with a conversation.>>>> >>>> The feeling I woke up with this morning was that James Stinson did >>>> feel very strongly about it, that I should know, and I hand't >>>> really listened to what he said in the interview. I felt bad about >>>> it, because it was ignorant. In the same manner I would defend >>>> other parties that fail to appreciate the sensitive nature of it, >>>> as probably not aware of the insult. I just didn't see it that way, >>>> that the interpretation as a listener probably just suited my own >>>> world view. I want to be clear that I'm not disappointed if that >>>> were the case, and I regret writing that I would be disappointed. I >>>> am not personally ashamed, but I see no reason to be disappointed. >>>> It's fair enough. I just don't really know enough about it, leading >>>> to my ignorance.>>>> >>>> It's funny the emoticon you have put there looks like happy >>>> surprise (though it probably depends on the image being used in the >>>> particular email reader I guess). It's hard to tell if it's meant >>>> to be. You seem happily provocative, and I don't really object to >>>> that. I might go and read more of what you have got to say about >>>> it. The music is something else in any case, but I accept that you >>>> probably know a lot better the motivations behind the music, and >>>> that you may be right.>>>> >>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 12:15 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It took you this long to think of a response. 😲 >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 04:07, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> >>>>> wrote:>>>>>> Denise >>>>>> >>>>>> I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really >>>>>> heard what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was >>>>>> about racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. >>>>>> Only 20 minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, >>>>>> but I know this was playing on my mind since reading an article >>>>>> on the mostly unknown involvement of Scottish families in the >>>>>> slave trade, and how Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and >>>>>> honoured those families. It makes you feel sick.>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently >>>>>> about the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation >>>>>> of Scotland by the British army for many many years following the >>>>>> battle of Culloden. Following that were the highland clearances, >>>>>> ordered by land-owners in England. There's a monument to one of >>>>>> them, the Duke of Sutherland, twice an MP in the British >>>>>> Parliament, he later became the British ambassador in Paris. >>>>>> People demand that the statue be removed, or at least moved. In >>>>>> short, it says more about the British involvement in the slave >>>>>> trade at the time, but Scotland is shamed. Ports were not >>>>>> directly used, but they were used in some arrangement which was >>>>>> directly involved with the slave trade. I felt that we had >>>>>> nothing to do with that ugly business. I was born in Glasgow, and >>>>>> my ancestors there were all poor working class families. I think >>>>>> we should be taught this stuff in school. That's all white- >>>>>> washing and as a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise >>>>>> for my own ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I >>>>>> certainly woke with a strong feeling that you could be.>>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are >>>>>>> offended. Read my original statements. I’m confused by your >>>>>>> rage. Better yet, you’re confused by your rage.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Denise >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> Even though English is my second language I just looked >>>>>>> it up >>>>>>>> and I feel that it was an accurate description of her >>>>>>>> intentions based on >50% of the synonyms being a match.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms >>>>>>>> to choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying >>>>>>>> proper moral principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams >>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>> I think it's fine to >>>>>>>> disagree, even to argue, but putting on >>>>>>>>> my 313 List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List >>>>>>>>> Administrator Sceptre, let me say this:>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over >>>>>>>>> the line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. >>>>>>>>> Denise has strong opinions and you can argue about them all >>>>>>>>> you want, but she is not unscrupulous.>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you >>>>>>>>> think it means.">>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi >>>>>>>>> <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> Agreed, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be >>>>>>>>>> called out just as much as actual racist views/comments.>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Next subject? 🤓👊🏿 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com >>>>>>>>>> <ja...@iridite.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't >>>>>>>>>> part of our.....discussion about >>>>>>>>>>> Dixon Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook >>>>>>>>>>> :)>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the >>>>>>>>>>> music..much love, massive respect, nuff said>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams >>>>>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck >>>>>>>>>>> out of the 313 list when the getting >>>>>>>>>>>> was good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing >>>>>>>>>>>> battle with the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he >>>>>>>>>>>> mostly stays out of trouble these days.>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. >>>>>>>>>>>> Something like 15 years ago?>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust >>>>>>>>>>>> <mar...@dustscience.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,ja...@iridite.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > calm and measured response in situations like >>>>>>>>>>>>> > this.>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Proper LOL >>>>>> >>>> >>
