“Provocative?” What is this 1988? Have you been watching Falcon Crest?
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 08:12, Steven Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > > If I am, I really don't mean to be. Guilty of poor communication. > > Conversation very confusing. > >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Your tone is extremely condescending. I chose the emoji because it is rude. >> >> You could read my works. My latest essay that addresses Drexciya and UR and >> Moodymann and revolution is getting some pretty good reviews. >> >> I already shared the book in an earlier email. I’m arrogant, but not >> arrogant enough to post the link again. >> >> Also, I don’t care about 1 or 10 or 50 white people who are bigots, you’re >> all the same to me. I’m not gonna waste my energy debating with you about >> who you are. And I have to look like you. It sux. 😢 >> >> Denise >> >> >> >> >>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 07:42, Steven Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yes I suppose it did. I wasn't aware that I was thinking about it, but as >>> it happens I came across other information a couple of days ago which >>> opened my eyes, and I will admit when I was wrong. To be fair, I am >>> sometimes processing things well beyond a conversation. I do not have a >>> neuro-typical mind, and often struggle to keep up with a conversation. >>> >>> The feeling I woke up with this morning was that James Stinson did feel >>> very strongly about it, that I should know, and I hand't really listened to >>> what he said in the interview. I felt bad about it, because it was >>> ignorant. In the same manner I would defend other parties that fail to >>> appreciate the sensitive nature of it, as probably not aware of the insult. >>> I just didn't see it that way, that the interpretation as a listener >>> probably just suited my own world view. I want to be clear that I'm not >>> disappointed if that were the case, and I regret writing that I would be >>> disappointed. I am not personally ashamed, but I see no reason to be >>> disappointed. It's fair enough. I just don't really know enough about it, >>> leading to my ignorance. >>> >>> It's funny the emoticon you have put there looks like happy surprise >>> (though it probably depends on the image being used in the particular email >>> reader I guess). It's hard to tell if it's meant to be. You seem happily >>> provocative, and I don't really object to that. I might go and read more of >>> what you have got to say about it. The music is something else in any case, >>> but I accept that you probably know a lot better the motivations behind the >>> music, and that you may be right. >>> >>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 12:15 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> It took you this long to think of a response. 😲 >>>> >>>>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 04:07, Steven Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Denise >>>>> >>>>> I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really heard >>>>> what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was about racism, >>>>> and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. Only 20 minutes later >>>>> I'm writing this and I'm still half asleep, but I know this was playing >>>>> on my mind since reading an article on the mostly unknown involvement of >>>>> Scottish families in the slave trade, and how Glasgow and Edinburgh >>>>> benefited, and honoured those families. It makes you feel sick. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently about >>>>> the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation of Scotland by >>>>> the British army for many many years following the battle of Culloden. >>>>> Following that were the highland clearances, ordered by land-owners in >>>>> England. There's a monument to one of them, the Duke of Sutherland, twice >>>>> an MP in the British Parliament, he later became the British ambassador >>>>> in Paris. People demand that the statue be removed, or at least moved. In >>>>> short, it says more about the British involvement in the slave trade at >>>>> the time, but Scotland is shamed. Ports were not directly used, but they >>>>> were used in some arrangement which was directly involved with the slave >>>>> trade. I felt that we had nothing to do with that ugly business. I was >>>>> born in Glasgow, and my ancestors there were all poor working class >>>>> families. I think we should be taught this stuff in school. That's all >>>>> white-washing and as a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise >>>>> for my own ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I certainly >>>>> woke with a strong feeling that you could be. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are offended. >>>>>> Read my original statements. I’m confused by your rage. Better yet, >>>>>> you’re confused by your rage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Denise >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and I >>>>>>> feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions based on >>>>>>> >50% of the synonyms being a match. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to >>>>>>> choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying proper moral >>>>>>> principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I think it's fine to disagree, even to argue, but putting on my 313 >>>>>>> List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List Administrator >>>>>>> Sceptre, let me say this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over the >>>>>>> line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise has strong >>>>>>> opinions and you can argue about them all you want, but she is not >>>>>>> unscrupulous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you think it >>>>>>> means." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Agreed, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be called out >>>>>>> just as much as actual racist views/comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next subject? 🤓👊🏿 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.....discussion about Dixon >>>>>>> Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the music..much >>>>>>> love, massive respect, nuff said >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck out of the 313 list when the getting was good. >>>>>>> He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle with the sucka >>>>>>> MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly stays out of trouble these >>>>>>> days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something like 15 >>>>>>> years ago? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,[email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and >>>>>>> > measured response in situations like this. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Proper LOL >>>>> >>> >
