I will just unsubscribe from this list. I apologise for whatever I said that caused or may cause offence. I'm only here for the music, and I'm sorry for responding to this topic entirely. Bye.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:14 PM, Steven Robertson wrote: > No idea what that is. > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:13 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> “Provocative?” >> >> What is this 1988? Have you been watching Falcon Crest? >> >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2018, at 08:12, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> wrote:>>> If I >> am, I really don't mean to be. Guilty of poor communication. >>> >>> Conversation very confusing. >>> >>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 1:08 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Your tone is extremely condescending. I chose the emoji because it >>>> is rude.>>>> >>>> You could read my works. My latest essay that addresses Drexciya >>>> and UR and Moodymann and revolution is getting some pretty good >>>> reviews.>>>> >>>> I already shared the book in an earlier email. I’m arrogant, but >>>> not arrogant enough to post the link again.>>>> >>>> Also, I don’t care about 1 or 10 or 50 white people who are bigots, >>>> you’re all the same to me. I’m not gonna waste my energy debating >>>> with you about who you are. And I have to look like you. It sux. 😢>>>> >>>> Denise >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 07:42, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> >>>> wrote:>>>>> Yes I suppose it did. I wasn't aware that I was thinking about >>>> it, >>>>> but as it happens I came across other information a couple of days >>>>> ago which opened my eyes, and I will admit when I was wrong. To be >>>>> fair, I am sometimes processing things well beyond a conversation. >>>>> I do not have a neuro-typical mind, and often struggle to keep up >>>>> with a conversation.>>>>> >>>>> The feeling I woke up with this morning was that James Stinson did >>>>> feel very strongly about it, that I should know, and I hand't >>>>> really listened to what he said in the interview. I felt bad about >>>>> it, because it was ignorant. In the same manner I would defend >>>>> other parties that fail to appreciate the sensitive nature of it, >>>>> as probably not aware of the insult. I just didn't see it that >>>>> way, that the interpretation as a listener probably just suited my >>>>> own world view. I want to be clear that I'm not disappointed if >>>>> that were the case, and I regret writing that I would be >>>>> disappointed. I am not personally ashamed, but I see no reason to >>>>> be disappointed. It's fair enough. I just don't really know enough >>>>> about it, leading to my ignorance.>>>>> >>>>> It's funny the emoticon you have put there looks like happy >>>>> surprise (though it probably depends on the image being used in >>>>> the particular email reader I guess). It's hard to tell if it's >>>>> meant to be. You seem happily provocative, and I don't really >>>>> object to that. I might go and read more of what you have got to >>>>> say about it. The music is something else in any case, but I >>>>> accept that you probably know a lot better the motivations behind >>>>> the music, and that you may be right.>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018, at 12:15 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It took you this long to think of a response. 😲 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 04:07, Steven Robertson <stev...@k-os.net> >>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>> Denise >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I woke up this morning having had a dream where I hadn't really >>>>>>> heard what James Stinson was saying to Andrew Duke, that it was >>>>>>> about racism, and that Denise was right. The feeling was strong. >>>>>>> Only 20 minutes later I'm writing this and I'm still half >>>>>>> asleep, but I know this was playing on my mind since reading an >>>>>>> article on the mostly unknown involvement of Scottish families >>>>>>> in the slave trade, and how Glasgow and Edinburgh benefited, and >>>>>>> honoured those families. It makes you feel sick.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not well read on history, but I also have read more recently >>>>>>> about the practically unknown, hidden and widespread occupation >>>>>>> of Scotland by the British army for many many years following >>>>>>> the battle of Culloden. Following that were the highland >>>>>>> clearances, ordered by land-owners in England. There's a >>>>>>> monument to one of them, the Duke of Sutherland, twice an MP in >>>>>>> the British Parliament, he later became the British ambassador >>>>>>> in Paris. People demand that the statue be removed, or at least >>>>>>> moved. In short, it says more about the British involvement in >>>>>>> the slave trade at the time, but Scotland is shamed. Ports were >>>>>>> not directly used, but they were used in some arrangement which >>>>>>> was directly involved with the slave trade. I felt that we had >>>>>>> nothing to do with that ugly business. I was born in Glasgow, >>>>>>> and my ancestors there were all poor working class families. I >>>>>>> think we should be taught this stuff in school. That's all white- >>>>>>> washing and as a result we are mostly ignorant. I will apologise >>>>>>> for my own ignorance, and appreciate that you may be right. I >>>>>>> certainly woke with a strong feeling that you could be.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, at 7:23 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are >>>>>>>> offended. Read my original statements. I’m confused by your >>>>>>>> rage. Better yet, you’re confused by your rage.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Denise >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> Even though English is my second language I just >>>>>>>> looked it up >>>>>>>>> and I feel that it was an accurate description of her >>>>>>>>> intentions based on >50% of the synonyms being a match.>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms >>>>>>>>> to choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying >>>>>>>>> proper moral principles” is precisely what she’s guilty of:>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS761US761&hl=en-US&ei=_KnQW9COIdrB0PEPjLmWgAM&ins=false&q=unscrupulous&oq=uns&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.1.0.35i39j0i131l2j46i20i264j0i131.3280.5506..6457...1.0..3.502.2111.0j9j1j5-1......0....1.......5..0j0i71j0i10j46i39j0i131i20i264.72dD2dpqNVQ>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:19 AM kent williams >>>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> I think it's fine to >>>>>>>>> disagree, even to argue, but putting on >>>>>>>>>> my 313 List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List >>>>>>>>>> Administrator Sceptre, let me say this:>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is >>>>>>>>>> over the line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. >>>>>>>>>> Denise has strong opinions and you can argue about them all >>>>>>>>>> you want, but she is not unscrupulous.>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To quote Inigo Montoya, "I do not think it means what you >>>>>>>>>> think it means.">>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM Joe Marougi >>>>>>>>>> <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be >>>>>>>>>>> called out just as much as actual racist views/comments.>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Next subject? 🤓👊🏿 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com >>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@iridite.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh - you obviously weren't >>>>>>>>>>> part of our.....discussion >>>>>>>>>>>> about Dixon Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on >>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook :)>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ANYWAY....let's move off the insta-drama and on to the >>>>>>>>>>>> music..much love, massive respect, nuff said>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams >>>>>>>>>>>> <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Cox got the fuck >>>>>>>>>>>> out of the 313 list when the getting >>>>>>>>>>>>> was good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing >>>>>>>>>>>>> battle with the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he >>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly stays out of trouble these days.>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like 15 years ago?>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Dust >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mar...@dustscience.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36,ja...@iridite.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > calm and measured response in situations like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > this.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proper LOL >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
