I just think it's 100% plain that you two trigger each other to a high
degree and I can completely understand why....but how do we move forward
and talk about music and the knowledge we've got about it when so many
subjects seem to lead to a shouting match between two people?

ANYHOW, did anyone check out the Todd Sines EP on Sleepers from a year or
two ago?  Very good Detroit-ish Techno, I really liked it.

https://soundcloud.com/sleepersound-2/a2-depth



On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:30, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Denise,
> The fact that you think that your views would make anyone laugh deserves a
> thread of its own.
>
> Jason,
> I hear you and I promise to tone it down.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:24 PM <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It is my sincere hope that my words make some people on this list laugh.
>> And don’t forget about all the lurkers. Their opinions might be smart, too.
>>
>>
>> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
>> *ethnomusicologist*
>> *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work/>*
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 15:19, "ja...@iridite.com" <ja...@iridite.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's not me that's Unsubbing Joe...it's others.  And there's not a huge
>> amount of traffic on here and as Kent mentioned a few weeks ago, there's a
>> significant amount of new people on here who's first experience of the
>> hallowed 313 list is a couple of people bickering endlessly
>>
>> That's nothing like the sparky and knowledgeable chats I used to see on
>> here 15 years ago.
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 20:16, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t like it when she bullies others.  They may be too polite to bite
>>> back but I’m not.
>>>
>>> I’ve received private messages from users in support of my replies.
>>>
>>> How about you ignore them?  Its not like it happens that often, nor does
>>> it get in the way of other discussions.
>>>
>>> If she can use posts as segways into her self/white hate by directly or
>>> indirectly baiting us into false race-related angles then why can’t we
>>> respond?
>>>
>>> The Drexciya video thread was a classic example.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:08 PM ja...@iridite.com <ja...@iridite.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Denise and Joe, is there no way you can keep your mutual animosity out
>>>>> of this arena?  It's seriously off-putting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 17:37, Kent Sandvik <sand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Threads like this with so much hatred have nothing to do with techno
>>>>>> and Detroit so most likely I will unsubscribe. --Kent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Manish Miglani <
>>>>>> noreplyfut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please unsubscribe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manish Miglani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens
>>>>>>> can change the world.  Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”
>>>>>>> Margaret Mead*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 11:25 AM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does stand for that. They changed the meaning of it because my
>>>>>>> shit was so strong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe, did you read my new article about Drexciya and Moodymann and UR
>>>>>>> and Theo Parrish? It’s in a book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love,
>>>>>>> Denise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.*
>>>>>>> *ethnomusicologist*
>>>>>>> *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work/>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2018, at 12:05, Joe Marougi <jmaro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her “heart?”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean her “hate”.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She’s the biggest racist in this group and doesn’t even realize it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her PhD probably stands for profound hate doctorate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:00 AM Martin Dust <mar...@dustscience.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Red Bull don’t actually make anything, the drink itself is licensed
>>>>>>>> and manufactured by the original Thai licenser (Chaleo Yoovidhya). Red 
>>>>>>>> Bull
>>>>>>>> only exist to make money, somewhere around 6 Billion last time I 
>>>>>>>> looked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All their labour goes into the brand, that’s why they buy out edgy
>>>>>>>> sports and events, they are after the front covers rather than paying 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> advertising. This also helps keep up the claim of being an edgy
>>>>>>>> “non-marketed brand” - it cost a lot of money to do that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There target is always young kids, the next generation, pretty easy
>>>>>>>> when they have a 70% share of the market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My experience of them is they collect people, creditability and
>>>>>>>> “things”, they employ creative agencies to do the buying and not cheap
>>>>>>>> agencies either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m surprised that Denise has any support in her heart for people
>>>>>>>> who do this on a weekly basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/VfHYGjU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On 13 Dec 2018, at 16:58, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Moodymann just played Paisley Park and red bull had a hand in
>>>>>>>> arranging that. That’s good for Moodymann, who plays in Detroit a lot. 
>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>> that’s good for Detroit.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Mike Banks should have been treated with way more fanfare and
>>>>>>>> better questions. But he gets to take that enormous, global stage. 
>>>>>>>> That’s
>>>>>>>> good for Mike Banks and good for Detroit.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> > ethnomusicologist
>>>>>>>> > schoolcraftwax.work
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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