'Hypocrite' wrote:

>it's total bollocks but after thinking last night i'm still gonna
>have to go check out his new (not)techno style. he must've
>bought a whole new collection of records recently, that's all i'm saying.
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Exactly! You'll go anyway! And Gatecrasher not being in London is the only
reason I'd contemplate not going ... apart from that, aren't you
intrigued?!? 'JM plays a house set' has got to be the best house set for
miles around surely? Perhaps it's time to stop being churlish and accept
progress when it's inevitable: Did you see JM at lost NYE? Films? Exclusive
'Space' arty crowd etc? It was more Islington than Brixton! But I enjoyed it
... Things have to move on and people too ... we're all getting older. If we
are to maintain our love of all this and all it entails we need to discover
deeper ways of appreciating it - or else Detroit's gonna seem like a long
way away from anything really important. Ways that aren't dependent on a
particular type of venue, a certain artificial  'downshifter' attitude -
which you can falsify yourself by discovering how many public school types
there are in most crowds of tech-heads ...

By the way Sunship  ... I make that number 50.

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>From: innercity records [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:39 AM
>To: Cyclone Wehner; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again
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>what's gonna stop the diehard fan going to fabric
>is the fact that jeff's saying his music isn't techno
>anymore and that's gonna piss alot of people off.
>the club when he plays is simply gonna be full of
>media types and club regulars who may show a
>passing interest in his set until he drops something
>from waveform transmissions. then watch the room clear.
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>a greater diversity of people at house clubs? i was at
>our local techno club on saturday there were nearly as many
>girls as boys ages 16 to 40+ wearing anything from t shirt and
>jeans to ladies in dinner dresses. the music was deep house
>to electro and hard funky techno.
>what got played at tribal sessions on friday? prog house for 8 hours.
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>to some of the london people who've reseponded to this.
>would you still be saying the same if he'd chosen tribal sessions
>and gatecrasher?
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>it's total bollocks but after thinking last night i'm still gonna
>have to go check out his new (not)techno style. he must've
>bought a whole new collection of records recently, that's all i'm saying.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again
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>> That's what I was trying to raise. That depends on the nature of 'techno'
>> clubs in the UK. There are some great techno clubs in the UK, I am sure,
>> with The End, etc and they are important. But we have had the same things
>> here with techno clubs - they become very hard, they become very
>> male-centric, everyone even wears the same kind of clothes, it's an
>> intimidating enviroment maybe and it's predictable, which is not a
>'techno'
>> attribute. The DJs are then expected to play a certain kind of techno. I
>> have seen that happen here as well. Here techno clubs can be very Anglo,
>> too. I am not saying this doesn't happen to house clubs, but there is a
>> great diversity of people, across the gender and sexual spectrum, even
>> across the ethnic spectrum. What is stopping a techno diehard going to
>> Fabric, really? That is another question you have to ask. It could be as
>> simple as Mills wanting to break down barriers and switch things up a
>> little. He's always been 10 steps ahead of us. There is probably an
>> interesting reason behind it.
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>> >From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org"
><313@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: RE: [313] jeff mills stars again
>> >Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 6:07 PM
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>> >What IS a 'House Club' anyway? Is it's 'housiness' defined by size,
>style(s)
>> >of music which prevail there, or just the fact that it's a sort of
>generic
>> >night club, frequented by young(ish) people ... with a preference for
>'dance
>> >music' (another problematic term) as opposed to thrash metal (or
>something.)
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>> >What I'm getting at is that I fail to see what material difference will
>be
>> >made to Mr Mills' prediliction to play in any particular type of club by
>any
>> >such 'pronouncement' (if he did indeed make it) that he will now, only
>play
>> >in 'House Clubs'.
>> >
>> >Business as usual then Jeff, great.
>> >
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:56 AM
>> >>To: innercity records; 313@hyperreal.org
>> >>Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again
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>> >>>so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs?
>> >>
>> >>why are we restricting clubs to one style or the other?
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>> >>this is the first I've heard of Jeff 's announcement, but I'm sure
>> >>he'd shake things up no matter what the label hanging outside the
>> >>club.
>> >>
>> >>-d
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