11/12/2002 9:31:55 AM, robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop scene. >> > >> > >> >don't think that is true....the rave scene developed out of the northern >> >soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house (the >> >other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the same >> >time) >> >> I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene. I think it was >> definetly >> "proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House >> Raids in 1989, and >> 1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses. That is when the >> culture grew, and >> it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion. > >hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :) > >rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national >newspaper headlines!!),
I don't disagree that it may have been a form of "proto-rave", but I don't feel it is anywhere at all in the same boat as what we call Rave nowadays, especially in this country. The Acid House Scene to me is more of a neo-hippie, political stance against club culture, that was for anyone; Rave is more of an underground, elitist, apathetic-about-politics (until recently anyway), scene that is very cultural and tight, as oppossed to a "free love" kinda hippie-ish thing in the Acid House Scene. >this was quite a bit before hardcore happened >which was 89/90 -> 1987 was We Are IE, which is generally considered to be the first Hardcore tune. >> >> Hence all the >> >> dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore. >> > >> >that came later... >> >> nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and the >> early SUAD >> releases. > >SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the >time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw) I have SUAD1 and its 87 or 88. And We Are IE was on plate in 87, it didnt get pressed until 89, but was being played before that. ------------------- -Ian Entropy (bhpc, happy vibe rec, new sample revolution, n.e. hardcore, boston) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.djentropy.com Soulseek: djentropy AIM: DJEntropy WinMX: djentropy422
