> >hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)
> >
> >rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
> >newspaper headlines!!),
>
> I don't disagree that it may have been a form of "proto-rave", but I don't 
> feel it is
> anywhere at all in the same boat as what we call Rave nowadays, especially in 
> this country.
> The Acid House Scene to me is more of a neo-hippie, political stance against 
> club culture,
> that was for anyone; Rave is more of an underground, elitist, 
> apathetic-about-politics
> (until recently anyway), scene that is very cultural and tight, as oppossed 
> to a "free
> love" kinda hippie-ish thing in the Acid House Scene.

aha, we differ in what we call "Rave"....uk vs. us culture.

fair enough...

> 1987 was We Are IE, which is generally considered to be the first Hardcore 
> tune.

i find that date hard to believe....i remember the tune
coming out and being hammered on the sheffield (uk) pirate stations at the
time....i was in sheff from 89->

you could be right tho

> >SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
> >time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw)
>
> I have SUAD1 and its 87 or 88.  And We Are IE was on plate in 87, it didnt 
> get pressed
> until 89, but was being played before that.

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cheers

robin...

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