Adorno is pretty hardcore - some of what he writes, with regard to the 
synthesis of the spirit of music into a commercial product, does hit home I 
feel, but a lot of it seems to be the writings of a man desparately trying to 
cling onto something that was fast disappearing whilst technology washed over 
him like a huge wave. 

He was writing at a time when many of the great composers of the early 20th 
century had just passed away or were coming to the end of their lives, and of 
course the likes of Schoenberg were beginning to make their mark with 
Serialism, so you can sense his despair, but his perspective just seems, if not 
dated, just out of place given the state of modern music and its relationship 
with technology.





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From: JT Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 January 2008 15:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Martin Dust; 313 313
Subject: Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of


sorry, i was a media production major and had to study him extensively...

his views on music are considered a bit fascist (although he himself
ran from the nazi's), he had an absolute hatred for anything that was
not "high-culture", which of course included the whole of black
culture.

here's the relevant bit from his wikipedia page

"In 1936, the Zeitschrift featured one of Adorno's most controversial
texts, "On Jazz" ("Über Jazz"). It should be noted that "jazz" was
frequently used to refer to all popular music at the time of Adorno's
writing. This article was less an engagement with this style of music
than a first polemic against the blooming entertainment and culture
industry. Adorno believed the culture industry was a system by which
society was controlled though a top-down creation of standardized
culture that intensified the commodification of artistic expression.
Extensive correspondence with Horkheimer, who was then living in exile
in the United States, led to an offer of employment in America."

on the surface, you can even slightly agree with it, but his views are
absolutely uncompromising, absolutely anti-social, and biased towards
his own supposed elite experience with high-brow classical music and
academia.


On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i don't.....
>
> all i know about adorno is that i studied his text books in
> highschool history of art class
>
> i guess wikipedia is my friend though....
>
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> Da : Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Oggetto : Re: (313) C2 at Carnegie Hall, well sort of
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> Data : Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:16:35 +0000
>
> > On 11 Jan 2008, at 15:06, JT Stewart wrote:
> >
> > > adorno and horkheimer published most of their stuff in
> > the 40's. >
> >
> > Got ya...
> >
> > m
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