Great post Toby! Bang on.
2008/5/2 Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If Hawtin had gone down the route of someone like Carl Cox or Paul van Dyk, > then I would say that the vitriol directed at him would be worthwhile. The > fact is that whilst his DJ sets are pretty dull, they're still, to someone > who doesn't know the music at all, rather unusual and weird. To the trained > ear of the 313 list members and others, yes, it's all a bit directionless, > but it's still abstract. The fact that he can pack out big festivals and > clubs is interesting - and ultimately I feel that there's still enough credit > being paid, by proxy, to those who made this music at the same time. People > getting into Hawtin will see his discography (that goes back a long way) and > explore from there. > > It's easy to dismiss the whole minimal scene because it's laced with the > unfortunate fashionista tag, but ultimately that's where the kinetic energy > of dance music is right now. And those who are really interested in the music > and its history will get into what inspired it. Basic Channel are utterly > revered now, and you see Hood now getting the credit he deserves. > > It takes time. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 May 2008 11:23 > To: 313 Mailing List > Subject: Re: (313) Easiest way to start a (313) argument - the Richie > Hawtin RA Podcast > > > > > > On 2 May 2008, at 10:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hmmmm, I'm talking more about the entire "thing" he's created in > > Berlin and his general, almost slavish, use of the newest > > gadget/technology. > > > Nah, Bowie and Eno did that stuff years before him, so he likes > technology it's not really a big shocker, is it? > > Bjork has had loads of focus for it, it doesn't write the tunes tho as > her new album testifies. > > I don't pick up on this slavish thing Jason to be honest but I do > share a love for toys and have been torturing myself for months over > the iPhone. > > > Personally I find it extremelly difficult to > > "market", do good artwork , press etc but that's only a small part of > > his activities anyway. > > This isn't a recent thing for me, I've been of a similar opinion since > > about 1994! > > Fair enough but at the end of the day good music wins thru, regardless > of all the "fluff". > > > > > > > Jason "naive" Brunton -(you obviously haven't met a lot of the > > customers we have who buy Minus material or you wouldn't have made > > that comment :) ) > > The naive comment wasn't aimed at anyone, but I stand by it tho and > yeah I buy Minus, I don't have a small beard, scarf or dress in bright > colours :) God I feel like I'm confessing to something dirty! > > m > > PS. Have you seen your picture in DJ mag this month? > > > > > For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This > message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential > and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, > use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our > prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone > calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality > control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media > Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and > Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 > Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT. > >