Nice to see the smaller players learning how to put on their big boy
pants and join the ranks of carrier grade vendors.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:08 PM
*To:* Josh Luthman
*Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz
Well, MikroTik does have 48v now (the hEX PoE/PowerBox Pro will take up
to 57 volts), but it's only one or the other, it doesn't do any voltage
conversion. But what I've been doing at some sites is something like
using one PowerBox Pro to feed all the 24v only gear, and a second one
to feed the 48v gear.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Agreed.
EdgePoint does 48v only but has the outdoor part.
Netonix does 24v and 48v but doesn't have any outdoor capability
(enclosures would have to be ridiculous for the 12 port+)
Mikrotik only has 4 ports and 24v only.
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point.
What I'd like, is a box that I can connect a power supply to
(whether that's 48v, or 24v, I don't care) that gives my a 48v
and a 24v output, and has another connection for batteries and
it deals with feeding the batteries the correct voltages and
current. Whether that's 12v, 24v or 48v batteries, I don't
really care... although I'd prefer 12v or 24v so can use a
smaller number of bigger batteries, if I want to.
Ideally, Forrest would build this, so I could just plug it into
the SiteMonitors that are already there, and be able to monitor
and control it as well.
Of course I can buy all the parts separately to do the same
thing, but having a pre-built box to do the job would be a lot
cleaner.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
It was 48v
Then it was mostly 24v
Now it's going 48v
Just give it a little bit, it'll go back to 24v.
I'd rather get a power supply doing 26v to fix my problem in
2 minutes than start changing things to 48v which would blow
so much stuff up (epmp non gps, ubnt M gear, half the Mikrotiks)
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Mathew Howard
<mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
No, there's not really a good reason, it just means you
have an extra part to deal with.
We still use UBNT for our 2.4ghz stuff, but those are
the only radios that won't run off 48v on most of our
new sites, so I've done some that are 48v only and just
use those things on the radios that need them. But if
you have more than 1 or 2 things that need 24v, it's
generally more practical to just use a bigger voltage
converter and run multiple radios off it.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:57 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Yep, that was what I was thinking.
So, looks to me like there is no reason not to do 48
volts.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:56 AM
*To:* Chuck McCown
*Cc:* Dave ; AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again -
specifically 2ghz
You mean like this?
https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/
<https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/>
Or do you have something better in mind?
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
Me too...
So, what appetite is there for an inline POE
regulator that would convert 48 to 24?
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
*To:* Dave
*Cc:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again -
specifically 2ghz
ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...
Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers
will happily take 48v. Mikrotik is finally
starting to make most of the new stuff handle
48v (including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT
is the reason I still have to use 24v on most of
our towers... they make a converter you can
stick on in line with the radios, but that's
kind of a pain if you have more than one or two,
and it's an extra part to fail.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave
<dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
They make dental floss for that :)
On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Except for every single Ubnt device and a
majority of Mikrotiks....
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh
Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
I promise life will be easier if you
just use 48V. :)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro
to power up two epmp APs. The 5
GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is
saying current too low. Both
ports are getting 23 volts and the
cables are <10 feet (from the
Powerbox Pro).
Does anyone know if the 2ghz
requires more voltage possibly?
Spec sheet does say 23 volts min
but it's weird one powers (5 ghz)
and the other doesn't.
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