we use quite a few of the 8 port netonix.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: Mathew Howard 
  Cc: AFMUG 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz


  Agreed.


  EdgePoint does 48v only but has the outdoor part.
  Netonix does 24v and 48v but doesn't have any outdoor capability (enclosures 
would have to be ridiculous for the 12 port+)
  Mikrotik only has 4 ports and 24v only.




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  On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point.


    What I'd like, is a box that I can connect a power supply to (whether 
that's 48v, or 24v, I don't care) that gives my a 48v and a 24v output, and has 
another connection for batteries and it deals with feeding the batteries the 
correct voltages and current. Whether that's 12v, 24v or 48v batteries, I don't 
really care... although I'd prefer 12v or 24v so can use a smaller number of 
bigger batteries, if I want to.


    Ideally, Forrest would build this, so I could just plug it into the 
SiteMonitors that are already there, and be able to monitor and control it as 
well.


    Of course I can buy all the parts separately to do the same thing, but 
having a pre-built box to do the job would be a lot cleaner.



    On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

      It was 48v 
      Then it was mostly 24v
      Now it's going 48v
      Just give it a little bit, it'll go back to 24v.


      I'd rather get a power supply doing 26v to fix my problem in 2 minutes 
than start changing things to 48v which would blow so much stuff up (epmp non 
gps, ubnt M gear, half the Mikrotiks)




      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        No, there's not really a good reason, it just means you have an extra 
part to deal with.


        We still use UBNT for our 2.4ghz stuff, but those are the only radios 
that won't run off 48v on most of our new sites, so I've done some that are 48v 
only and just use those things on the radios that need them. But if you have 
more than 1 or 2 things that need 24v, it's generally more practical to just 
use a bigger voltage converter and run multiple radios off it.



        On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:57 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          Yep, that was what I was thinking.
          So, looks to me like there is no reason not to do 48 volts.  

          From: Mathew Howard 
          Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:56 AM
          To: Chuck McCown 
          Cc: Dave ; AFMUG 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

          You mean like this? 

          https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/

          Or do you have something better in mind?


          On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            Me too...
            So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would 
convert 48 to 24?


            From: Mathew Howard 
            Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
            To: Dave 
            Cc: AFMUG 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz

            ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...

            Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take 
48v. Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v 
(including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to use 
24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on in line 
with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than one or two, 
and it's an extra part to fail.


            On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:

              They make dental floss for that  :)



              On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of 
Mikrotiks....


                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

                  I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)

                  On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                    I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs.  
The 5 GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low.  Both ports are 
getting 23 volts and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).

                    Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?

                    Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers 
(5 ghz) and the other doesn't.

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

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