The obvious difference there is that it's going to take a certain amount of skill to use a manual lathe and mill. They're making it sound like any idiot can just print out a complete, fully functional gun. Even with one of those really good 6 figure printers, I'm assuming you're still going to at least have to assemble the thing (not that it's really matters anyway, if you can afford to spend that kind of money, you're going to be able to get as many untraceable guns as you want). Anyway, if somebody actually did manage to make a gun with a $90 3D printer, what are the chances it won't blow up in their face when they try to use it?
Pencils do seem pretty dangerous... and do we really need them, when safe, soft tipped sharpies are so easily available? It would probably be best if all just lived in padded cells, and were only allowed to use our sporks at meal times, under proper supervision... On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:36 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > No, bicycle spoke drawings are not forbidden.... > > There are 3D metal printers. But for really good ones you are probably > taking 6 figures. > > But a manual lathe and mill can be purchased for $1K and you can buy > metal... > > I don’t think they are going to be able to draw a line, but let’s assume > for a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world. What > would they say I wonder... We can only rent sporks from the restaurant > while dining. No sharp pencils allowed? > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns > > Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D > printer actually does. I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, > download that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later. > > If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old > bicycle, using a file and a hacksaw, would that be illegal? it's really no > different... > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote: > >> On 8/1/18 8:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> > I had all of the 3D files for an AR-15 years ago. >> > Widely available for download. >> > Easy to send to a 3D printer or a CNC milling machine. >> > The news is hyping this as something new. I’ll bet those files I >> > downloaded are at least 10 years old. >> > Give me a gun, micrometer, calipers, height gauge and I will re-create >> > those files in a day. >> > What is the difference between thick walled tubing and a barrel? >> > Is a file that gives the design for a trigger or hammer going to be >> > outlawed. >> > But what if you make cap guns... Squire guns... airsoft or paint ball >> > guns.... >> > And are they going to outlaw just certain gun part files or >> combinations >> > of files.... this seems totally impossible to outlaw. >> > >> > >> >> It seems like people think anyone can go buy a $90 entry level 3D >> printer and crank out a fully functional weapon instantly. Well, >> something for stabbing could be done in one print. I have to assume that >> everyone who is freaking out has never seen a real 3D printer. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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