It’s more about export laws governing weapons.  Just like you can’t export
strong encryption etc.

And also it is still LENT -Stay klassy San Diego ;)

-sean




On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:36 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I guess we are actually getting into politics.  But it is just
> files, and the rights to own and share files.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 11:31 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
> I am out of here for now ...you open the door I don't want to go in...you
> will not like my response
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 10:36 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> No, bicycle spoke drawings are not forbidden....
>>
>> There are 3D metal printers.  But for really good ones you are probably
>> taking 6 figures.
>>
>> But a manual lathe and mill can be purchased for $1K and you can buy
>> metal...
>>
>> I don’t think they are going to be able to draw a line, but let’s assume
>> for a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world.  What
>> would they say I wonder...  We can only rent sporks from the restaurant
>> while dining.  No sharp pencils allowed?
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>>
>> Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D
>> printer actually does.  I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer,
>> download that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later.
>>
>> If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old
>> bicycle, using a file and a hacksaw, would that be illegal? it's really no
>> different...
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/1/18 8:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> > I had all of the 3D files for an AR-15 years ago.
>>> > Widely available for download.
>>> > Easy to send to a 3D printer or a CNC milling machine.
>>> > The news is hyping this as something new.  I’ll bet those files I
>>> > downloaded are at least 10 years old.
>>> > Give me a gun, micrometer, calipers, height gauge and I will re-create
>>> > those files in a day.
>>> > What is the difference between thick walled tubing and a barrel?
>>> > Is a file that gives the design for a trigger or hammer going to be
>>> > outlawed.
>>> > But what if you make cap guns...  Squire guns... airsoft or paint ball
>>> > guns....
>>> > And are they going to outlaw just certain gun part files or
>>> combinations
>>> > of files.... this seems totally impossible to outlaw.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> It seems like people think anyone can go buy a $90 entry level 3D
>>> printer and crank out a fully functional weapon instantly. Well,
>>> something for stabbing could be done in one print. I have to assume that
>>> everyone who is freaking out has never seen a real 3D printer.
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