Sorry, I guess we are actually getting into politics.  But it is just files, 
and the rights to own and share files.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 11:31 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

I am out of here for now ...you open the door I don't want to go in...you will 
not like my response


Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 10:36 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  No, bicycle spoke drawings are not forbidden....

  There are 3D metal printers.  But for really good ones you are probably 
taking 6 figures.  

  But a manual lathe and mill can be purchased for $1K and you can buy metal... 
 

  I don’t think they are going to be able to draw a line, but let’s assume for 
a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world.  What would 
they say I wonder...  We can only rent sporks from the restaurant while dining. 
 No sharp pencils allowed?

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM
  To: AFMUG 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

  Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D printer 
actually does.  I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, download 
that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later.

  If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old 
bicycle, using a file and a hacksaw, would that be illegal? it's really no 
different... 


  On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

    On 8/1/18 8:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
    > I had all of the 3D files for an AR-15 years ago.
    > Widely available for download.
    > Easy to send to a 3D printer or a CNC milling machine.
    > The news is hyping this as something new.  I’ll bet those files I 
    > downloaded are at least 10 years old.
    > Give me a gun, micrometer, calipers, height gauge and I will re-create 
    > those files in a day.
    > What is the difference between thick walled tubing and a barrel?
    > Is a file that gives the design for a trigger or hammer going to be 
    > outlawed.
    > But what if you make cap guns...  Squire guns... airsoft or paint ball 
    > guns....
    > And are they going to outlaw just certain gun part files or combinations 
    > of files.... this seems totally impossible to outlaw.
    > 
    > 

    It seems like people think anyone can go buy a $90 entry level 3D 
    printer and crank out a fully functional weapon instantly. Well, 
    something for stabbing could be done in one print. I have to assume that 
    everyone who is freaking out has never seen a real 3D printer.

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