Rotflmao, apple had a product everybody wanted, even if they didnt know it
yet.
I guess i just come from a time before men wore skinny jeans, manbuns and
perfectly tailored lumberjack shirts that stay impeccably clean. Trucks
used to be a thing men used to do man shit. I assume instead of free
floormats these will come with a free set of anal beads since tools are now
more an accessory than a necessity of function.
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 5:41 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
> Steve let me introduce to this company called Apple.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 3:46 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A. Why does musk get a free pass every time he over promises and under
>> delivers?
>> B. Why would anybody with any modicum of testosterone buy an overpriced
>> truck that doesnt have real cargo capacity or the ability to actually haul
>> a load over distance
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 1:46 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, MPGe is useful for comparing electric vehicles, if nothing else.
>>>
>>> I agree, I got the impression that the cybertruck is mainly designed
>>> that way for functional reasons. Elon Musk even said that part of the
>>> reason is because they can't stamp the stainless steel.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 11:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that the calculus for MPGe is probably not realistic, but at
>>>> least it's something to hang your hat on for now. The latest firmware for
>>>> the model 3 comes in at ~~ 140 MPGe, so Tesla is apparently figuring out
>>>> how to squeeze more efficiency out of their vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I think one of the reasons for the radical shape of the cybertruck is
>>>> an effort to get some aerodynamics out of a platform that (with
>>>> conventional trucks) is very unfriendly toward aerodynamics. Another reason
>>>> might be because the material (stainless steel) is pretty difficult to
>>>> hydro-form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2019 8:53 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Considering the size of it, and the fact that it's mostly made out of
>>>> relatively thick stainless steel, I have a hard time believing they can get
>>>> 250 miles out of a 75kwh battery pack. Granted, Tesla has made huge
>>>> improvements in efficiency on the model S over it's lifespan, but 111 MPGe
>>>> would be the same as the current Model S, and it seems unlikely they'll get
>>>> that much better over the next couple of years. I think a 100kwh battery on
>>>> the base model is a lot more likely.
>>>>
>>>> MPGe isn't exactly an accurate way of comparing the cost of an electric
>>>> vs gas vehicle... my model S is rated at 89 MPGe, but if I figure out what
>>>> the actual cost per mile is compared to current gas prices here, it works
>>>> out to the equivalent of around 50 MPG. But not too long ago, that would've
>>>> been closer to 70 MPG (and most likely will be again before too long), and
>>>> the cost of electricity is way more consistent than gas.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:44 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was scouring the net trying to get a clue about what size the
>>>>> batteries would be on this thing. Only one publication speculated that the
>>>>> base model with 250 mile range (the $39,900 one) would have a ~~ 75KWh
>>>>> battery. Of course it is pure speculation, but that would result in about
>>>>> 111 MPGe. Can't do that with your diesel Silverado.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/24/2019 7:36 PM, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I figured out the design... Prototype name was the Cyberf117
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/24/19 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>
>>>>> Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without
>>>>> the nightmare of prototypes creeping through the alleys
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 10:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There may be prototypes roaming the streets as we speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/23/2019 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but the inside is comfy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-impressions-ride/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stabby Steve would like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was surprise they were taking it on test drives, I had assumed it
>>>>>> was a non functional prototype just for show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with a
>>>>>> $4K/cupholder CREDIT...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were
>>>>>> two of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah. Only $4K each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <
>>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders
>>>>>> finally, Sound system? More like 15...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>> > Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4
>>>>>> cylinder
>>>>>> > Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base
>>>>>> model
>>>>>> > and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
>>>>>> > options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> > audio as well.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer
>>>>>> makes
>>>>>> > probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----
>>>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>>>>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
>>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -----
>>>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>>>>>> > *To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>>>>> > Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
>>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>> > > That's $32,780...
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
>>>>>> > > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > That’s the current model.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Here’s the bill of sale:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > image1.jpeg
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >> That's $36k, 20% more...
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>>>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
>>>>>> > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>> > >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> > office.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned.
>>>>>> No issue.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> <image1.png>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> > >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> > year?
>>>>>> > >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think
>>>>>> they sell
>>>>>> > >>> remarkably bad.
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > >>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> > >>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> > >>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> > >>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>>>>>> > >>> <i...@avantwireless.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:
>>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
>>>>>> > Tundra for
>>>>>> > >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> > way they're
>>>>>> > >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone
>>>>>> else
>>>>>> > with a
>>>>>> > >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe
>>>>>> 30k
>>>>>> > when I see
>>>>>> > >>>> the bill of sale.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> > >>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> > >>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> > >>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt
>>>>>> Hoppes
>>>>>> > >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and
>>>>>> > $50-$60k is
>>>>>> > >>>> way too much. We
>>>>>> > >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> > years ago
>>>>>> > >>>> for $30k... outfitted
>>>>>> > >>>> well.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on
>>>>>> > their semi
>>>>>> > >>>> truck, as long as the
>>>>>> > >>>> > performance, specifications,
>>>>>> > reliability, utility
>>>>>> > >>>> are as promised, I
>>>>>> > >>>> > care much less about how it appears.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > That $40k price point is nice,
>>>>>> though
>>>>>> > I'd want at
>>>>>> > >>>> least the $50k to have
>>>>>> > >>>> > AWD.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like,
>>>>>> "OMG,
>>>>>> > that too
>>>>>> > >>>> much money for a truck."
>>>>>> > >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what
>>>>>> trucks
>>>>>> > cost. I
>>>>>> > >>>> haven't seen what the
>>>>>> > >>>> > electric ATV costs.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I also wonder what else changes
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> > the tiers.
>>>>>> > >>>> Adding more motors
>>>>>> > >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
>>>>>> > vehicle, so
>>>>>> > >>>> what's happening with the
>>>>>> > >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more
>>>>>> batteries
>>>>>> > >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
>>>>>> > >>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> > to pull a
>>>>>> > >>>> house with my daily
>>>>>> > >>>> > driver because I can always get
>>>>>> > something from the
>>>>>> > >>>> farm. I just want it
>>>>>> > >>>> > to be big enough to handle most
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> > Hell, even
>>>>>> > >>>> the 14k towing would
>>>>>> > >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and
>>>>>> trailer.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the
>>>>>> > EVs... how
>>>>>> > >>>> easy is it to add (or
>>>>>> > >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
>>>>>> > wheel, etc.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
>>>>>> > cover. Maybe
>>>>>> > >>>> Rivian had it
>>>>>> > >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> > to store a
>>>>>> > >>>> bunch of tools for a
>>>>>> > >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a
>>>>>> > ladder rack.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have
>>>>>> battery
>>>>>> > specs, but
>>>>>> > >>>> I suppose that could
>>>>>> > >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't
>>>>>> know if
>>>>>> > they need
>>>>>> > >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
>>>>>> > >>>> > their advertised performance
>>>>>> numbers.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All
>>>>>> > else equal,
>>>>>> > >>>> I'd probably prefer the
>>>>>> > >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
>>>>>> > actually bare
>>>>>> > >>>> out. What's the "mpg"
>>>>>> > >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be
>>>>>> MPkWh?
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > -----
>>>>>> > >>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>> > >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> > >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> > >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>> > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> > >>>> > The Brothers WISP
>>>>>> > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> > >>>> > <
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> > >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <
>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>>>>> Group"
>>>>>> > >>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:
>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019
>>>>>> 9:25:31 AM
>>>>>> > >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments
>>>>>> > from this
>>>>>> > >>>> crowd. Was everyone
>>>>>> > >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> > to place
>>>>>> > >>>> your pre-orders?
>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>> > like a
>>>>>> > >>>> cross between an El
>>>>>> > >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
>>>>>> > certainly was not
>>>>>> > >>>> what I expected when I
>>>>>> > >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> > electric
>>>>>> > >>>> truck. It sounds like
>>>>>> > >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be
>>>>>> fast,
>>>>>> > but how
>>>>>> > >>>> big a market is there
>>>>>> > >>>> > for a fast,
>>>>>>
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