We can bigger anal balls just for you. We can even make them
spiky for that extra thrill.
Teslas don't need to idle for heat or AC. They have a heat
exchanger that can run even when you're not in it (and provide a
controlled environment for your toothless companion).
You really don't need to ever go to a gas station, or even wait.
I would imagine that a company with a fleet of these would have
them all charged overnight and be able to go the day without
having to waste anyone's time at a gas station.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/25/2019 4:14 PM, Steve Jones
wrote:
at this point life has fucked me enough that id
need bowling ball size beads to gain anything from them
For one, a work truck idles for power, for heat and for AC.
You dont run a couple hundred miles or a few hours in a work
truck, then stop for hours to fuel it up, you stop at the gas
station, hit on the toothless broad at the counter, grab your
energy drink, look in the shitter mirror at yourself with
contempt and get on with your day
I
figured the anal beads would be the up sell for you.
Why do you think this truck is less capable?
From:
"Steve Jones" < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 5:56:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
Rotflmao, apple had a product everybody
wanted, even if they didnt know it yet.
I guess i just come from a time before men wore
skinny jeans, manbuns and perfectly tailored
lumberjack shirts that stay impeccably clean.
Trucks used to be a thing men used to do man shit.
I assume instead of free floormats these will come
with a free set of anal beads since tools are now
more an accessory than a necessity of function.
Steve let me introduce to this
company called Apple.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
A. Why does musk get a free
pass every time he over promises and under
delivers?
B. Why would anybody with any modicum
of testosterone buy an overpriced truck
that doesnt have real cargo capacity or
the ability to actually haul a load over
distance
Yeah, MPGe is useful for comparing
electric vehicles, if nothing else.
I agree, I got the
impression that the cybertruck is
mainly designed that way for
functional reasons. Elon Musk even
said that part of the reason is
because they can't stamp the
stainless steel.
I agree that the calculus for
MPGe is probably not
realistic, but at least it's
something to hang your hat on
for now. The latest firmware
for the model 3 comes in at ~~
140 MPGe, so Tesla is
apparently figuring out how to
squeeze more efficiency out of
their vehicles.
I think one of the reasons
for the radical shape of the
cybertruck is an effort to get
some aerodynamics out of a
platform that (with
conventional trucks) is very
unfriendly toward
aerodynamics. Another reason
might be because the material
(stainless steel) is pretty
difficult to hydro-form.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/25/2019 8:53 AM,
Mathew Howard wrote:
Considering the
size of it, and the fact
that it's mostly made out of
relatively thick stainless
steel, I have a hard time
believing they can get 250
miles out of a 75kwh battery
pack. Granted, Tesla has
made huge improvements in
efficiency on the model S
over it's lifespan, but 111
MPGe would be the same as
the current Model S, and it
seems unlikely they'll get
that much better over the
next couple of years. I
think a 100kwh battery on
the base model is a lot more
likely.
MPGe isn't exactly an
accurate way of comparing
the cost of an electric vs
gas vehicle... my model S
is rated at 89 MPGe, but
if I figure out what the
actual cost per mile is
compared to current gas
prices here, it works out
to the equivalent of
around 50 MPG. But not too
long ago, that would've
been closer to 70 MPG (and
most likely will be again
before too long), and the
cost of electricity is way
more consistent than gas.
I was scouring the
net trying to get a
clue about what size
the batteries would be
on this thing. Only
one publication
speculated that the
base model with 250
mile range (the
$39,900 one) would
have a ~~ 75KWh
battery. Of course it
is pure speculation,
but that would result
in about 111 MPGe.
Can't do that with
your diesel Silverado.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/24/2019 7:36
PM, Robert wrote:
I
think I figured out
the design...
Prototype name was
the Cyberf117
On 11/24/19 6:20
PM, Chuck McCown
wrote:
I want one
with a Boston
Scientific dog
in the back.
Sent:
Sunday,
November 24,
2019 4:46 PM
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
Cybertruck
Tesla
production
models roaming
the streets is
scary enough
without the
nightmare of
prototypes
creeping
through the
alleys
There may
be prototypes
roaming the
streets as we
speak.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On
11/23/2019
8:05 PM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but
the inside is
comfy.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-impressions-ride/
Stabby Steve would like it.
I was surprise they were taking it on test
drives, I had
assumed it was
a non
functional
prototype just
for show.
Oh, he
didn't opt for
the cupholder
delete option,
which comes
with a
$4K/cupholder
CREDIT...
On
11/22/19 4:53
PM, Bill
Prince wrote:
I was just
going by what
Robert said as
$8K, and I
figured there
were two of
them.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On
11/22/2019
4:51 PM, Tim
Hardy wrote:
Umm,
Bill - fake
news. Came in
my 2016 Cayman
GTS for nada…
Yeah.
Only $4K each.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On
11/22/2019
3:51 PM,
Mathew Howard
wrote:
woah!
you can get
cupholders in
a Porsche
these days?!
Having
gone through
Porsche
ordering hell,
8K gets you
cupholders
finally,
Sound system?
More like
15...
On 11/22/2019
01:04 PM, Josh
Luthman wrote:
> Toyota is
super nice
when it comes
to base
models. I got
a 4 cylinder
> Tacoma
(should have
gotten the v6,
it's way too
underpowered)
base model
> and it
has
touchscreen
with
bluetooth.
Power
windows/locks/etc.
>
> Porsche
on the other
hand requires
you have
something like
$8k in
> options
for that
feature.
Another $2k if
you want the
bluetooth to
do
> audio as
well.
>
> Josh
Luthman
> Office:
937-552-2340
> Direct:
937-552-2343
> 1100
Wayne St
> Suite
1337
> Troy, OH
45373
>
>
> On Fri,
Nov 22, 2019
at 3:56 PM
Mike Hammett
<af...@ics-il.net
>
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
wrote:
>
> It
was mostly a
dig at the
lowest priced
option a
manufacturer
makes
>
probably is
missing a
variety of
features one
is used to.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike
Hammett
>
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Computing
Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>
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>
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>
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>
*From: *"Josh
Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> *To:
*"AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group"
<af@af.afmug.com
>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>
*Sent:
*Friday,
November 22,
2019 2:53:33
PM
>
*Subject: *Re:
[AFMUG]
Cybertruck
>
> Yes
Mike, it's a
Toyota. Not
Pontiac.
>
> Josh
Luthman
>
Office:
937-552-2340
>
Direct:
937-552-2343
> 1100
Wayne St
> Suite
1337
> Troy,
OH 45373
>
>
> On
Fri, Nov 22,
2019 at 3:51
PM Mike
Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
>
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
wrote:
>
>
Does a $30k
truck come
with AC? Power
windows?
Radio?
>
>
>
>
-----
>
Mike Hammett
>
Intelligent
Computing
Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
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Internet
Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>
The Brothers
WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>
<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
>
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>
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>
*From: *"Matt
Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>
*To: *"Mathew
Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
>
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>,
"AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users
>
Group" <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>
*Sent:
*Friday,
November 22,
2019 2:49:15
PM
>
*Subject: *Re:
[AFMUG]
Cybertruck
>
>
OK... and?
Still a far
cry from $40
or $50.
>
>
On 11/22/19
3:42 PM,
Mathew Howard
wrote:
>
> That's
$32,780...
>
>
>
> On Fri,
Nov 22, 2019,
2:35 PM Matt
Hoppes
>
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
That’s the
current model.
>
>
>
>
Here’s the
bill of sale:
>
>
>
>
image1.jpeg
>
>
>
> On
Nov 22, 2019,
at 1:55 PM,
Josh Luthman
>
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>
>
wrote:
>
>
>
>>
That's $36k,
20% more...
>
>>
>
>>
Josh Luthman
>
>>
Office:
937-552-2340
>
>>
Direct:
937-552-2343
>
>>
1100 Wayne St
>
>>
Suite 1337
>
>>
Troy, OH 45373
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
On Fri, Nov
22, 2019 at
1:08 PM Matt
Hoppes
>
>>
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>
>>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>>
wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the
>
office.
>
>>
>
>> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No
issue.
>
>>
>
>> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>
>>
>
>> <image1.png>
>
>>
>
>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>
>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
wrote:
>
>>
>
>>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a
>
year?
>
>>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they
sell
>
>>> remarkably bad.
>
>>>
>
>>> Josh Luthman
>
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>
>>> Suite 1337
>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>
>>> <i...@avantwireless.com
>
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
>
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>>
wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
>
>>>
>
>>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
>
Tundra for
>
>>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no
>
way they're
>
>>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone
else
>
with a
>
>>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k
>
when I see
>
>>>> the bill of sale.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>
>>>> Suite 1337
>
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt
Hoppes
>
>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>
>>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>>
wrote:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and
>
$50-$60k is
>
>>>> way too much. We
>
>>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
>
years ago
>
>>>> for $30k... outfitted
>
>>>> well.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett
wrote:
>
>>>> > To be consistent with my feelings
on
>
their semi
>
>>>> truck, as long as the
>
>>>> > performance, specifications,
>
reliability,
utility
>
>>>> are as promised, I
>
>>>> > care much less about how it
appears.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > That $40k price point is nice,
though
>
I'd want at
>
>>>> least the $50k to have
>
>>>> > AWD.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I've seen people say stuff like,
"OMG,
>
that too
>
>>>> much money for a truck."
>
>>>> > Clearly they have no idea what
trucks
>
cost. I
>
>>>> haven't seen what the
>
>>>> > electric ATV costs.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I also wonder what else changes
between
>
the tiers.
>
>>>> Adding more motors
>
>>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
>
vehicle, so
>
>>>> what's happening with the
>
>>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more
batteries
>
>>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
>
>>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't
need
>
to pull a
>
>>>> house with my daily
>
>>>> > driver because I can always get
>
something from
the
>
>>>> farm. I just want it
>
>>>> > to be big enough to handle most
things.
>
Hell, even
>
>>>> the 14k towing would
>
>>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and
trailer.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I wonder how trailers work with
the
>
EVs... how
>
>>>> easy is it to add (or
>
>>>> > get the option for) gooseneck,
fifth
>
wheel, etc.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I do like the hard, lockable
tonneau
>
cover. Maybe
>
>>>> Rivian had it
>
>>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice
place
>
to store a
>
>>>> bunch of tools for a
>
>>>> > work truck, though no place to add
a
>
ladder rack.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have
battery
>
specs, but
>
>>>> I suppose that could
>
>>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't
know if
>
they need
>
>>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
>
>>>> > their advertised performance
numbers.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > Weight would be nice to know as
well.
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I'm not surprised on the design.
All
>
else equal,
>
>>>> I'd probably prefer the
>
>>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
>
actually bare
>
>>>> out. What's the "mpg"
>
>>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd
be MPkWh?
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > -----
>
>>>> > Mike Hammett
>
>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>
>>>> >
>
>>>>
>
<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
>>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange
>
<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>
>>>> >
>
>>>>
>
<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>
>>>> > The Brothers WISP
>
<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>
>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> >
>
>>>>
>
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>
>>>> >
>
>>>>
>
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>
>>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
>
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>
>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com
>
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>>
>
>>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group"
>
>>>> <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
>
>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019
9:25:31 AM
>
>>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I was expecting to see some
comments
>
from this
>
>>>> crowd. Was everyone
>
>>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running
out
>
to place
>
>>>> your pre-orders?
>
>>>> >
>
>>>> > I think I saw one comment that it
looked
>
like a
>
>>>> cross between an El
>
>>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
>
certainly was
not
>
>>>> what I expected when I
>
>>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out
an
>
electric
>
>>>> truck. It sounds like
>
>>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be
fast,
>
but how
>
>>>> big a market is there
>
>>>> > for a fast,
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