INB4 anal beads at the next AFMUG.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 7:35 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Only a very short few years ago was I even ever aware of such beads when
> my youngest daughter made reference of yanking on anal beads like you are
> trying to start a chainsaw. I think she was trying to shock me but I was
> unaware of the idea so it did not work at the time.
>
> (This was my pure (so I thought) , youngest, Mormon daughter BTW).
>
> Quite a revelation and quantum jump in worldliness for me. Not that I am
> pure as the driven snow. They refer to me as a Jack Mormon in Utah as I
> will now and then have a beer.
>
> But yeah, beads... not even something conjured in the imagination of my
> youth.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2019 5:21 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
>
> We can bigger anal balls just for you. We can even make them spiky for
> that extra thrill.
>
> Teslas don't need to idle for heat or AC. They have a heat exchanger that
> can run even when you're not in it (and provide a controlled environment
> for your toothless companion).
>
> You really don't need to ever go to a gas station, or even wait. I would
> imagine that a company with a fleet of these would have them all charged
> overnight and be able to go the day without having to waste anyone's time
> at a gas station.
>
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 11/25/2019 4:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> at this point life has fucked me enough that id need bowling ball size
> beads to gain anything from them
>
> For one, a work truck idles for power, for heat and for AC. You dont run a
> couple hundred miles or a few hours in a work truck, then stop for hours to
> fuel it up, you stop at the gas station, hit on the toothless broad at the
> counter, grab your energy drink, look in the shitter mirror at yourself
> with contempt and get on with your day
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:03 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> I figured the anal beads would be the up sell for you.
>>
>>
>> Why do you think this truck is less capable?
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Monday, November 25, 2019 5:56:49 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>
>> Rotflmao, apple had a product everybody wanted, even if they didnt know
>> it yet.
>> I guess i just come from a time before men wore skinny jeans, manbuns and
>> perfectly tailored lumberjack shirts that stay impeccably clean. Trucks
>> used to be a thing men used to do man shit. I assume instead of free
>> floormats these will come with a free set of anal beads since tools are now
>> more an accessory than a necessity of function.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 5:41 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve let me introduce to this company called Apple.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 3:46 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A. Why does musk get a free pass every time he over promises and under
>>>> delivers?
>>>> B. Why would anybody with any modicum of testosterone buy an overpriced
>>>> truck that doesnt have real cargo capacity or the ability to actually haul
>>>> a load over distance
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 1:46 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, MPGe is useful for comparing electric vehicles, if nothing else.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, I got the impression that the cybertruck is mainly designed
>>>>> that way for functional reasons. Elon Musk even said that part of the
>>>>> reason is because they can't stamp the stainless steel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 11:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that the calculus for MPGe is probably not realistic, but at
>>>>>> least it's something to hang your hat on for now. The latest firmware for
>>>>>> the model 3 comes in at ~~ 140 MPGe, so Tesla is apparently figuring out
>>>>>> how to squeeze more efficiency out of their vehicles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think one of the reasons for the radical shape of the cybertruck is
>>>>>> an effort to get some aerodynamics out of a platform that (with
>>>>>> conventional trucks) is very unfriendly toward aerodynamics. Another
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> might be because the material (stainless steel) is pretty difficult to
>>>>>> hydro-form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/25/2019 8:53 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering the size of it, and the fact that it's mostly made out of
>>>>>> relatively thick stainless steel, I have a hard time believing they can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> 250 miles out of a 75kwh battery pack. Granted, Tesla has made huge
>>>>>> improvements in efficiency on the model S over it's lifespan, but 111
>>>>>> MPGe
>>>>>> would be the same as the current Model S, and it seems unlikely they'll
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> that much better over the next couple of years. I think a 100kwh battery
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the base model is a lot more likely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MPGe isn't exactly an accurate way of comparing the cost of an
>>>>>> electric vs gas vehicle... my model S is rated at 89 MPGe, but if I
>>>>>> figure
>>>>>> out what the actual cost per mile is compared to current gas prices here,
>>>>>> it works out to the equivalent of around 50 MPG. But not too long ago,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> would've been closer to 70 MPG (and most likely will be again before too
>>>>>> long), and the cost of electricity is way more consistent than gas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:44 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was scouring the net trying to get a clue about what size the
>>>>>>> batteries would be on this thing. Only one publication speculated that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> base model with 250 mile range (the $39,900 one) would have a ~~ 75KWh
>>>>>>> battery. Of course it is pure speculation, but that would result in
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 111 MPGe. Can't do that with your diesel Silverado.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/24/2019 7:36 PM, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I figured out the design... Prototype name was the
>>>>>>> Cyberf117
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/24/19 6:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without
>>>>>>> the nightmare of prototypes creeping through the alleys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 10:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There may be prototypes roaming the streets as we speak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/23/2019 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but the inside is comfy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-impressions-ride/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stabby Steve would like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was surprise they were taking it on test drives, I had assumed it
>>>>>>>> was a non functional prototype just for show.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Robert
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with
>>>>>>>> a $4K/cupholder CREDIT...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there
>>>>>>>> were two of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah. Only $4K each.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <
>>>>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders
>>>>>>>> finally, Sound system? More like 15...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4
>>>>>>>> cylinder
>>>>>>>> > Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered)
>>>>>>>> base model
>>>>>>>> > and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
>>>>>>>> > options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth
>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>> > audio as well.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a
>>>>>>>> manufacturer makes
>>>>>>>> > probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -----
>>>>>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>>>>>>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
>>>>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>>> af...@ics-il.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > -----
>>>>>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>>>>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>>>>>>>> > *To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave
>>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>>> > Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>>>>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
>>>>>>>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > That's $32,780...
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
>>>>>>>> > > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>>>> > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > That’s the current model.
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > Here’s the bill of sale:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > image1.jpeg
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>>>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > >> That's $36k, 20% more...
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
>>>>>>>> > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>>>> > >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back
>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>> > office.
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never
>>>>>>>> owned. No issue.
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> <image1.png>
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>> > >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>> > >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot
>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>> > year?
>>>>>>>> > >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think
>>>>>>>> they sell
>>>>>>>> > >>> remarkably bad.
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > >>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> > >>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> > >>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> > >>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>>>>>>>> > >>> <i...@avantwireless.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:
>>>>>>>> i...@avantwireless.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new,
>>>>>>>> untitled,
>>>>>>>> > Tundra for
>>>>>>>> > >>>> $30k, Especially with options.
>>>>>>>> There's no
>>>>>>>> > way they're
>>>>>>>> > >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone
>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>> > with a
>>>>>>>> > >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe
>>>>>>>> 30k
>>>>>>>> > when I see
>>>>>>>> > >>>> the bill of sale.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> > >>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt
>>>>>>>> Hoppes
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> > $50-$60k is
>>>>>>>> > >>>> way too much. We
>>>>>>>> > >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> > years ago
>>>>>>>> > >>>> for $30k... outfitted
>>>>>>>> > >>>> well.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> > their semi
>>>>>>>> > >>>> truck, as long as the
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > performance, specifications,
>>>>>>>> > reliability, utility
>>>>>>>> > >>>> are as promised, I
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > care much less about how it
>>>>>>>> appears.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > That $40k price point is nice,
>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>> > I'd want at
>>>>>>>> > >>>> least the $50k to have
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > AWD.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like,
>>>>>>>> "OMG,
>>>>>>>> > that too
>>>>>>>> > >>>> much money for a truck."
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what
>>>>>>>> trucks
>>>>>>>> > cost. I
>>>>>>>> > >>>> haven't seen what the
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > electric ATV costs.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I also wonder what else changes
>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> > the tiers.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Adding more motors
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
>>>>>>>> > vehicle, so
>>>>>>>> > >>>> what's happening with the
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more
>>>>>>>> batteries
>>>>>>>> > >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> > to pull a
>>>>>>>> > >>>> house with my daily
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > driver because I can always get
>>>>>>>> > something from the
>>>>>>>> > >>>> farm. I just want it
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > to be big enough to handle most
>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>> > Hell, even
>>>>>>>> > >>>> the 14k towing would
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and
>>>>>>>> trailer.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> > EVs... how
>>>>>>>> > >>>> easy is it to add (or
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck,
>>>>>>>> fifth
>>>>>>>> > wheel, etc.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable
>>>>>>>> tonneau
>>>>>>>> > cover. Maybe
>>>>>>>> > >>>> Rivian had it
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice
>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>> > to store a
>>>>>>>> > >>>> bunch of tools for a
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > work truck, though no place to
>>>>>>>> add a
>>>>>>>> > ladder rack.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have
>>>>>>>> battery
>>>>>>>> > specs, but
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I suppose that could
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't
>>>>>>>> know if
>>>>>>>> > they need
>>>>>>>> > >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > their advertised performance
>>>>>>>> numbers.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design.
>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>> > else equal,
>>>>>>>> > >>>> I'd probably prefer the
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
>>>>>>>> > actually bare
>>>>>>>> > >>>> out. What's the "mpg"
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd
>>>>>>>> be MPkWh?
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > -----
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
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>>>>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
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>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
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>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > The Brothers WISP
>>>>>>>> > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > <
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <
>>>>>>>> af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>>>>>>> Group"
>>>>>>>> > >>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:
>>>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019
>>>>>>>> 9:25:31 AM
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I was expecting to see some
>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>> > from this
>>>>>>>> > >>>> crowd. Was everyone
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or
>>>>>>>> running out
>>>>>>>> > to place
>>>>>>>> > >>>> your pre-orders?
>>>>>>>> > >>>> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it
>>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>>> > like a
>>>>>>>> > >>>> cross between an El
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
>>>>>>>> > certainly was not
>>>>>>>> > >>>> what I expected when I
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring
>>>>>>>> out an
>>>>>>>> > electric
>>>>>>>> > >>>> truck. It sounds like
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed
>>>>>>>> be fast,
>>>>>>>> > but how
>>>>>>>> > >>>> big a market is there
>>>>>>>> > >>>> > for a fast,
>>>>>>>>
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