That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50 miles of 
range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors aren’t efficient at high 
speeds. 

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> For that police chase article, the department actually updated and said the 
> car wasn't fully charged the night before from the officer who used it last. 
> He forgot to plug it in so the car never started the shift with a full 
> charge. Not the Teslas fault.
> 
> https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-cruiser-runs-out-battery-chase-user-error/
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>> Matt,
>> 
>> You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets 
>> worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps and higher loads as well. 
>> 
>> In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in the 
>> winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling behind our chevy, we get about 
>> 10mpg compared to our 19mpg without it. 
>> 
>> I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the same things 
>> that affect battery range. 
>> 
>> Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of most peoples 
>> daily miles. I can day our work vans definitely don't drive more than the 
>> 300 to 500 mile range the truck will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with 
>> normal weather and in the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care of 
>> my daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in north 
>> Dakota. It's on their to do list. 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes 
>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>> Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck.
>>> 
>>> This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric 
>>> truck:
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html
>>> 
>>> “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the charge, 
>>> but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation, going over 110 
>>> miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down faster,” Ms. Bosques 
>>> said.
>>> 
>>> The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as soon as he started 
>>> the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call off the chase.
>>> 
>>> Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go, and you start up 
>>> a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and suddenly get 
>>> stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the load of 
>>> pulling up the hill.
>>> 
>>> Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the same no matter what.
>>> Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and usage.
>>> 
>>> On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> > Depends on distance.  My car is always charged.  So I always have 200 
>>> > miles on the tank.  At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to 
>>> > be charged.  Local police departments are making Teslas work.  Just takes 
>>> > a different mindset.  No maintenance and a truck good for a half million 
>>> > miles with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge with solar).
>>> 
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