If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty refreshing, and
the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me.

On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated like
> science fact to back up their agenda...   Ethics in Medicine is just about
> dead, put another nail in the coffin..
>
> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 million
> confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the iceberg,
> and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I
> don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would believe
> something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
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> What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be optimistic
> about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have
> ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people
> die.  They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for
> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it were working,
> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are
> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the
> infection.  And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.
>
>
>
> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to treat
> it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
>
>
>
> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was that
> even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges
> including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine
> production.  Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population.  And not
> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats.  And the interesting part
> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing
> beer.
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
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>
> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember,
> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce
> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community
> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
>
> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1
> million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1
> million, I would be more encouraged.
>
> bp
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> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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> Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...
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