It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all private
corporations though, especially in situations like this.
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
> Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of free
> speech protects the government from stifling speech...private citizens and
> corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech.
>
> Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the constitution
> says.
>
> YMMV
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the stifling
>> of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time with things
>> the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but the fringe at
>> both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering to lent now.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whoa, google took it down? That's amazing. I wonder what the process
>>> that resulted in that was?
>>>
>>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it
>>> down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up as
>>> opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with the
>>>> "numbers" is totally fictitious...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty refreshing,
>>>> and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated
>>>>> like science fact to back up their agenda... Ethics in Medicine is just
>>>>> about dead, put another nail in the coffin..
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 million
>>>>> confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the iceberg,
>>>>> and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I
>>>>> don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would believe
>>>>> something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be optimistic
>>>>> about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have
>>>>> ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people
>>>>> die. They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for
>>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working. Even if it were working,
>>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are
>>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the
>>>>> infection. And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
>>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to
>>>>> treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was
>>>>> that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges
>>>>> including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine
>>>>> production. Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
>>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population. And not
>>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats. And the interesting
>>>>> part
>>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing
>>>>> beer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
>>>>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember,
>>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce
>>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community
>>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1
>>>>> million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1
>>>>> million, I would be more encouraged.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me. I hope...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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