https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndL0uSmKTQU

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 12:19 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the stifling
> of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time with things
> the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but the fringe at
> both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering to lent now.
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>
>> Whoa, google took it down?  That's amazing.   I wonder what the process
>> that resulted in that was?
>>
>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it
>> down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up as
>> opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong.
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with the
>>> "numbers" is totally fictitious...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty refreshing,
>>> and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated
>>>> like science fact to back up their agenda...   Ethics in Medicine is just
>>>> about dead, put another nail in the coffin..
>>>>
>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 million
>>>> confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the iceberg,
>>>> and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I
>>>> don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would believe
>>>> something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be optimistic
>>>> about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have
>>>> ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people
>>>> die.  They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for
>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it were working,
>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are
>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the
>>>> infection.  And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to treat
>>>> it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was
>>>> that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges
>>>> including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine
>>>> production.  Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population.  And not
>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats.  And the interesting part
>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing
>>>> beer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
>>>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember,
>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce
>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community
>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1
>>>> million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1
>>>> million, I would be more encouraged.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>>
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: image]
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