I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it
down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up as
opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong.

On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with the
> "numbers" is totally fictitious...
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> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
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> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty refreshing,
> and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me.
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> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
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>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated like
>> science fact to back up their agenda...   Ethics in Medicine is just about
>> dead, put another nail in the coffin..
>>
>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 million
>> confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the iceberg,
>> and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 million. I
>> don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would believe
>> something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just speculation.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
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>> What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be optimistic
>> about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they mainly have
>> ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 70-80% of the people
>> die.  They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy for
>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it were working,
>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they are
>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the
>> infection.  And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.
>>
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>>
>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to treat
>> it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
>>
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>>
>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was that
>> even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges
>> including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine
>> production.  Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population.  And not
>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats.  And the interesting part
>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing
>> beer.
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>
>>
>>
>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. Remember,
>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce
>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical community
>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
>>
>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over 1
>> million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1
>> million, I would be more encouraged.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
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>>
>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...
>>
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>> [image: image]
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