as long as your house doesnt integrate into multiple facets of society, including government thats 100% true
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:56 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > You can always use gab.com the twitter alternative that champions free > speech on their platform. > > Honestly if I build a house and invite you to come over for free to hang > out and you start saying things I don’t like while inside my house I should > be and I am entitled to kick you out of my house or make you shut up etc. > > now replace house with “social media platform” > > -Sean > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:15 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> yep, and your message can be removed in an instant if it does not comply >> with the narrative >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:06 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> Not really. Today you can get your message out to the world with a >>> tweet. >>> How would you have been able to do that 100 years ago? >>> >>> *From:* Steven Kenney >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:54 AM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>> >>> I sense overwhelming sarcasm. >>> >>> -- >>> Steven Kenney >>> Network Operations Manager >>> WaveDirect Telecommunications >>> http://www.wavedirect.net >>> (519)737-WAVE (9283) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:14:10 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>> >>> 100 years ago it was newspapers and they only printed what they wanted >>> you to hear. Things are much better now. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Jason McKemie < >>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>> >>> It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all private >>> corporations though, especially in situations like this. >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> >>>> Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of free >>>> speech protects the government from stifling speech...private citizens and >>>> corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech. >>>> >>>> Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the >>>> constitution says. >>>> >>>> YMMV >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the >>>>> stifling of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time >>>>> with things the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but >>>>> the >>>>> fringe at both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering to >>>>> lent now. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Whoa, google took it down? That's amazing. I wonder what the >>>>>> process that resulted in that was? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took >>>>>> it down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it >>>>>> up >>>>>> as opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with >>>>>>> the "numbers" is totally fictitious... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty >>>>>>> refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated >>>>>>>> like science fact to back up their agenda... Ethics in Medicine is >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> about dead, put another nail in the coffin.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1 >>>>>>>> million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> iceberg, and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80 >>>>>>>> million. I don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would >>>>>>>> believe something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just >>>>>>>> speculation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are the treatments that are now working? I try to be >>>>>>>> optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they >>>>>>>> mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if >>>>>>>> 70-80% of >>>>>>>> the people die. They keep doing that because it’s the textbook >>>>>>>> therapy for >>>>>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working. Even if it were working, >>>>>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the >>>>>>>> infection. And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to >>>>>>>> treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read >>>>>>>> was that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many >>>>>>>> challenges including the sensitization problem), then they have to >>>>>>>> scale up >>>>>>>> vaccine production. Right now most vaccines are just for each new >>>>>>>> wave of >>>>>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population. And >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats. And the interesting >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing >>>>>>>> beer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill >>>>>>>> Prince >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM >>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a >>>>>>>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. >>>>>>>> Remember, >>>>>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to >>>>>>>> reduce >>>>>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical >>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over >>>>>>>> 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1 >>>>>>>> million, I would be more encouraged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me. 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