lol. we have the ability to be our own starlink too. you have any spare
shekels ?


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:34 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> But... you have the ability to be your own twitter, or FB or Afmug...
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:14 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>
> yep, and your message can be removed in an instant if it does not comply
> with the narrative
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:06 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Not really.  Today you can get your message out to the world with a tweet.
>> How would you have been able to do that 100 years ago?
>>
>> *From:* Steven Kenney
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:54 AM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>
>> I sense overwhelming sarcasm.
>>
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>> *From: *"chuck" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2020 8:14:10 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>
>> 100 years ago it was newspapers and they only printed what they wanted
>> you to hear.  Things are much better now.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's a problem when the main conduits for communication are all private
>> corporations though, especially in situations like this.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Most people don’t realize that the constitutional protection of free
>>> speech protects the government from stifling speech...private citizens and
>>> corporations are not required to protect anyone’s speech.
>>>
>>> Not saying I agree or disagree with it, just stating what the
>>> constitution says.
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 PM Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Being "not evil" I guess. Another copy has been put up, but the
>>>> stifling of free speech is a bit alarming. They do this all of the time
>>>> with things the left deems inappropriate. I'm pretty much centrist, but the
>>>> fringe at both sides is absolutely abhorrent, I'll go back to adhering to
>>>> lent now.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whoa, google took it down?  That's amazing.   I wonder what the
>>>>> process that resulted in that was?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/20 8:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll watch it again, but it's a bit difficult now since Google took it
>>>>> down. Doesn't help the case that they feel like they need to cover it up 
>>>>> as
>>>>> opposed to just tearing it apart if it is so wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's was pitched that way but you look at what they are doing with
>>>>>> the "numbers" is totally fictitious...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/27/20 7:01 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we're thinking of the same video I thought it was pretty
>>>>>> refreshing, and the overall gist of the thing seemed pretty sound to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, speculation that a couple of doctors in Kern County CA treated
>>>>>>> like science fact to back up their agenda...   Ethics in Medicine is 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> about dead, put another nail in the coffin..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/27/20 12:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well... here we are one week later, and we just ticked over 1
>>>>>>> million confirmed infections in the US. Let's hope that's the tip of the
>>>>>>> iceberg, and that the actual infections is in the neighborhood of 50-80
>>>>>>> million. I don't believe the number is actually that high, but I would
>>>>>>> believe something around 5-8 million. Either way, it is still just
>>>>>>> speculation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 9:33 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are the treatments that are now working?  I try to be
>>>>>>> optimistic about antivirals and convalescent plasma, but right now they
>>>>>>> mainly have ventilators, which honestly aren’t very successful if 
>>>>>>> 70-80% of
>>>>>>> the people die.  They keep doing that because it’s the textbook therapy 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> respiratory distress, but it ain’t working.  Even if it were working,
>>>>>>> ventilators are not a treatment, they don’t reverse the disease, they 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> just a measure to get you oxygen while your body hopefully fights the
>>>>>>> infection.  And then you have the people experiencing kidney failure and
>>>>>>> needing dialysis, they’re not sure if the damage is permanent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you’re right that the medical community has learned how to
>>>>>>> treat it, but I haven’t heard the evidence for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding a vaccine, one interesting piece of information I read was
>>>>>>> that even if they develop a successful and safe vaccine (many challenges
>>>>>>> including the sensitization problem), then they have to scale up vaccine
>>>>>>> production.  Right now most vaccines are just for each new wave of
>>>>>>> schoolchildren, this would have to be for the entire population.  And 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> in chicken eggs, it would have to be in big vats.  And the interesting 
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> is they could repurpose fermentation tanks used for things like brewing
>>>>>>> beer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time will tell based on whether it actually starts declining in a
>>>>>>> meaningful way, or whether we're going to bump along for a bit. 
>>>>>>> Remember,
>>>>>>> the goal was to flatten the curve; it wasn't necessarily going to reduce
>>>>>>> the number of infections. I get the impression that the medical 
>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>> has learned a lot about how to actually treat it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's see where we are a week from today (April 27). If we are over
>>>>>>> 1 million infections, this may be going a while yet. If it is under 1
>>>>>>> million, I would be more encouraged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/20/2020 8:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks a bit Gaussian to me.  I hope...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <image001.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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