After all, where would Microsoft be if everyone judged them solely on their first product?

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On 10/30/2015 10:57 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
You can't blame a vendor for a crappy product if they're replaced it with a product that isn't crappy.



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*From: *"Sorin Esanu" <so...@evox.ro>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, October 30, 2015 12:48:57 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras

Please compare the specs and see what they can do and cannot do.

As far as how it compares with Ubnt, I've tested as some point the unifi
video cameras and they were pretty bad as far as quality, lacking some
basic features (IR filter). It seemed to me like a beta product that
should have never be release to the public. As I understand they refined
it, but still, Hikvision is big, with a lot of experience in making just
video surveillance products. Even so, our Hikvision fleet serves us well
and I would not go with Ubnt.

There is also the issue with interoperability: Hikvision cameras are
supported on countless surveillance software and hardware (NVRs);
Hikvision NVRs are supporting countless other cameras (other
manufacturers) and even ONVIF and RTSP. That gives you the possibility
to install a 3rd party product, in case you need it. I don't know if you
can say that about Ubnt. Is that important? Well... if you have 1-2
cameras, probably no. When you go to larger projects, absolutely. Access
control system that interconnect with video surveillance, professional
analytics software, ONVIF support...

I like Ubnt as far as radios, but that's where it stops for me.

On 10/30/2015 6:33 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:
> I am new to this so I have question, when you say following:
>
>> + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
> What does it mean to us?
>
> To me any camera with good quality where you can see faces and/or license plate and record it or send via email etc.
>
> So what does the mentioned camera does more which grandstream and/or ubnt does not?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tushar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sorin Esanu
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 10:30 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security cameras
>
> Hikvision DS-2CD2632F-I(S) or DS-2CD2732F-I(S)
> + cheap
> + real surveillance camera vs things like Granstream or Ubnt 3Mpx
> + varifocal on board microSD for recording (you do not need NVR!) very
> + good video quality IR included, pretty efective for distances up to
> + 10m (their marketing
> says 30m. BS!)
> + app for mobile, tablet, pc. I can be used for live view or search
> recordings on SD camera
> + POE & 12VDC
>
> - DWDR, but I guess you cannot ask for true WDR in a 200$ camera
>
> It's basically one of the cheapest true surveillance cameras you can get for ~$200. You can get them even cheaper than that, if you get quantity. > They are also selling very nice NVRs, with decent prices, that can work flawless with their cameras.
>
>
>
> On 10/30/2015 3:05 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> I am constructing a new building and I need a security camera system
>> which has DVR functionality and be remotely reachable, preferably via
>> mobile. I have had the cheap QSee Sams system and although functional
>> it is a pretty big disappointment from most perspectives.
>> I know a lot of people use and install these.
>>
>> Are there any suggestions for systems?



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