Yeah, the old AC APs were 802.11ac 1st wave, and may actually have been the first 802.11ac to market. Those sucked. New ones are better, but the throughput isn't as high. The tradeoff is good multi device performance, and higher ability to deploy more per location without too much self interference. Oh and nicer mounting locations :P On Jan 2, 2016 1:18 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
> That's what I had for a while, a Mikrotik 2011 series and a UBNT AC AP > commercial grade connected to their top of the line UBNT 48 port PoE switch. > > In theory it worked well, in practice the AP failed at least once a month > and the coverage was sucky. > > I replaced it with a Nighthawk X6 and coverage improved dramatically and > so did throughput. > > Unfortunately, the Nighthawk dropped to about 1/3 capacity when any > feature was turned on that did packet inspection. > And their filtering software sucked and their interface was from the 90's. > > So I just barely purchased myself the top end ASUS mothership. > > So far the throughput is good, though it does drop from 950Mbps download > to about 905Mbps download. > > BUT packet inspection features don't seem to decrease the speed much, > maybe down to high 800's. > > So far, this is the best all in one solution I have found. > > Apple might be better, but I'm saving that as my last ditch effort. > I like Apple products, but I know I will get sucked in to their whole > eco-sphere and probably start purchasing Macbooks and spending 1000's of > dollars just for the hell of it at that point, lol! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:52 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream > > You know... I put a wired MT in the back room where our hub is, and a > unifi WAP in the center of the house, and we never seem to have problems > here. > > I've got a buddy that lives in town, and he has gone through a half dozen > or so different Linksees, dleenks, and so on, and this morning he is asking > me for a "recommended router". I'm inclined to set up what we have, so I > can stop listening to his whining. (He's not on our service, he's on the > evil empire's network). > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 1/1/2016 9:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed Mikrotik > > from us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble > > free for us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters. I think they look > > at the pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let > > someone else deal with it. Most still fall into either the "I can buy > > one at Walmart for $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and > > letting the sales guy talk me into the $250 router because I like > > shopping for expensive toys" camp. And people still look at the > > humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown box and think it can't > > possibly match their big black AC1900 router that looks like a weapon > > from Star Wars. > > > > The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and > > supply the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and > > then what to do about the people who still want to put their own Star > > Wars router behind it. > > > > It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are now > > designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than > > the Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems. > > I replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this > > week and they went from having total dead spots in parts of their > > house on both 2.4 and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance > > everywhere including the basement. Their minds were boggled at this > > little white box with no external antennas blowing away the big black > > monster. > > > > Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except > > their low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate. I see people > > starting to trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link. But > > too many of my customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and > > they seem to come back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I > > particularly hate the model that only has 1 LED on the whole router > > and you have to interpret the color and number of flashes, it's like > > figuring out what R2D2 is saying. What's that R2? No link on port 3? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Simon Westlake > > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream > > > > I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they > > seem to be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that > > none of them work properly and only last a few months. I had to > > replace my router recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of > > the guys I work with just replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, > > and all of his minor problems went away. > > > > I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to > > end users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many > > issues are caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide > > better service to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a > > DD-WRT or Mikrotik router and setup some shaping on the client side with > SFQ. > > They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering > > when their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when > > they're watching Daredevil in 4K. > > > > On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy Belkin > >> routers. I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming. > >> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! > >> > > > >
