You're basically taking about one of the new Ubiquiti EdgePoint variants. DC and fiber in to router/switch, multiple POE ports out. On Jan 2, 2016 10:33 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
> No, I mean a single-port media converter and a PoE injector in a box that > goes on the tower next to the radio. A 2-3 foot cat5 out to the radio's > POE+data port. > > Fiber + power coming from the shelter. A DC input block. An SFP or even a > fixed optical interface would be fine. 24-48VDC powers this box and also > sends POE out of the RJ45 port w/ jumpers to select pair polarity like a > GIGE-APC-POE. Kinda parasitic power like Forrest's SyncPipe Parasitic's. > > I'm thinking it would also be pretty cool not only for stuff like the > AF24, but think about 450 or 450i APs too. If it could also pass > sync-over-power, you'd have a very usable product. I know at one point > Forrest was talking about doing a SyncInjector module that only put out > power+sync, no ethernet. The idea was to feed it into your GIGE-APC-POE > cards. > > Most of the -48 licensed stuff already has DC + fiber input, so this > wouldn't be for that. I guess it would work for radios like the Exalt > ExtendAir G2 which is copper PoE only, and either secondary copper GigE or > special order T1/E1, but the main port is 802.3at POE. > > On 1/2/2016 10:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > No, that is a different project. > > So you want to inject POE into an ethernet circuit? Both of my POE surge > suppressors will do that. > > *From:* George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2016 9:07 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream > > Is that the media converter thing you were talking about? > > Can you make something like that in reverse? Say I have a hybrid > power+fiber cable up the tower and I want to power up a 20-56VDC radio. The > most common thing I'm thinking of here is an AF24, because UBNT decided not > to put an SFP and a DC input block on the damn things. For one or two > radios, at different heights I might add, throwing something like a Netonix > switch up there doesn't make sense. Plus they're PTPs that I want to go > straight into physical router interfaces. The media converter should also > pass through the link status in both directions. I have some cheap-o > Startech media converters that don't do that, even though there's a dip > switch for it, but it doesn't work, and it pisses me off. > > On 1/2/2016 9:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > It is my APC-POE surge suppressor combined with a 48 to 12 VDC buck > converter. Right now it is a kludge. If it powers up the 844E OK under > max load while being powered from a netonix switch I will combine the two > circuits onto a board and look for an appropriate case for it. > > *From:* Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2016 7:30 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream > > > Can you share more ingo on this chuck? The poe adapter. > On Jan 1, 2016 4:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Yep, I am building a POE adapter for the gigacenter too... >> Love their flow software. >> >> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> >> *Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 2:24 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >> >> Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I hear you. >>> >>> My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my customers. >>> >>> Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim. >>> >>> I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but I'm finding >>> that it's still best to get a really nice $100-$300+ single Wireless AC >>> router and place it in the center of the house. >>> >>> What I would really like is a good split solution with routing in the >>> head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge mode in one or two places in the >>> house. >>> >>> But that doesn't seem to exist. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >>> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>> >>> I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a managed Mikrotik >>> from us, we charge $5/mo for a RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble free >>> for us once we tweak a couple WiFi parameters. I think they look at the >>> pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide to let someone else >>> deal with it. Most still fall into either the "I can buy one at Walmart >>> for $50" camp or the "I like going to Best Buy and letting the sales guy >>> talk me into the >>> $250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys" camp. And >>> people still look at the humble little white Mikrotik in its plain brown >>> box and think it can't possibly match their big black AC1900 router that >>> looks like a weapon from Star Wars. >>> >>> The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco crowd and supply >>> the WiFi router and manage it for no additional revenue, and then what to >>> do about the people who still want to put their own Star Wars router behind >>> it. >>> >>> It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought Linksys they are now >>> designing their own Linksys branded routers that are far worse than the >>> Linksys designed E series which certainly had their own problems. I >>> replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a Mikrotik this week and >>> they went from having total dead spots in parts of their house on both 2.4 >>> and 5 GHz to having full bars and great performance everywhere including >>> the basement. Their minds were boggled at this little white box with no >>> external antennas blowing away the big black monster. >>> >>> Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that bad, except their >>> low end WNR2000 has a really high failure rate. I see people starting to >>> trend toward less known brands like Asus and TP-Link. But too many of my >>> customers think the electronics store is "Walmart" and they seem to come >>> back with these Belkin pieces of crap, I particularly hate the model that >>> only has 1 LED on the whole router and you have to interpret the color and >>> number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2 is saying. What's that >>> R2? No link on port 3? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Simon Westlake >>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream >>> >>> I've honestly given up completely on all residential routers, they seem >>> to be slowly converging on a common denominator which is that none of them >>> work properly and only last a few months. I had to replace my router >>> recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the guys I work with just >>> replaced his old Linksys with a Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems >>> went away. >>> >>> I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide managed routers to end >>> users, but I'm slowly changing my mind after realizing how many issues are >>> caused by them. There's also a lot you could do to provide better service >>> to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you put in a DD-WRT or Mikrotik >>> router and setup some shaping on the client side with SFQ. >>> They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix buffering when >>> their Xbox was downloading a game, or their VoIP cutting out when they're >>> watching Daredevil in 4K. >>> >>> On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> > I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart and buy Belkin >>> > routers. I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming. >>> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Westlake >>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>> Email: simon@sonar.software >>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>> --------------------------- >>> Sonar Software Inc >>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software >>> >>> >>> > >
