No, that doesn't work for me. Nor does a Netonix switch on the tower.
On 1/3/2016 12:39 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
You're basically taking about one of the new Ubiquiti EdgePoint
variants. DC and fiber in to router/switch, multiple POE ports out.
On Jan 2, 2016 10:33 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com
<mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
No, I mean a single-port media converter and a PoE injector in a
box that goes on the tower next to the radio. A 2-3 foot cat5 out
to the radio's POE+data port.
Fiber + power coming from the shelter. A DC input block. An SFP or
even a fixed optical interface would be fine. 24-48VDC powers this
box and also sends POE out of the RJ45 port w/ jumpers to select
pair polarity like a GIGE-APC-POE. Kinda parasitic power like
Forrest's SyncPipe Parasitic's.
I'm thinking it would also be pretty cool not only for stuff like
the AF24, but think about 450 or 450i APs too. If it could also
pass sync-over-power, you'd have a very usable product. I know at
one point Forrest was talking about doing a SyncInjector module
that only put out power+sync, no ethernet. The idea was to feed it
into your GIGE-APC-POE cards.
Most of the -48 licensed stuff already has DC + fiber input, so
this wouldn't be for that. I guess it would work for radios like
the Exalt ExtendAir G2 which is copper PoE only, and either
secondary copper GigE or special order T1/E1, but the main port is
802.3at POE.
On 1/2/2016 10:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
No, that is a different project.
So you want to inject POE into an ethernet circuit? Both of my
POE surge suppressors will do that.
*From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2016 9:07 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
Is that the media converter thing you were talking about?
Can you make something like that in reverse? Say I have a hybrid
power+fiber cable up the tower and I want to power up a 20-56VDC
radio. The most common thing I'm thinking of here is an AF24,
because UBNT decided not to put an SFP and a DC input block on
the damn things. For one or two radios, at different heights I
might add, throwing something like a Netonix switch up there
doesn't make sense. Plus they're PTPs that I want to go straight
into physical router interfaces. The media converter should also
pass through the link status in both directions. I have some
cheap-o Startech media converters that don't do that, even though
there's a dip switch for it, but it doesn't work, and it pisses
me off.
On 1/2/2016 9:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is my APC-POE surge suppressor combined with a 48 to 12 VDC
buck converter. Right now it is a kludge. If it powers up the
844E OK under max load while being powered from a netonix switch
I will combine the two circuits onto a board and look for an
appropriate case for it.
*From:* Chris Fabien <mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 02, 2016 7:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
Can you share more ingo on this chuck? The poe adapter.
On Jan 1, 2016 4:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Yep, I am building a POE adapter for the gigacenter too...
Love their flow software.
*From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
*Sent:* Friday, January 01, 2016 2:24 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
Calix can do all that and a whole lot more sterling
On Friday, January 1, 2016, Sterling Jacobson
<sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
I hear you.
My new year's goal is to find a better solution for my
customers.
Unfortunately, at 100-1000Mbps, the pickings are still slim.
I would like to use MikroTik and manage the routing, but
I'm finding that it's still best to get a really nice
$100-$300+ single Wireless AC router and place it in the
center of the house.
What I would really like is a good split solution with
routing in the head/basement, and wireless AC in bridge
mode in one or two places in the house.
But that doesn't seem to exist.
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
I'm seeing a gradual increase in customers leasing a
managed Mikrotik from us, we charge $5/mo for a
RB951G-2HnD which has been very trouble free for us once
we tweak a couple WiFi parameters. I think they look at
the pile of discarded routers in their closet and decide
to let someone else deal with it. Most still fall into
either the "I can buy one at Walmart for $50" camp or
the "I like going to Best Buy and letting the sales guy
talk me into the
$250 router because I like shopping for expensive toys"
camp. And people still look at the humble little white
Mikrotik in its plain brown box and think it can't
possibly match their big black AC1900 router that looks
like a weapon from Star Wars.
The question I guess is whether to join the cable/telco
crowd and supply the WiFi router and manage it for no
additional revenue, and then what to do about the people
who still want to put their own Star Wars router behind it.
It is very disappointing that since Belkin bought
Linksys they are now designing their own Linksys branded
routers that are far worse than the Linksys designed E
series which certainly had their own problems. I
replaced a customer's Belksys AC1900 router with a
Mikrotik this week and they went from having total dead
spots in parts of their house on both 2.4 and 5 GHz to
having full bars and great performance everywhere
including the basement. Their minds were boggled at
this little white box with no external antennas blowing
away the big black monster.
Of the household brands, Netgear doesn't seem all that
bad, except their low end WNR2000 has a really high
failure rate. I see people starting to trend toward
less known brands like Asus and TP-Link. But too many
of my customers think the electronics store is "Walmart"
and they seem to come back with these Belkin pieces of
crap, I particularly hate the model that only has 1 LED
on the whole router and you have to interpret the color
and number of flashes, it's like figuring out what R2D2
is saying. What's that R2? No link on port 3?
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Westlake
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - bad dream
I've honestly given up completely on all residential
routers, they seem to be slowly converging on a common
denominator which is that none of them work properly and
only last a few months. I had to replace my router
recently, and just got a Mikrotik instead. One of the
guys I work with just replaced his old Linksys with a
Mikrotik, and all of his minor problems went away.
I used to think that it was a bad idea to provide
managed routers to end users, but I'm slowly changing my
mind after realizing how many issues are caused by them.
There's also a lot you could do to provide better
service to an end user, hypothetically.. let's say you
put in a DD-WRT or Mikrotik router and setup some
shaping on the client side with SFQ.
They'd probably see a lot less issues with their Netflix
buffering when their Xbox was downloading a game, or
their VoIP cutting out when they're watching Daredevil
in 4K.
On 1/1/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I had a bad dream where all my customers go to Walmart
and buy Belkin
> routers. I tried to wake up but I wasn't dreaming.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
>
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