man who wants to spend so much time climbing?

I used to bring everything short of the kitchen sink up on the roof with
me. I'll be damned if I'm climbing 5 times to accomplish a simple task.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see alot of the decline here being purely stubbornness and attitude. I
> screwed up and told every installer that if they have a better way for them
> to do it, then do it. I also let mopes train mopes.
>
> I showed them things I do that speed things up like preterminating one end
> of the outdoor cable so when climbing up to test signal, once you find the
> mount, you can peak it, then just secure the cable on the way down, its
> only one climb for the most part. or as an alternate, do your testing, get
> it mounted, estimate the cable run and cut it to length in the van, poke
> the two ends through the divider and do the terminations from the warmth of
> the front seat (we do split runs using an SS as a demarc) their complaint
> was they arent good at estimating lengths, no problem, so i got them some
> nice flexible test cables marked with tape every ten feet, then they use
> that for an exact number. eliminates putting boxes back in the van,
> eliminates multiple trips back and forth
>
> what i get when ive audited them is, climb up and test, climb down to get
> a mount, climb up and mount, climb down to get cable, walk box of cable to
> tower or ladder, terminate, climb up and connect, climb down to get
> something climb up. climb down, do the rest of the install, then come back
> and fasten.
>
> It boils down to "im going to do it my way, not your way" like i said to
> them all, i dont care as long as the job gets done right and well. They
> only hear the first part.
>
> The two man crews just doubled the amount of wasted time, not to mention
> stopping to use the bathroom, stopping to smoke before leaving the shop,
> before getting to the customers, after leaving the customers, etc. pooping
> and smoking should be banned in the workplace and im a pooping smoker
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The biggest problem I see with two man crews, is travel time - in a lot
>> of cases getting to the install and back takes as much, or more time than
>> the install itself. Safety seems more to be more of an argument for two man
>> crews than time - our guys often will team up on the more complicated
>> installs for that reason, but a typical install is just one man, and we
>> normally schedule three installs, but if travel time allows, he can easily
>> do four in a day... and a few service calls besides.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Too many bottlenecks for two man crews. When I was the only installer, i
>>> had the option of pulling the partner company guy, but I would have to be
>>> able to cut the time in half or more, never could do that consistently,
>>> could get an hour down to 35 or 40 never a consistent benefit
>>>
>>> We just busted the two man crews to one because it was taking longer
>>> with two than with one, but thats just because of bottom of the barrel
>>> economics
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t have any evidence but I speculate that a two man crew could do
>>>> more than two one man crews.  (If they don’t goof off due to being a two
>>>> man crew).  Lots of things go faster with two.  But I always had one man
>>>> crews.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:42 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In previous job, it was 4 a day plus repair calls with a 2 man crew
>>>> typically …
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *John Woodfield
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 11:57 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with a
>>>> single-man crew?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>
>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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