people milking the clock is who, see we are an hourly on staff shop, you
also get to leave at 4 instead of 5 if you work through lunch.

We have a workable contracted option thats itching to do our installs
because hes growing his service company, and hes right on the edge of
having enough consistent work to hire on a full time guy instead of working
them as contractors.  If either of the two guys leave, im recommending we
go that route to the boss. Our network is simple and installs arent brain
rocketry


On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:

> man who wants to spend so much time climbing?
>
> I used to bring everything short of the kitchen sink up on the roof with
> me. I'll be damned if I'm climbing 5 times to accomplish a simple task.
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I see alot of the decline here being purely stubbornness and attitude. I
>> screwed up and told every installer that if they have a better way for them
>> to do it, then do it. I also let mopes train mopes.
>>
>> I showed them things I do that speed things up like preterminating one
>> end of the outdoor cable so when climbing up to test signal, once you find
>> the mount, you can peak it, then just secure the cable on the way down, its
>> only one climb for the most part. or as an alternate, do your testing, get
>> it mounted, estimate the cable run and cut it to length in the van, poke
>> the two ends through the divider and do the terminations from the warmth of
>> the front seat (we do split runs using an SS as a demarc) their complaint
>> was they arent good at estimating lengths, no problem, so i got them some
>> nice flexible test cables marked with tape every ten feet, then they use
>> that for an exact number. eliminates putting boxes back in the van,
>> eliminates multiple trips back and forth
>>
>> what i get when ive audited them is, climb up and test, climb down to get
>> a mount, climb up and mount, climb down to get cable, walk box of cable to
>> tower or ladder, terminate, climb up and connect, climb down to get
>> something climb up. climb down, do the rest of the install, then come back
>> and fasten.
>>
>> It boils down to "im going to do it my way, not your way" like i said to
>> them all, i dont care as long as the job gets done right and well. They
>> only hear the first part.
>>
>> The two man crews just doubled the amount of wasted time, not to mention
>> stopping to use the bathroom, stopping to smoke before leaving the shop,
>> before getting to the customers, after leaving the customers, etc. pooping
>> and smoking should be banned in the workplace and im a pooping smoker
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The biggest problem I see with two man crews, is travel time - in a lot
>>> of cases getting to the install and back takes as much, or more time than
>>> the install itself. Safety seems more to be more of an argument for two man
>>> crews than time - our guys often will team up on the more complicated
>>> installs for that reason, but a typical install is just one man, and we
>>> normally schedule three installs, but if travel time allows, he can easily
>>> do four in a day... and a few service calls besides.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Too many bottlenecks for two man crews. When I was the only installer,
>>>> i had the option of pulling the partner company guy, but I would have to be
>>>> able to cut the time in half or more, never could do that consistently,
>>>> could get an hour down to 35 or 40 never a consistent benefit
>>>>
>>>> We just busted the two man crews to one because it was taking longer
>>>> with two than with one, but thats just because of bottom of the barrel
>>>> economics
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don’t have any evidence but I speculate that a two man crew could do
>>>>> more than two one man crews.  (If they don’t goof off due to being a two
>>>>> man crew).  Lots of things go faster with two.  But I always had one man
>>>>> crews.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:42 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In previous job, it was 4 a day plus repair calls with a 2 man crew
>>>>> typically …
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *John Woodfield
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2016 11:57 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Installer Performance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How many new installs can your guys get done in a day on average with
>>>>> a single-man crew?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Woodfield, President
>>>>>
>>>>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> 410-870-WiFi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


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